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IGN says stuff about PS4/MS sales. Also, Kinect is added value. Real money, yo.
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Captain Tuttle
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Actually the article isn't bad, that's what I get for trusting the OP and not reading the source thoroughly.
I think for the average consumer, none of those are reasons to buy an xbone. Even on neogaf, I don't think too many people care about those games.
Let's face it, the real reason people buy a next gen console is for games like call of duty and battlefield.
learn to read bro
You realize that the exact same could be said for PS4 right?
Final Fantasy XIV, Killzone:SF, Infamous: SS, Resogun, Warframe are all pretty good to excellent reasons to buy the PS4 too.
Is this a joke post? Honestly can't tell, Colin is a Playstation content editor at IGN.
Did you even read the article?
I can't give you an exact definition, of course, but it is probably a combination of a few things: an exclusive, AAA, critically lauded title that helps raise the profile of the entire system. I mean you wouldn't have trouble looking back at the PS3 and recommending must-have titles and if you did that independently of other posters, I'm sure final lists would look similar. With the PS4, for the moment, everything is a bit default.
hey_it's_that_dog
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The PS4 camera isn't popular because of "choice," it's popular because Sony stumbled up on a use for it that really caught on. Kinect is still nearly worthless.
SwiftDeath
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It is rarely a good idea to even sarcastically pose the OP in such a way to indicate one possible narrative when in fact that is not the case as many gaffers will not delve deep enough into the content presented to realize
And then threads like this happen
I assumed so, thanks for the clarification
.Just seems weird that he states it as a fact you know? Instead of saying it like it is, a rumor. I honestly thought with the way he stated it that they did previously have it bundled in.
i don't believe that's the main reason for its success, it certainly attributed to it, but I feel that the bad PR surrounding MS last year along with the price are the main reasons why the PS4 is doing well.
Spark and QB seem like they might be decent prospects but it would be like expecting little big planet and heavy rain to be major system sellers.
Insomniac threw a lot of their good will off a cliff recently with Fuse which makes Sunset Overdrive seem risky to purchase by itself much less with a $500 console attached to it.
I can't even imagine the state someone would be in that would have a Halo 2 remake get them to purchase a console...
And much cheaper (well before all these current discounts ongoing in the UK)
1.21Gigawatts
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The article is actually really good.
Selective quoting by OP.
Did you even read the article? They neither said nor implied that.
Selective quoting by OP.
Did you even read the article? They neither said nor implied that.
TheLostBigBoss
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You do know who wrote this, right?
He's a Sony editor, he does a weekly podcast called Podcast Beyond, a podcast about Sony.
Maybe you should do a little research before saying silly things.
If the XBO has "must have" games, why haven't I bought it yet? "Must have" signifies that I can't live without it.
Fact is IGN is stating as fact that games like Titanfall are "must have". What qualifies that statement? That they personally like that game? Fact for me is that I played Crackdown and inFamous more last gen than I played CoD and Battlefield so for me, Titanfall isn't "must have".
Both consoles are breaking records though, even with the lack of a lot of "must-have" titles.
Looks like I've just been buying games cuz I have nothing better to do. What is their definition of must-have? Why is it crazy and confusing when it's been just 6 months? I hate it when people make such subjective remarks like fact that applies to everyone.
One can argue that gaming itself is not a must-have. So why are so many people gaming? "Crazy and confusing" eh?
Otherwise the article isn't too bad. Quite well written, actually.
One can argue that gaming itself is not a must-have. So why are so many people gaming? "Crazy and confusing" eh?
Otherwise the article isn't too bad. Quite well written, actually.
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I love my PS4 and play it regularly, but it's only "must have" exclusive so far is Resogun, imo. Most of the games I've bought on it have been multiplatform games and games that have were released on PC months ago. I've been very happy with the offerings, but they're by no means "must have".
Well, I can see his point in a larger sense. It is crazy that BOTH systems have sold this well, given that neither has any must have games. Or rather, it's crazy they sold this well -- so quickly, given the circumstances. As for why it's selling more than Xbox One, that's not that crazy at all. It's $100 cheaper, and has better specs/hardware. For many, that's a no brainer. So I don't really see this as any kind of revelation, or phenomena that can't be explained.
The thing is, the majority of games bought in a given year by consumers will be multiplats. So it makes sense to get a "new console" that is at the better price + has better performance (although I think the average consumer cares more about the former point, not the latter). Yeah, this article isn't really bad. But IMO it's not really saying anything new or profound.
The thing is, the majority of games bought in a given year by consumers will be multiplats. So it makes sense to get a "new console" that is at the better price + has better performance (although I think the average consumer cares more about the former point, not the latter). Yeah, this article isn't really bad. But IMO it's not really saying anything new or profound.
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Superior versions of multiplatform games is the reason to get the PS4 so far, not exclusives.
BlazingDarkness
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There's a whole lot of bold statements in this article.
I don't think either platform has a must-have game. But they could.
I disagree. The faulty analogy with the PS3 situation really lets it down.
The PS3 was not price competitive with the 360 until 2009 when they introduced the Slim.
The Xbone is already price competitive with the PS4 thanks to price cuts and free games and it hasn't helped, even in America.
just went through the list and honestly not spotting any system seller exclusives except The Order. everything else you can get on other systems
iceatcs
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Same, also xbox one too. Pretty much nothing there yet for this moment.
Yeah, but overall I think it is a very generous piece to the based CernyStation 4.
I don't have an issue with saying PS4 is lacking must-haves, I think it is funny they single PS4 out for the lack of must-haves.
I don't think either console have that many games that I am interested in, hence I haven't bought either yet.
SwiftDeath
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Must-have games involve puppies. Cute adorable puppies.
The NDS entertainment system with all versions of Nintendogs is the greatest system to grace this planet. Subjectivity 0, Cute Puppies 1
hey_it's_that_dog
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Yes, it's true that the X1 is short on must-haves as well. IGN dude's point is that there isn't a difference in the number of must-haves between consoles that would explain the huge difference in demand/sales.
He said it in a way that was sure to prompt "X1 too!" responses (it was my very first thought as well) but it makes sense if you think about it in terms of trying to figure out what is driving the disparity in sales.
Hyperactivity
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Note that the athor was Colin Moriarty
Part of their Playstation team, and the guy who wrote the "Vita is Set to Succeed" article
I highly doubt its the Microsoft money train
Nice selective quoting OP
DryvBy
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I'm not critical of the entire article. Just those two points I posted. The implication that Microsoft will somehow do better in Japan = ???. At least, that's how I take it when they're bringing it up that Microsoft has a chance in Japan because the PS4 isn't sold out there. The statement that Kinect is added value almost feels like a written advert.
After that portion, I liked the entire article and agreed. See, I only pin-pointed certain segments that were just stupid. It's like when you read the Titanfall preview on IGN. It's not an overall horrible preview. But there's key stupid statements made that are just ... bad.
People dont buy a platform for just one game. Ps4 is selling well because sony knock it out the park with the hardware.
Ps4 has a tons of game released and announced. More than any other platform. Ps+ is making each month more and more ps3/vita owners jump into next gen. Since they already has 5 ps4 games for free.
Ms was banking on must-have games like titanfall to keep up but it not helping.
Ps4 has a tons of game released and announced. More than any other platform. Ps+ is making each month more and more ps3/vita owners jump into next gen. Since they already has 5 ps4 games for free.
Ms was banking on must-have games like titanfall to keep up but it not helping.
condompickle
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I'm surprised the ps4 isn't selling well in japan.
VanCityGamer
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Right, but he listed a number of reasons. And the system's power is one that certainly warrants a paragraph in the article. Better looking multi-plats is important to the hardcore audience, especially in the context of the price disparity.
For sure, though he mentioned that. He didn't mention the system's power advantage, which I find a bit strange because it's one of the core differentiators of the PS4.
Yeah IGN has felt very on MS' s side most of the time (or simply any game that has a lot of hype behind it to the point where it gets embarrassing to read at times), so don't really take what they so seriously. Haven't for a while honestly.
That real money value makes no sense to me either, ha ha, doesn't the PS4s better hardware have really money value whatever that means.
Sorta hating the term must have too, cause it's really subjective. I don't think either console has a must have yet to me, there are games I'd get if I got either console, but that's simply because I have to get something for it of course. I think the better word for it to me is a system seller, but many games can be system sellers for many different people. Titanfall is probably the closest the X1 has to a system seller, but it's not to me personally and I imagine others. For PS4, probably infamous is closest, but I think it's more the 3rd party games actually like AC4 or MGSV GZ.
That real money value makes no sense to me either, ha ha, doesn't the PS4s better hardware have really money value whatever that means.
Sorta hating the term must have too, cause it's really subjective. I don't think either console has a must have yet to me, there are games I'd get if I got either console, but that's simply because I have to get something for it of course. I think the better word for it to me is a system seller, but many games can be system sellers for many different people. Titanfall is probably the closest the X1 has to a system seller, but it's not to me personally and I imagine others. For PS4, probably infamous is closest, but I think it's more the 3rd party games actually like AC4 or MGSV GZ.
SwiftDeath
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But nowhere did the author indicate belief the XB1 would sell better?
He said PS4 is selling poorly in Japan and that the XB1 has yet to release there. Both true statements
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Kinect sucks and it always has. The sooner they scrap it the better.
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The hardcore, even journalists, are focusing so much on "must haves" in the sense of epic exclusive games - the math for PS4 seems pretty damned simple. It's a freakin' hundred bucks cheaper, and it has the next-gen editions of all the games the masses want. In other words, it has games.
So does the Xbox One, but the perception caused by the bundling of Kinect ("Microsoft is ripping you off by forcing an expensive accessory on you") and the reality of the price appears to be a killer combo.
So does the Xbox One, but the perception caused by the bundling of Kinect ("Microsoft is ripping you off by forcing an expensive accessory on you") and the reality of the price appears to be a killer combo.
I can. The original Halo 2 multiplayer is one of the most revered experiences in console gaming. The servers for Xbox are dead, rendering the online component on console useless. If they can bring back that multiplayer, with all the original glitches, gameplay, and everything else *nailed*, you can bet a lot that Halo 2 will sell systems.
Big if, but one that a lot of people on GAF seem to agree on.
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