Darryl M R
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Stomp out all hate. Especially when it comes from losers that are bigoted because they are unattractive or awkward.
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How South Koreas angry young men formed a powerful new alt-right movement
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Vermillion
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I mean, I'm not quite sure of that these days. In either case, there are more effective ways to stop those few public ones.
Okay, yes, probably.
That's the thing about connecting people, it's not always good people who connect. Narcissists and sociopaths also know there is power in numbers.
lol are you saying it is worse when bigots are unattractive?
I mean, a bigot is a bigot.
Prodigal Son
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don't bother man i've tried.
Peaceful solutions have worked well for black people, so I'm not sure why.
nelsonroyale
Member
Yeah, it paints a rather pathetic picture...
Visualante2
Member
Article raises some interesting points about how unemployment and intergenerational inequality has led to this sort of behaviour.
Monocle
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More or less what I came here to post. The damage that pent-up manbabies have caused in human society is beyond calculation.
Messofanego
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You forgot the /s
"Sexual Frustration", and I think a lot more goes on in a lot of these cases than just that, drives radicalism of all sorts. And it makes sense. When society tells men they need to act a certain way and have certain sorts of relationships with women, then the men who aren't able to achieve this for whatever reason will feel that society isn't working for them. When people feel society isn't working for them they will be much more prone to agitating for radical change in general.
There's a Chinese term for these sorts of people, I think it translates to something like barren twig.
Anyone know if there is a Chinese alt-right equivalent movement? From what I understand, youth unemployment is on the rise in China and there is gender disparity due to the One-Child policy.
freethoughtbubble
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Yeah, let's be clear about this. Being ugly or awkward doesn't turn you into a sexless extremist. It's the off-the-charts entitlement.
I mean, you are surprised?
The internet allows you to connect with people who have similar interests, for some people is finding other comicbook enthusiasts, Kayaking buddies, artists with similar themes, fetishes.
For these people their interests just happens to be bigotry.
I don't think the entitlement is off-the-charts. It's the same amount of "entitlement" that these societies tell all men to have. Which is to say it tells men they have a certain social place relative to women. The key difference is that these men don't have the relationships that they are "supposed" to have.
Historically these sorts of people lacked access to women because of economic, especially in the West, or social hierarchical, especially in places with polygamy, reasons. Increasingly with liberalization and the breakdown of traditional gender roles those who no longer can form the kinds of relationships with women they not only feel like they deserve but that they are supposed to form find themselves in that situation for cultural reasons. They blame cultural change and progressive politics the same way those before blamed economic circumstances and traditional social hierarchies.
Again the issue isn't just sexual, though I have no doubt that's a part, it's related to filling a certain role in society. The perversity of sexism is that it doesn't just tell men they get to have certain relationships with women, it's that it tells them they are wrong and bad if they don't. I have a feeling this negative aspect is the more powerful of the two.
radios shipping overview
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We've got a huge problem when this same phenomenon is happening all over the world. Something in society has failed.
Morrigan Stark
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Awww lol
Messofanego
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The recession is tied hand in hand with the rise of right extremism. Anyone different from you becomes a convenient scapegoat.
Mr. Giggles
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You're right, I'll ask them to sit down to tea and crumpets so they can tell me how they agree with genocide and why it's the best way.
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Herr Schwarz
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Sign me up for a glass bottle of coca cola with cocaine in it
And liberals will be there every step of the way to downplay it and then ultimately collaborate with the fascists.
I am sure Black people would be much safes with guns protecting them from the police too in america. Why not punch a police officer in the face since they're so corrupt?
Punch - Agree on genocide
Wow, I never knew there was NOTHING inbetween those two things. You know who's Korean and puts people into camps? Kim jong un, why didn't someone think of punching him to make him stop being a bad person? It's so easy. Violence solves everything and there's no downsides to it if the other person is a bad.
I take it you have never used Facebook?
The wealthy have stolen everything. Generations globally are faced with fuck all prospects in life.
It's been a slow boil. But this is going to happen more and more. People are just straight unhappy and depressed. Why does any bully do anything? It's not because they're doing great! You know?
Advice to just "get a life" isn't really applicable here. Many folks lives have been taken from them, we'll potential lives. Globalization, super corporations killing economies. You're just not really in a place to be successful as generations previous. All the goals of having a happy and successful life are dwindling down.
I don't support any of these dipshits. But much like terrorists, I try to understand what's going on here. Because this is getting to be the new normal.
The easiest outlet is to punch down. That's what we are seeing. Because the wealthy control the guns and forces. Punching up is suicide. I just wish we could all figure out what the real issue is, and start taking the power back. But they are so good at manipulating the masses to blame your neighbor.
Remember when women and other targets of harassment were yelling and screaming about how dangerous and extreme segments of men had become? And how so many apathetic people were just standing on the sidelines and having no clue about what was going on, so instead they preferred silence and order rather than peace and justice by telling victims to shut up and 'both sides'?
Well, the people who were the targets of terrorism were the canaray in the coalmine and unaffected people didn't want to listen and here we are so many years after.
Valkerionseven
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Did it on her own is the actual story, why this keeps being changed is beyond me, despite it being like... 4 years ago. I know its more interesting the other way though.
loaf of bread
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The sub-reddit for South Korea consists of like 95% foreigners in Korea. Those probably weren't Korean people saying that, reddit isn't really a thing in Korea.
BudokaiMR2
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Ehhhhh.... that's the official story but I would be really really surprised if she wasn't coerced or even forced into it by some asshole manager.
Yeah, it's always funny when people try to frame the Asian country subreddits as a mouthpiece for local voices. Pretty much all of them are for expats and foreigners.
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Morrigan Stark
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lol, like she didn't have any external pressure? FOH
This and lack of economic opportunity (the two are linked I guess) seem to be the biggest drivers towards extremism, even in the middle east.
Randomizer
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The raise of the alt-right in online youth culture is a difficult and interesting sociological and political issue. Most of it appears to borne out of social alienation & ignorance, leading to a warped sense of entitlement, a hatred of others, unwarranted sense of superiority and a victim complex when criticised. There is also the edgeiness factor. It's very easy to troll by saying something disgustingly racist and bigoted for reaction. It's like a perfect storm of problematic issues.
People's first reaction is to obviously attack them and ignore them because they are a bunch of racist, bigoted pieces of shit. But if the core of the issue is not examined more closely & the more they feel a push back, the larger their movement will become. I fear for the future that such a movement is gaining traction across the world. The youth is historically left leaning and thankfully for the majority that is still the case but the alt-right is growing and has no signs that it's going away anytime soon.
People's first reaction is to obviously attack them and ignore them because they are a bunch of racist, bigoted pieces of shit. But if the core of the issue is not examined more closely & the more they feel a push back, the larger their movement will become. I fear for the future that such a movement is gaining traction across the world. The youth is historically left leaning and thankfully for the majority that is still the case but the alt-right is growing and has no signs that it's going away anytime soon.
dont punch yourself too hard
Carpe Carnim
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This isn't a valid set of facts. The shear number of college educated psychopaths from well-off families in groups like ISIS or AQ tells us that economics isn't the driving factor for these fuckers.
Bin Laden came from a family of billionaires. Zawahiri was a medical doctor. Al Baghdadi is college educated as well. Most of these animals were on the upper rungs of their respective nations.
I remember watching a short documentary from Al Jazeera (if I remember correctly) that talked about the gender disparity in SK and it mentioned this movement.
The one moment I can't forget is the guy who led one of the anti-feminist talk groups (he was memorable) because his wife was supporting both of them financially while he wasn't contributing anything at all.
The one moment I can't forget is the guy who led one of the anti-feminist talk groups (he was memorable) because his wife was supporting both of them financially while he wasn't contributing anything at all.
freeofgreed
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I mean it's not like diplomacy has done anything to curve his behavior at all this past decade. Him getting his ass beat probably would be waaay more effective.
What does this mean?
Muppet of a Man
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This is the deal. Damn. Good shit.
I'm mixed. Mom's from Southeast Asia, Dad's blacker than Wesley Snipes. Asian genes won out in the end.
freeofgreed
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Ah I see. Cool.
Ironically, anonymity is quite possibly the biggest facilitator of these groups, which often start as troll/counterculture (literally counter everything politically correct) then turn into actual belief systems. The literal ability to say whatever they want, free of governmental control leads to echo chambers full of dysfunctional people. And then more "casual trolls" have a peek and find themselves right at home, and so on.
This is to say that it's probably a natural consequence of the relative anarchism of the digital era. There were opportunities in the earlier days of the internet to promote positive and productive usage of the internet, but that ship sailed into the abyss when everybody decided it was more fun sharing weird memes, trolling and only engaging in discourse with like-minded folks.
It is too late, and there will be more of these loser groups all over the globe.