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Ico/Shadow of the Colossus collection listing on Walmart.com
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overthehill99
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Oddly enough, the Sly Collection is getting a few extras. Move based mini-games.hey_it's_that_dog said:
Lion Heart
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Johnas said:
Well, usually in the gaming industry. long development cycles means there was issues along the way, be it technical, or design wise, so I would take that into consideration before judging a game based on how long it took to make. Thats not always the case (starcraft, GT) but I would say most of the time it is.
Lion Heart
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Cels said:
I would guess conceptual design started sometime in 06
Yoboman
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I believe they take so long because Ueda's teams are small (but talented), and he likes to have a hands-on role in EVERYTHING.Lion Heart said:
This game is like an indy title with a massive budget
Lion Heart said:I would guess conceptual design started sometime in 06
Job advertisements appeared early 07, so you are probably on the money. I know Ueda said he didn't know what the next game would be for a long time, so it didn't start straight after SotC
Yoboman
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The Last Guardian was always going to take at least four years
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=194535
This was in 2008, we all assumed they'd started years before but they could have started as late as 2007 (making 2011 just right).
They obviously have a lot of leeway, and I would guess a fair budget considering how good the game looks. I don't know how Ueda does it, I can only assume he is a very enigmatic man with a lot of respect in SCE to be able to get budgets and freedom to do what he wants.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=194535
This was in 2008, we all assumed they'd started years before but they could have started as late as 2007 (making 2011 just right).
They obviously have a lot of leeway, and I would guess a fair budget considering how good the game looks. I don't know how Ueda does it, I can only assume he is a very enigmatic man with a lot of respect in SCE to be able to get budgets and freedom to do what he wants.
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Blader5489 said:
So help me if they somehow put Ico's abomination of a cover art on this box, I will shit a brick.
Lord Error
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It probably won't be. It will be locked 30, like the original game should have been, or like Ico was.Yoboman said:
What speciffically? I remember some people complained about the horse controls, but it looked like none of them realized how semi automatic the horse movement really is (just like a real horse really) - horse would steer on his own around the windy roads for example, just as real horse wouldn't just go straight to his death below. There was no need to micromanage it there or in similar such tighter spaces.StuBurns said:
If you mean the wanderer's controls, yes, they were definitely a step down in tightness compared to Ico, where controls were just wonderfully realized. The things, controls in SotC were that way because of the fact that everything in the game was physics based. There were no differences with how his running was handled on flat surfaces compared to dynamically undulated surfaces. You can probably see why this would pose a problem as manual finetuning of controls just wouldn't work with the gameplay concept of the game. That's why I think they won't be able to change it for these remakes either. They'd need an entirely new and more precise engine to really change it. However, the other factor that attributed to control feeling worse than in Ico was the framerate. The control definitely feels better when you run the game at a steady 30FPS+ in an emulator.
Ico and GoW both use fixed point camera and it works perfectly fine, better than it otherwise would given the concepts of both games. SotC really had just one control inconsistency compared to most games, and it inherited that from Ico - triangle was used for jumping instead of X. Really no big deal, they were probably thinking that /\ is on top and points up, so it should mean jump.StuBurns said:
MassiveAttack
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SHOTEH FOCK OP said:
Never going to happen.
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MassiveAttack said:
Never? The God of War collection boxart is the laziest thing I've ever seen.
I don't have a link off hand, it was a video interview around the time of E3. But I believe Ueda has even addressed it citing issues getting things up and running on the PS3, which might be easier to google.Yoboman said:
EDIT: To be clear, they didn't say it had taken more than four years already, they said it wouldn't make it out in the fourth year.
zerodayPopbot
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Hopefully Ueda takes like ten minutes and sketches a unique cover for the collection.
Lord Error
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Yeah, you're right I remember that... It happened so rarely though that it seemed like a bug, kinda like in MGS4.Yoboman said:
overthehill99
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So, the "requirements" of these Collections seem to be:
60 FPS
High Definition
Trophies
$40
Is this correct?
60 FPS
High Definition
Trophies
$40
Is this correct?
babyghost853
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overthehill99
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Yeah, you're right. Basically what I'm asking is, does the Sly Collection hold true to all these things?Shurs said:
Lord Error
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Also, to whoever mentioned hoping that they will use MLAA, they probably will, but even if they don't, both games look unbelievably jaggy-free even with just 2xAA on an emulator.
But you know what's going to really suck?
We are going to get these remakes on PS3, which is great as PS2 can't do them justice anymore, if it ever could - but then the PS4 is going to come out and I can already see it, none of the PS3 releases are going to work on it. Chances of them using some supercharged Cell variation in PS4 are pretty slim, and chances of whatever off-the-shelf CPU they chose of emulating Cell in software are probably even slimmer. If there's one reason I hope PS4 comes as late as possible, it's that by that time the Intel/AMDs CPUs might be fast enough to emulate Cell.
But you know what's going to really suck?
We are going to get these remakes on PS3, which is great as PS2 can't do them justice anymore, if it ever could - but then the PS4 is going to come out and I can already see it, none of the PS3 releases are going to work on it. Chances of them using some supercharged Cell variation in PS4 are pretty slim, and chances of whatever off-the-shelf CPU they chose of emulating Cell in software are probably even slimmer. If there's one reason I hope PS4 comes as late as possible, it's that by that time the Intel/AMDs CPUs might be fast enough to emulate Cell.
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fingers crossed for 30FPS locked. 60, if possible, I guess.
Will buy these in a heartbeat, I never did play Ico, and I unfortunately played SOTC mid-way through this gen, meaning it looked a tad dated and the performance was more than a little disappointing. Really wonderful game, that aside, though.
I need to buy the Sly collection, too. Is that out?
Will buy these in a heartbeat, I never did play Ico, and I unfortunately played SOTC mid-way through this gen, meaning it looked a tad dated and the performance was more than a little disappointing. Really wonderful game, that aside, though.
I need to buy the Sly collection, too. Is that out?
good point, hadn't thought of this.Lord Error said:
opticalmace
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Assuming this is real (April 1st?), I'll gladly pick this up. Never played either game.
overthehill99
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The frame-rate in SotC never really bothered me when I played it last year. Yes it was apparent, but for some reason I was never bothered by it.
But if they can get this game running at 60FPS. I would die.
But if they can get this game running at 60FPS. I would die.
Infinite Justice
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opticalmace said:
Same here though i botched an opportunity to get ICO and i never saw it again.
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space in the home for a million consoles, especially as someone who generally ends up buying all the current-gen hardware, is kind of limited. BC is a HUGE selling point, to me.jett said:
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it's dead
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this thread has actually made me think about which console I'm likely to adopt first next gen. after the great experience I've had with the PS3 this gen and Sony's cooperation with companies like Valve, it's looking like I'm going to get the PS4 first this time.
Of course, pricing and software will be the ultimate decider.
Of course, pricing and software will be the ultimate decider.
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Rez said:
wow
Lion Heart said:
Yeah, I was being snarky. Games can definitely stay in the oven too long and get overdone as well, although I don't see that being the case here. I trust Ueda to provide a very worthy successor to Ico and SotC, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting tired of waiting for it at this point.