adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Dada is saying they calibrated their entire release schedule around GTA VI. I just find that hard to believe, especially considering VI doesn't even have a release date yet.
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[IGN] Where Are All the PS5 Games?
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Dada is saying they calibrated their entire release schedule around GTA VI. I just find that hard to believe, especially considering VI doesn't even have a release date yet.
Ass of Can Whooping
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You called?
Mr Moose
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What would you say Flight Sim is? a 2nd party game? Asobo isn't owned by MicroSoft but they own the IP and publish the game.
It's a 1st party game.
Punished Miku
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I think if it's an existing IP that was 1st party previously it's a little more of a grey area. I'd just call it 2nd party. It's not a MS owned studio making it.
Mr Moose
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The studio involved might be classed as 2nd party but the game would be 1st party.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
If GTA 6 is releasing this fall then I can definitely see shuffling their release schedule for that. That's what I thinkChiefDada is saying. Doesn't matter that there is no release date. They could announce that at the showcase.
I think you mean next fall? GTA 6 isn't releasing this year.
Topher
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I'm saying whenever it is releasing, Sony is going to give it a lot of room.
MonkeyClaw36
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Hi Phil!
rhodesianshepard
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There are enough AAA studios in the industry to sustain a regular output, even with the long development time. And big AAA games are seeing much better margins than smaller AAA or AA games. The latter are the ones that not being made, as you can see by the industry closing down smaller AAA studios
Punished Miku
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I don't agree. 2nd party means the publisher owns it and it's exclusive. 2nd party game. Everyone for decades knows 1st party is about owned studios and the games they make. Not changing my mind, ever.
Mr Moose
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Nah, 150 I think, first hour.
Ass of Can Whooping
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That was my original point, they've already told people not to expect any big franchise games this year, and if that is extended to next year to an undetermined quarter when GTA VI comes out, it just sounds bizarre that Sony is willing to not have any big first party games for a nearly 2 year window.
That's an even worse first party output than Xbox circa 2022.
Mr Moose
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They said about existing large franchises. And they wouldn't release a game at the same time as GTAVI, it doesn't mean they won't release any games at all until after that.
ChiefDada
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Jesus Christ, Adam:
Disagree, proportionally more people are likely going to opt in for latest and greatest to play GTA VI, compared to last gen Pro console when there wasn't such a massive title to compel them.
DaGwaphics
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With development times the way they are, Sony hasn't been able to get as many games out as they previously did. It isn't like they haven't had dry spells before anyway. Just not quite to the extent that MS did when they had 4 or 5 studios.
ChiefDada
I think you way overestimate how many buyers value the difference between the base PS5 and whatever a Pro would entail. Or even the difference between the base PS5 and a 4090. There is a small percentage of users that care about that difference in the grand scheme of things. The Pro will be a great option for the console buyers that do care, like the high-end GPUs are on the PC side but that's about it. Also, PS4 Pro had a full year on the market without the 1X and it didn't exactly light the world on fire.
ChiefDada
I think you way overestimate how many buyers value the difference between the base PS5 and whatever a Pro would entail. Or even the difference between the base PS5 and a 4090. There is a small percentage of users that care about that difference in the grand scheme of things. The Pro will be a great option for the console buyers that do care, like the high-end GPUs are on the PC side but that's about it. Also, PS4 Pro had a full year on the market without the 1X and it didn't exactly light the world on fire.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Sure, Astrobot is probably coming later this year, but it's not something I would call a tent-pole release.
What does 'competition with Xbox One X' have to do here when Pro wasn't even the better selling PlayStation model.
Do you really think GTA VI will cause more people to run out and get a PS5 Pro versus a normal PS5 (if they don't already have one) ?
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Buggy Loop
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Xbox fanboys are the last ones to rag on a first party lineup
Not on xbox, PC but
I'm hyped and likely to buy all of Avowed, Clockwork revolution, Indiana Jones, Fable, MS flight sim 2024, Hellblade II.
Are they huge blockbusters ala Spider-man 2? No. Are they more interesting to me than a PC port of Ragnarok or Spider-man 2? Fuck yes.
Sony would have to bring to PC the likes of Gravity rush, Ico/Shadow of the collosus/Last guardian, Demon souls, Bloodborne hype me up (immensely in case of Bloodborne). I much prefer their game focused japanese titles than the cinematic TRUHPLE AAAYY. I have almost all the first iterations of those games on PC, God of war, uncharted 4, Days gone, Spider-man, TLoU, Horizon zero dawn. Almost all of those on first iteration with the feedback of the sequels (when applicable) that I might not buy the sequels when they get to PC. Especially the ones with Sweet baby inc sprinkled on them.
As for console sales I'm sure Sony will stomp Xbox, it's already written in stone this gen, but I don't play sales numbers. Just like I don't listen to Taylor Swift because it is #1 in charts. I'm finding that for my tastes (very important before you reply), I'm not compatible with sony games as much as I used to (PSX + PS2 was more like it)
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Mr Moose
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And Concord apparently, whatever the fuck that is.Sure, Astrobot is probably coming later this year, but it's not something I would call a tent-pole release.
What does 'competition with Xbox One X' have to do here when Pro wasn't even the better selling PlayStation model.
Ass of Can Whooping
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Topher
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Wolverine could be an FY Q1 2025 release for all we know. I agree that it would be bizarre to have two years without a first party game, but I doubt that will happen.
tommib
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You forgot Ronin which is almost better than Helldivers 2.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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tommib
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We're going to have a Horizon X Bloodborne crossover aren't we?Guess who just became Playstation's new CEO.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Buggy Loop
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Guess who just became Playstation's new CEO.
At least he probably fucked the pretty version of Alloy.
tommib
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Truth bombs.
Kurotri
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I'm sure there are several factors, but isn't the most obvious one that games take way too long to make nowadays? I mean, 4 years in and I still don't have a sequel to my fav Sony game, Ghost of Tsushima. I pretty much expect 5+ year dev cycles now for every single AAA game. The only outlier here that immediately comes to mind is From.
ChorizoPicozo
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midnightAI
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Why do these dumb asses keep making articles about lack of games right before showcases? we know XBox has one in June and going off the past we can expect one from Sony before then.
If there is still a lack of announcements then make the article.
If there is still a lack of announcements then make the article.
Freelance Yakuza
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I mean, not digging the games that have dropped so far or just wanting to know more about what's coming in the second half of the year is totally cool, right? Everyone's got their preferences.
But let's be real here, saying Microsoft's in a better spot? That's just wild, lol.
But let's be real here, saying Microsoft's in a better spot? That's just wild, lol.
Yeah, there are a bunch of reasonable explanations for this situation
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Eh, they're in a 'better spot' by default since they're the only one of the two who have (some) games announced for the rest of the year.
ChiefDada
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What does the word "proportional" mean to you? And where did I ever say PS5 Pro would be best selling model? This is what I said:
In aggregrate, PS5 will outsell PS4 primarily because of GTA VI. As a subset, PS5 Pro will outsell PS4 Pro because of GTA VI AND the fact that it has no competition this gen.
TGO
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This awesome
Mephisto40
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IGN received their annual paycheck from Microsoft I see
GHound
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Depending on how you run the numbers, when Ghost of Tsushima's PC release comes out on thursday they will have either released more or the same number of their own IPs on PC this year as PS5.
Which is the long way of saying "not a whole lot."
I would certainly hope they've got something hidden in their prison pocket.
Which is the long way of saying "not a whole lot."
I would certainly hope they've got something hidden in their prison pocket.
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_Ex_
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Sources:
PlayStation 5 - Wikipedia
Category:PlayStation 5-only games - Wikipedia
Portugeezer
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Not even gonna watch that, but FF7 Rebirth and Stellar Blade came out recently... two great games, among others, but not going to bother.