I bought DX:HR several months after release and it still had tons of stuttering and audio lag on weapons fire. Don't know if they fixed it now though.
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Hitman: Absolution - PC performance and optimization thread.
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I bought DX:HR several months after release and it still had tons of stuttering and audio lag on weapons fire. Don't know if they fixed it now though.
Took them about a year to fix the stuttering issue that hundreds of people had with hr as well.
I'm not holding my breath for performance patches.
Wuthering_Heights
Banned
Hey dudes.
Hope this is a good PC port for you all.
Hope this is a good PC port for you all.
Ah, well, I can see that. I always force nVidia's FXAA via the control panel and disable in-game FXAA myself while often combining that with SMAA.
As I play most games from 7ft back on a 50" Kuro, I find that this combo provides a very clean image that has little to no performance impact.
I suppose when I'm sitting up close to my higher resolution monitor (which I hate for gaming) then I use different AA options so I can see SOME of the hate if that's how people are playing their games.
Well, the hitching problem remained for a couple weeks. The weird thing about DXHR is that the partial build leaked months earlier had the same severe loading issues. I would have expected them to address that before releasing the game as it was very clearly a problem. I can't understand how they missed that problem when the fixed came so quickly.
The Janitor
Member
Why does MSAA always kill framerate these days? I used to be able to use MSAA all the time, even when I had a 9800GTX I managed to run games with 4xMSAA just fine.
But nowadays it's like everyone forgot how to implement it properly or something, it's even more demanding than SSAA lol
But nowadays it's like everyone forgot how to implement it properly or something, it's even more demanding than SSAA lol
SniperHunter
Banned
yea msaa nukes the performance in BF3 too...
Well, the issue is that now that we use deferred rendering, this means that instead of sampling one buffer, you're sampling tons of buffers, so it's the equivalent of running MSAA on like five or more render targets instead of one.
Oh well, I'm on my phoneThey were, on the same page
This morning I tried just SMAA by itself and it looked like it did a good job, but my framerate was stuck in the mid 40s. I just turned SSAO to Normal and it shot right to 60. I'd give that a try first.
So, what is the real heavy hitter in this game ? Aside from the MSAA.
I tried to toggle off GI and surprisingly my framerate did not skyrocket at all, same for tessellation. Are those features well optimized ?
The SSAO instead of the HBAO on the other hand seems to greatly increase performance and I fail to notice the qualitative differences between the two.
I tried to toggle off GI and surprisingly my framerate did not skyrocket at all, same for tessellation. Are those features well optimized ?
The SSAO instead of the HBAO on the other hand seems to greatly increase performance and I fail to notice the qualitative differences between the two.
Gareth Bale
Member
Am I missing it, or do those drivers just add an SLI profile for Hitman? I can't see anything about a performance boost...?
The Janitor
Member
I see.. wouldn't SSAA or downsampling be better then? Works for Sleeping Dogs, makes my cards sweat like hell.. but atleast the framerate is fine
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Look back at my last post in the thread for a graphical option comparison of performance hits.
And how do you enable HBAO? I can set SSAO to High, but I don't see any option for HBAO.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
SSAO on high is HBAO.
Siiick. Cheers.
And thank you for your detail results.
GI and tessellation are traditionally performance killers but that does not seem to be the case here.
That said Absolution is quite a demanding game, the game really pushes my GTX670 (highest temps I ever had, 67°C).
Although truth the game has its fair share of visually impressive moments.
It should be underlined that the benchmark is not really representative of the actual performance of the game....In a good way !
I have no idea of what is going on technically speaking but when I played the sequence shown in the benchmark my FPS (I use FRAPS) was definitely higher.
My GTX670 is the power edition, clocked at 1019mhz. I guess that makes a difference.
I ran several benchmarks and the results were definitely not the same, sometimes 71, sometimes 64, I don't know what is causing this. Perhaps my settings were not saved correctly ?
I have only one friend in my gaming circle who is planning on picking up the game, I will ask him to report some numers.
I have no idea of what is going on technically speaking but when I played the sequence shown in the benchmark my FPS (I use FRAPS) was definitely higher.
My GTX670 is the power edition, clocked at 1019mhz. I guess that makes a difference.
I ran several benchmarks and the results were definitely not the same, sometimes 71, sometimes 64, I don't know what is causing this. Perhaps my settings were not saved correctly ?
I have only one friend in my gaming circle who is planning on picking up the game, I will ask him to report some numers.
they even got an achievement for running the benchmark lol
so I did some MSAA / downsampling benches ... min/max framerates are pretty crap/random so don't pay any attention to those
i7 2600K @ 4.8 GHz, GTX 670 SLI @ 1240/7500 synchronized with 310.61 beta drivers
all settings ULTRA, FXAA off
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1080p no MSAA
82 avg
50~60% GPU usage
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1080p + 2x MSAA
56 min
80 avg
~75% GPU usage
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1080p + 4x MSAA
62 min
73 avg
~95% GPU usage
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1080p + 8x MSAA
27 min
56 avg
~98% GPU usage
(~1800 MB VRAM)
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2880*1620 + 8x MSAA
choppy 25 fps
(~2035 MB VRAM usage is probably too much)
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2880*1620 + 2x MSAA
57 avg
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2880*1620 no MSAA
70 avg
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been playing on 1080p 4x MSAA so far, think I'll go try 2880 downsampled 2x MSAA with V-Sync now ...
anyway SLI support seems pretty good (!)
in the benchmark the CPU becomes the limit once you approach the 80 fps mark, judging by the difference in GPU utilization between some of the settings
overall I think the game does look pretty damn good, but I do feel that the fps are pretty low for what you get compared to more efficient games ... this game feels like it is taking the brute-force approach to offer better visuals than the console versions, at the cost of potentially smoother framerates. Luckily framerate has no real impact on gameplay for this type of game
seems like another decent port by Nixxes
edit : just for fun, LOWEST SETTINGS
1080p 8x MSAA : 90 fps
1080p no MSAA : 100 fps
edit2: 1080p 8X MSAA on Ultra settings uses ~1800 MB VRAM here, so EatChildren's 570 (1280 MB?) is probably memory limited at those settings
And rightly so, the SSAO in Max Payne 3 actually look better.
IcyBlueStrawberry
Member
i7 920 @ 4.2 GHz, 7970 Crossfire @ 1000/1500
Ultra, FXAA
Min: 43.4
Max: 102.0
Avg: 58.6
Ultra, 2xMSAA
Min: 43.4
Max: 91.4
Avg: 58.8
Ultra, 4xMSAA
Min: 42.7
Max: 81.7
Avg: 58.8
Ultra, 8xMSAA
Min: 43.4
Max: 70.0
Avg: 56.1
Oddly enough if I disable one card I get better performance without MSAA, but my FPS tanks once I turn it on.
It also seems like I'm very CPU limited. I really should upgrade my CPU and mobo sometime soon.
Ultra, FXAA
Min: 43.4
Max: 102.0
Avg: 58.6
Ultra, 2xMSAA
Min: 43.4
Max: 91.4
Avg: 58.8
Ultra, 4xMSAA
Min: 42.7
Max: 81.7
Avg: 58.8
Ultra, 8xMSAA
Min: 43.4
Max: 70.0
Avg: 56.1
Oddly enough if I disable one card I get better performance without MSAA, but my FPS tanks once I turn it on.
It also seems like I'm very CPU limited. I really should upgrade my CPU and mobo sometime soon.
i5 2500k @ stock 3.3GHz
8GB DDR3 RAM @ 1600MHz
Sapphire 6870 1GB
Seriously. AMD is plastered all over this game, but still the performance is really bad.
Looks like there's a similar issue as in The Witcher 2. Camera movement and animations are stuttering as soon as the framerate goes below 60. Which it does most of the time.
Running CCC 12.11 with the 12.10 CAP.
8GB DDR3 RAM @ 1600MHz
Sapphire 6870 1GB
Seriously. AMD is plastered all over this game, but still the performance is really bad.
Looks like there's a similar issue as in The Witcher 2. Camera movement and animations are stuttering as soon as the framerate goes below 60. Which it does most of the time.
Running CCC 12.11 with the 12.10 CAP.
Cannon Goose
Member
Ultra SMAA robbed me of about 20fps and looked almost identical to the in-game FXAA on my end.
They say a 2.4GHz dual core and Nvidia 8000 series is minimum required. I really don't see how that is possible... Is the FPS limited at 100 or something?
theytookourjobz
Junior Member
Damn. I run the same system. Is it that bad?
The framerate averages between 40-45 running it on ultra without global illumination and ssao on normal @ 1080p. It's the stuttering that's making it unbearable. Just like in The Witcher 2.
EDIT: Ok. Running on high without GI and vsync. Looks and runs amazing now. Never dips below 40fps and theres actually no tearing strangely enough.
This is strange because this game is part of AMD's Gaming Evolved program so in theory it should be highly optimized for AMD cards. Dirt Showndown had a GI option that was barely unplayable on any high-end Geforce cards for instance.
i5 2500K OC@4.5Ghz
16GB DDR3
GTX 670 OC
310.61 driver
2560x1440
FXAA off
All other settings max/ultra
MSAA: 0
Min: 37
Max: 54
Average: 43
MSAA: x2
Min: 27
Max: 44
Average: 31
MSAA: x4
Min: 19
Max: 30
Average: 22
MSAA: x8
Min: 5
Max: 20
Average: 15
I also installed Afterburner 2.3.0 yesterday and it's acting up with Hitman, get a black screen sometimes when I start the game, stealth mode on seems to work most of the time.
edit - Game crashed after about 10 minutes, gonna try the WHQL drivers. (Afterburner was turned off)
edit 2 - Directx error crash (WHQL now), not alone with this problem it seems. I'll fiddle with this game later, need to work soon anyway.
16GB DDR3
GTX 670 OC
310.61 driver
2560x1440
FXAA off
All other settings max/ultra
MSAA: 0
Min: 37
Max: 54
Average: 43
MSAA: x2
Min: 27
Max: 44
Average: 31
MSAA: x4
Min: 19
Max: 30
Average: 22
MSAA: x8
Min: 5
Max: 20
Average: 15
I also installed Afterburner 2.3.0 yesterday and it's acting up with Hitman, get a black screen sometimes when I start the game, stealth mode on seems to work most of the time.
edit - Game crashed after about 10 minutes, gonna try the WHQL drivers. (Afterburner was turned off)
edit 2 - Directx error crash (WHQL now), not alone with this problem it seems. I'll fiddle with this game later, need to work soon anyway.
Glass Rebel
Member
i5 3570K@3.40GHz
8GB RAM
GTX-670 STOCK
1080p
Everything maxed, no FXAA
pre beta driver
MSAA x8
Min: 12
Max: 29
Avg: 24
MSAA x4
Min: 30
Max: 44
Avg: 36
MSAA x2
Min: 39
Max: 64
Avg: 46
MSAA Off
Min: 47
Max: 118 (lol)
Avg: 56
Let's see what the beta drivers do for me.
Edit: drivers did nothing for me. Guess I'm fiddling around some more until I find a sweet spot.
8GB RAM
GTX-670 STOCK
1080p
Everything maxed, no FXAA
pre beta driver
MSAA x8
Min: 12
Max: 29
Avg: 24
MSAA x4
Min: 30
Max: 44
Avg: 36
MSAA x2
Min: 39
Max: 64
Avg: 46
MSAA Off
Min: 47
Max: 118 (lol)
Avg: 56
Let's see what the beta drivers do for me.
Edit: drivers did nothing for me. Guess I'm fiddling around some more until I find a sweet spot.
We have an almost identical setup, glad to know it run reasonably well.
Cannon Goose
Member
SSAO comparison:
(Sorry about the lack of AA, I'm using driver FXAA which doesn't show up in screenshots)
Under the Normal setting it can get really grimy looking, especially indoors. Despite that, I think it still manages to look good in the darker scenes. I had a performance difference of about 10-15 fps switching between Normal and High, so I think I will stick with Normal at this point.
I'm happy with the performance I'm getting after trying out different AA and tuning some settings. I've got everything on High, Tessellation and Global Illumination on, in-game FXAA off and Nvidia Driver FXAA on. I found the driver setting caught more jaggies and there was zero difference in performance between the driver and in-game options.
Edit: Also, I think that benchmark is kinda weird. There is a lot more going on in it effects-wise than you'd normally get just by playing the game. They really jack up the DoF to 11 even though it's generally more subtle during gameplay. I just played through the area in the benchmark and the performance was FAR better than any of the benchmark results I got.
(Sorry about the lack of AA, I'm using driver FXAA which doesn't show up in screenshots)
Normal
High
Normal
High
Under the Normal setting it can get really grimy looking, especially indoors. Despite that, I think it still manages to look good in the darker scenes. I had a performance difference of about 10-15 fps switching between Normal and High, so I think I will stick with Normal at this point.
I'm happy with the performance I'm getting after trying out different AA and tuning some settings. I've got everything on High, Tessellation and Global Illumination on, in-game FXAA off and Nvidia Driver FXAA on. I found the driver setting caught more jaggies and there was zero difference in performance between the driver and in-game options.
Edit: Also, I think that benchmark is kinda weird. There is a lot more going on in it effects-wise than you'd normally get just by playing the game. They really jack up the DoF to 11 even though it's generally more subtle during gameplay. I just played through the area in the benchmark and the performance was FAR better than any of the benchmark results I got.
The HDAO does look better but the performance hit is ludicrous. Even though my GTX670 can take it I think I'm going to go with the traditionnal SSAO.
I mean this kind of effect is so subtle that I would not even tell the difference between the two unless I try to look very closely.
Read something about disabling "desktop composition" by going into the properties of the game executable might help.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Can you turn off AO all together?
Cannon Goose
Member
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Nice, I will probably just roll with that as both HBAO and SSAO look a little too blunt.
That's why you don't use heavy SMAA. On light settings it's amazing. Look at the link I posted.
I'm running everything on Ultra with a GTX465 and It looks fantastic. I turned on Fraps to check the framerate and It does dip into the 20's at time (most of the time runs around 37). The thing is I just don't really notice the frame drop in this game. Maybe it's because it's slow paced, but if I just turn off fraps I don't notice the framerate being offensive in any sort of way. I'm also running at 1920x1200.
Nixxis only handled the UI and controls, apparently the engine work was all done by IO Interactive themselves.
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