The Red Wizard
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Monster Hunter 3 did it, I believe.
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Hyrule Warriors Legends: stereoscopic 3D N3DS-only, amiibo, more new characters, etcc
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Yes, with a companion app, you could transfer your Wii U character on 3DS and vice versa.
Fine by me, I never cared for the 3D effect and not once did it expanded my gaming experience.
Agreed, I am still on the fence on Hyrule Warriors Legends as I already paid for the Wii U and its DLC.
The game needs to offer cross saving and something more for me to buy it.
TheMoon
Member
And both versions were built with that in mind from the get-go.
This clearly was not.
No. Free DLC of the three main new characters. We don't know if/how the rest will be covered.
Draw calls.
The gpu's are the same, and really, the 3d doesnt have too much of an effect on the visuals themselves as the immediate asset resources in the scene, are already processed and there in memory, and going 2d effectively halves the resolution so its not like you can get 2x better texture quality or shaders, to add to the irritation no matter the res of the texture, they effectively come through worse in 2d because of that. You should always have 3d on, even if you dont like 3d, just enough for the full res to activate withoit going 3d, you can literally see the detail of the screen double.
Basically, whats done to make 3d is you just reuse the assets that have already had 90% of the work done, change the angle slightly, and call on the gpu to draw them again. The res is so low, and the gpu has enough memory and power for that res, that it just never really seems all that stressed from 3d... But the cpu...
This is where the problem comes in, draw calls fall on the cpu, going 3d has a bare minimum of 2x the draw calls, with more the higher that 3d slider goes (to get a greater 3d effect the left and right images are made farther apart, which results in a large section that was previously off screen now being on the screen, these new objects need draw calls) and og 3ds cpu was waaaaayyyy to weak to make effective use out of the gpu in that regaurd, that pica could handle way more than the cpu could send.
Really a bone headed move on a system whose main point relies on draw calls from the cpu to work.
One Piece Unlimited World Red has it as well. I think.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I imagine anyone buying a musou game on 3DS has already resigned themselves to an inherently compromised experience.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
It's perfect for a person like me. I never had an opportunity to buy the Wii U version, and I don't feel like paying $59.99 for the game + all of the DLC.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
How can I pass up playing Ganondorf on the go and not that mockery Sakurai has on Smash?
ultracal31
You don't get to bring friends.
Outside of Groose who else can they add? Skull kid? Malon?
Din and Nayru from the Oracle of Seasons and Ages perhaps?
TheMoon
Member
C.Olimar788
Member
The longer we go without confirmation of cross-save the more I think it is totally not happening. Which means I am totally not buying this version - no way am I gonna go through the grindfest that was Adventure Mode again from the very beginning on the 3DS, not even for Wind Waker characters.
I hope we don't have to wait too long before the Legends-exclusive content comes to the Wii U version separately.
I hope we don't have to wait too long before the Legends-exclusive content comes to the Wii U version separately.
Tertullian
Member
I am still confused about this game. Tried looking it up, but am still confused. What is its exact relationship with the Wii U game?It it a port with all DLC included plus new content? Or actually a different game?
Dimitri LH
Member
Got scared for a moment having read "exclusive for N3DS only"
I cant upgrade yet, broketober wont let me.... >_>
I cant upgrade yet, broketober wont let me.... >_>
Same game, with all content...and new one.
See it as Hyrule Warriors: Game of the Year Edition.
buddha0991
Member
people forget there were already good warriors games on 3ds that worked
Choppasmith
Member
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Yes more Sages would be great. And having more Gerudo representation would be a plus.
Since there aren't any in HW period.
Because Zelda was mean
Considering that MH3U came out over a year before on the 3DS, I'm not sure that qualifies as built with that in mind. In fact, needing an app to get anything off and on the 3DS version suggests the opposite.
I don't think the dream is dead for cross-save on this game yet (and if anyone has a lot of experience with that, it's K-T), but I feel like that they would have said it's cross-save by now.
Velcro Fly
Member
I enjoy the game but hated sitting in front of a TV for hours on end playing it
3DS is the perfect solution.
3DS is the perfect solution.
Yeah, I kind of want to get it because don't have much opportunity to play console games anyway. I've played the first stage of the Wii U version when I got it and never touched it again. Although I still find it kind of hard to justify since I have the Wii U copy and expect it to perform a lot better.
The 3DS version also has some of the touchscreen features from Chronicles if I'm not mistaken, which is really cool. They should have used the Gamepad like that from the start.
NeonZ
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Famitsu had labeled some story cutscenes as Wii U screenshots and they did seem to use Wii U assets. However, it seems like they went ahead of themselves there, and that hasn't been officially announced. The final scene in the initial reveal trailer, showing Tetra getting an Ocarina from a chest, also seemed to be from the Wii U though.
people forget there were already good warriors games on 3ds that worked
Chronicles had decent mission design, but very few grunt enemies on the field for a Musou game. Now, Chronicles 3 already managed to fix the whole "lack of enemies for a Musou game" issue. There are less than in the modern console titles, but the fields are still quite busy. It also managed to keep all the extra speed added by Samurai Warriors 4 compared to previous Samurai Warriors games.
Sammy Samusu
Member
Will sell my DLC code for
$40.
TheMoon
Member
You're confused. MH3U did not come out a year before on 3DS.
TheMoon
Member
You do know that the Wii U version has Off-TV play, right? Your complaint makes no sense.
No, that was still MH3U. MH3 has always been a Wii-only game.
Monster Hunter 3 is still Wii exclusive.
TheMoon
Member
Right, now I confused myself
(was thinking of MH4's release history)Still doesn't change the fact that MH3U was built with save-transfer in mind.
Right, now I confused myself
Still doesn't change the fact that MH3U was built with save-transfer in mind.
The Wii U version, yes. I seriously doubt that was ever the case for the 3DS version, which is why an app was needed.
I have zero interest in this on 3ds, but I'd love to see a cheap wii U dlc of the characters.
OverBlood 3
Banned
So if you have the older 3DS there's no 3D? That's odd.
Right, now I confused myself
Still doesn't change the fact that MH3U was built with save-transfer in mind.
No, it wasnt.
The App simply converts a 3ds save file into a wii u save file.
The game was patched for the handshake. If it was designed for it, it wouldnt have had a seperate transfer app, and it would have been much less crappy.
TheMoon
Member
Oh fucking what. Why not tell me that I got the years totally mixed up. Just had to triple check. What a complete brain fart. Ignore everything.
Why is it odd. It's completely reasonable. 3D requires rendering everything twice. That's a lot of extra work.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
I guess. Though one'd think draw calls should not be much of an issue on a thin-HAL console. Also, from some PICA papers that used to circulate, didn't that GPU support instancing?
The game was probably designed to target the New 3DS, with regular 3DS being an afterthought.
I wouldn't be shocked to see it be another game that dumps the OS while it's running on a regular 3DS, a la Smash and MH4U.
OverBlood 3
Banned
It's odd because I haven't heard of a game doing that so far?