They don't like anemic sales for AAA single player games because the budget for those are huge and thus requires massive sales to make a good profit.
Returnal has 3,300 Steam Reviews, The Last of Us almost 26,000.
That's true, too busy playing Adderall Dota and 20 year old Counter Strike. At 500fps.
Mainly because of Destiny 2.
People just like fun gameplay loops at the end of the day. Dota does fuck all for me but I know people who adore it. The more variety the merrier I say!
I wasn't counting Destiny 2. It's not tracked as a PlayStation game on Steam.
Can you show me all of the ports revenue being $400 million.
Ackchyually... 5962 including copies sold on third party sites like Cdkeys etc (Review type All)
not me. I think these numbers are fine. but yes, we have dumbasses on this page who act like these are costing 10s of millions of dollars to port AND need to be selling 10s of millions of copies to be worthwhile.I can't be the only one deriving a cathartic pleasure from seeing fanboys cry over Sony porting their games and trying to convince themselves that this isn't good for Sony. Rift Apart costing $2.5M to port and GOW being ported by a 4-man team over two years means these cost almost nothing and are a huge ROI. Spider-Man with only 1.5M copies sold generated $52M in profits. HZD is probably at $100M and had a 250% ROI after only a few months and you think they'll stop?
You can see how hurt some of them are and they're desperately trying to paint 3.3M copies as a bad number.
Do you have any other describing words besides “dumb” in your vocabulary?
I don’t think they need to release day one.They would defintely get more sales if they did three months or 6 months after console. Honestly these sales figures aren’t bad considering how long they been on console for. Also the pricing is trash there damn near selling these games almost at full price when in fact all these games are greatest hits status.
As for UC, I remember gamers bringing UC 1-3 are PS3 era games. And Sony didn't want to port games that old on Cell architecture t o PC. Cut to the chase and port PS4 era games since its easier.
It does seem worth it if it's certain games. Horizon and GOW sold well at roughly 3M each. DG did decent too at 1.7M. The rest have sold terribly even though the time frame is less. There's no way any of those other games are coming close to Horizon/GOW numbers even if on the market for another year and someone did the analysis on sales per same time frame.
Ok but Steam is a big platform. Theres no way Ratchet and Clank should be full priced on there when it was out two years prior.
There was the remastered Uncharted trilogy on the ps4. They should have released it first.
The big boys sold incredibly well.
Pretty shit ass sales. Might as well keep them exclusive, JIM
The $$$ per game do look low even after subtracting Steam or GG cuts, but the difference seems to be PC bargain binning.
Epic takes only 12% and Steam reduces its share to 25% after $10 million in sales and to 20% after $50 million.
It's the nature of PC gaming, multiple storefronts each competing and offering good price.
Yes you hear it on gaming forums full of enthusiasts. We are a tiny bubble compared to the vast majority of gamers and it's very easy to think all gamers are like us, but they're not. Check the most played games on steam, check the most used hardware configs, they do NOT match what you hear and expect from what you hear talked about on Gaf and the like. Check how popular CoD and sports games are consoles, same thing. A huge chunk of people are playing Dota 2 and LoL on a shitty 10 year old i5 and integrated graphics and don't give a fuck, or can even afford a second system like a PS5.
I don't get why some Playstation owners get this mad over suggestions that Sony should release their on PC day one. Because you feel less special? It's literally something almost every publisher to.
I just can't believe those people are adults. Not many teens post on gaf right? It's full of old farts like me and yet we STILL see classic gamefaqs esque behaviour on the daily. It's quite funny thoughI can't be the only one deriving a cathartic pleasure from seeing fanboys cry over Sony porting their games and trying to convince themselves that this isn't good for Sony. Rift Apart costing $2.5M to port and GOW having been ported by a 4-man team over two years means these cost almost nothing and are a huge ROI. Spider-Man with only 1.5M copies sold generated $52M in revenues. HZD is probably at $100M and had a 250% ROI after only a few months and you think they'll stop?
You can see how hurt some of them are and they're desperately trying to paint 3.3M copies as a bad number.
That’s not a great argument because look how much people are still willing to pay for Mario Kart 8 and that was on Wii u. Console gamers spend more money on games than PC Gamers. All I’m saying is the pricing is wild that Sony is charging full price for 6 year old games when PC gamers have alternative ways for getting the game cheaper. Only way I can justify full price and them getting more sales on a game at full price is either releasing day an date or within the 3 to 6 months after console release.
Not true Spider-Man 2 released with glitches. If anything it’s usually the PC ports that are worse with console releases.
Because there would be hundreds of millions of PS5 sold and that's clearly not the case.
I'm PC only and know plenty of others who are PC only. We've picked up some Sony ports. If they hadn't been ported, we wouldn't have picked them up. The great fallacy is that Sony games have some immense importance outside of the Sony ecosystem. They don't.
I know, what the fuck is up with that!? Sony make some of the best games out their but I guess the PCMR love their train Sims and Hentai Tentacle monster games over quality AAA walking sims
And who's fault is that?
the market
Consumers will purchase the best products available. They did in the late 90's and 00's even when budgets were far smaller. This is self-inflicted bloating that happens when companies think they can keep making exponentially more money year after year.
They gave PS4 version away for free during the Covid lockdowns. Many claimed a copy and never played it.
for consumers to be aware of the "best products available" products need to be marketed, and that shit is expensive.
-You don't have to go overboard with marketing. If a game is good it gets around.
