Abstrusity
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You were warned.
The latest update has caused my mouse to sporadically stop working. It's... SLIGHTLY annoying. Argh.
Well that makes sense, my logitech stopped working too. Made me go out and buy a new mouse. But I used it recently on another computer it worked just fine, made me think the USB ports on the first computer were playing up
Ok, I just need to vent. I was a long supporter of Microsoft products, but Windows 10 is one of the worst OS I ever work with.
So today I need to do a critical job on my notebook that would take 45 minutes. So I turned it on, started the ONLINE program and so... After 10 minutes a message pop saying the Windows need to restart to apply updates, giving me an option to restart now or delay it for 15 minutes "to save my work". Chose the delay imagining that I could delay it again, but noooo after 15 minutes, 25 after starting my test, another message pops saying rebooting. And it already passed another 15 minutes and the thing still "rebooting".
Fuck MS. Don't you know that some things cannot be saved/paused?
My PC, too. Boot up. Can't boot up. Boot up. Can't boot up.
Fortunately, I was able to reinstall Windows.
Unfortunately, it removed all my files. 😱😱😱🤕
Fucking Windows 10.
Now I can't disable Cortana or web searching when using the start menu. Like, what the fuck?
It astounds you that after previous versions of Windows allowed you to keep postponing updates while you were finishing work, people expect to be able to postpone an update while they're finishing work in this version?Never had any problems with windows 10 home. It kinda astounds me that people struggle with basic tasks like delaying updates.
Don't you think it's possible that there are problems which affect some users of Windows 10, but not all? Maybe it's worth considering some of the people reporting problems actually have problems and not just mass-paint them all as "dumb". :/I've never been forced to restart, ever. I think people are just too dumb tbh.
The Windows 10 Update bricking is a huge problem though. I've had to clean install a lot of computers with it.
My PC, too. Boot up. Can't boot up. Boot up. Can't boot up.
Fortunately, I was able to reinstall Windows.
Unfortunately, it removed all my files. 😱😱😱🤕
Fucking Windows 10.
Now I can't disable Cortana or web searching when using the start menu. Like, what the fuck?
Were you not able to postpone it a second time? I've never encountered an issue with updates forcing me to restart while I was using my PC.
Windows 10 is my favorite Windows OS.
This sort of thing is exactly what I was talking about when the above poster assumed people are just "too dumb". I've seen this behavior mentioned often enough that it's hard to believe everyone is just incompetent or something.For the last two big Windows updates I've told it to update overnight at like 3am while the computer isn't in use, and both times it started the update around 8pm while I was playing a multiplayer game. 25 minutes later I can log back into Discord and apologize to my group for wasting half an hour of their time.
The reason Windows 10 is very forceful with updates are all of the "tech illiterate" people who refuse to install updates and do maintenance from time to time on their computer.
Never had any problems with windows 10 home. It kinda astounds me that people struggle with basic tasks like delaying updates.
That would make sense if it forced updates after a certain amount of time, but it just rams every single update through on my PC no matter what I'm trying to do. I've never had a PC that spends more time completely unresponsive while it maintains itself.
NO. I do not struggle with basic tasks like delaying updates. Windows 10 struggles with basic tasks like delaying updates.
anytime i get notified of an update is when i click on the power button to shut down for the day and instead of just the regular shut down/sleep/restart, it says update and then shut down/ update and then restart/ something else. i have NEVER been forced to restart. dunno what im doing.
The other problem is that I've seen multiple people like this poster:It updates and then tries to updated outside of your "active hours", a 8 hour block of time you can set in settings (I think the default is 8 AM to 5 PM).
Problem is a lot of computers are used for more than 8 hours in a day, so it's really annoying you can't set it to like 12 hours a day to make sure it only ever updates overnight.
For whatever reason, the active hours appear to be ignored sometimes for some people and/or some updates. Assuming at least some people aren't lying or confused.For the last two big Windows updates I've told it to update overnight at like 3am while the computer isn't in use, and both times it started the update around 8pm while I was playing a multiplayer game. 25 minutes later I can log back into Discord and apologize to my group for wasting half an hour of their time.
anytime i get notified of an update is when i click on the power button to shut down for the day and instead of just the regular shut down/sleep/restart, it says update and then shut down/ update and then restart/ something else. i have NEVER been forced to restart. dunno what im doing.
It updates and then tries to updated outside of your "active hours", a 8 hour block of time you can set in settings (I think the default is 8 AM to 5 PM).
Problem is a lot of computers are used for more than 8 hours in a day, so it's really annoying you can't set it to like 12 hours a day to make sure it only ever updates overnight.
Edit: I just checked and apparently they now let you set active hours for up to 18 hours in a day, but this is a Preview build and maybe that hasn't come to the Stable release yet.
Outside of that I've never had it actually restart while I'm doing work without telling me first.
Though, now reading this post, and re-reading the other post, it makes me wonder if there's some user error involved here. You do realize you can check for updates before starting a movie, right? And if an update is queued, you can shut down instead of going to sleep to let it install when you're done using your computer for the day?
Same. Maybe a lot of people in this thread use laptops and just close the lid and never shut down their computers? Or use desktops but just lock the screen and turn off the monitor instead of putting the PC to sleep?
"I'm in the mood to watch a movie. I'll just check for updates before starting the movie, and if an update is queued, I can shut down instead of going to sleep to let it install when I'm done using my computer for the day."
Isn't this a step backwards though? Back in the Windows 95/98 days, sure rebooting occasionally would make things start working more smoothly again.
But with Windows 7 (and 8?) you could literally get weeks of uptime with typically zero issues. Has that changed just because updates are more frequent now?
Isn't this a step backwards though? Back in the Windows 95/98 days, sure rebooting occasionally would make things start working more smoothly again.Not attempting to leave your computer on for weeks at a time.
It's the fact that it's always at 33% complete that makes me laugh.
Look, it doesn't matter how you slice it, forced restarts* are always user-unfriendly.
*Yes, I realize you've got to balance this against the vast majority of users who can't keep their machines patched. However, the fact that you need to restart at all is a design choice. Similarly, the fact that there's no "guided" restart that walks users through open programs and directs/allows them to save their work is poor design.
Even Ubuntu (the OS you mentioned in a previous post) requires restarts to fully update. It just doesn't surface that because it expects you to know to update from time to time, at least when you're using apt-get to update.
And the "guided" restart betrays your lack of awareness of how software programming works--how can Microsoft portend what programs need work to be saved and which don't? How can they detect where the program has the UI elements for saving work?
Not attempting to leave your computer on for weeks at a time.