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[Spyxos]

Again, most switch players play games that don't need or care about a more powerful upgrade. Can't imagine buying an OLED when stickdrift is there when you return from the toilet. Also, who play Doom on a handheld.

I played through it on the Switch on the go.

 

[Putonahappyface]

The Switch hardware was never enough for me. I'd love a Nintendo console on par with a PS5/XBSX.

 

[22:22:22]

I played through it on the Switch on the go.

You're not the only one. I just can't phantom playing such a game on the switch longer then 5 minutes before my hands starts cramping up seriously. Let alone dealing with all the action on that screen.

No Ill will intended btw

 

[RAIDEN1]

The hardware power for the Switch may not be enough for some, but for Nintendo it is still MORE than enough...otherwise they'd have switched it up by now....(pun intended..)

 

[touchfuzzy]

Nope, I couldn't care less about hardware power. I'll buy whatever's next from them day one cause I'm a fan but I'd be perfectly fine if Switch continued on for another five years.

 

[22:22:22]

The Switch hardware was never enough for me. I'd love a Nintendo console on par with a PS5/XBSX.

Likewise and I can explain how I'd like to see it manifest but it's of no use.

 

[Mossybrew]

It was never enough which is why I never bought one.

 

[22:22:22]

Imagine a BC Switch TV only console with it's lifelong library optimized.

 

[22:22:22]

Nope, I couldn't care less about hardware power. I'll buy whatever's next from them day one cause I'm a fan but I'd be perfectly fine if Switch continued on for another five years.

Do you buy mostly the 1st party titles like Mario Zelda Kirby etc?

 

[brian0057]

If the games are good (which, for the most part, they are) I don't care.

 

[fallingdove]

It wasn’t enough when it launched. It was weak and shoddily made. I definitely need Nintendo to win me back after my experience with their latest hardware.

 

[Robb]

It doesn’t really bother me. I was actually surprised how well it still holds up when playing through the Metroid Prime Remaster recently. That game looks fantastic by any measure!

That said though I would purchase a Switch 2 , or even a Switch Pro, day one. I want new/better hardware for sure.

 

[Alan Wake]

I mostly play less demanding games on mine so it's fine, I guess.

 

[touchfuzzy]

Do you buy mostly the 1st party titles like Mario Zelda Kirby etc?

First party and indies, yes. Square is the only third party I really care about -- I bought a PS5 for FFXVI but could've lived without it otherwise (hoping that changes soon with some kind of Sony showcase)

 

[flying_sq]

Never was, but I think it was partly to keep costs down. Don't have to burn time producing high quality assets during development.

 

[22:22:22]

First party and indies, yes. Square is the only third party I really care about -- I bought a PS5 for FFXVI but could've lived without it otherwise (hoping that changes soon with some kind of Sony showcase)

In that case the switch serves you well enough i reckon.

I really want to play ToTK but 25fps man..

 

[Fbh]

Honestly in handheld mode it still holds up pretty decently but in docked mode most games look horrible. Bayonetta 3 was borderline unplayable for me in docked mode because of how muddy and blurry it looked, but in handheld mode it was mostly fine.

Would it be nicer to play Tears of the Kingdom on a console that can actually run it at 1080p and 60fps? Sure. But I'm still going to have a blast with it on the Switch

 

[Mokus]

In the last decade or so, I learned that a true Nintendo fan would never complain about graphics.

 

[22:22:22]

Nice passive aggressive reaction Alexios you should feel proud

Honestly in handheld mode it still holds up pretty decently but in docked mode most games look horrible. Bayonetta 3 was borderline unplayable for me in docked mode because of how muddy and blurry it looked, but in handheld mode it was mostly fine.

Would it be nicer to play Tears of the Kingdom on a console that can actually run it at 1080p and 60fps? Sure. But I'm still going to have a blast with it on the Switch

Same. Going to have a awesome time just with BotW which I put over 250 hour in. Doesn't mean I'd prefer it to play it at 60fps and higher res.

 

[Patrick S.]

Just yesterday I played some Skyrim on the Switch, and then went to the same area in the PS5 version to compare. Yeah, PS5 has more foliage and 60 fps, but other than that? I'd be fine playing through the game on the Switch. It's still better than the Xbox 360 version I've spent dozens of hours in.

No Man's Sky is baaaaarely acceptable, but still, I wouldn't shed a tear if I had to play it on the Switch.

More often than not, I'm firing up my Switch instead of my gaming PC or PS5 when I just want to kill some time playing. The low power consumption i.e. running costs offset most of my displeasure with lower quality visuals.

 

[DownLikeBCPowder]

Yeah, it really doesn't bother me. My most played device overall by far for the last year since I bought it in January (of 22).

 

[Patrick S.]

Nice passive aggressive reaction Alexios you feel proud.



Same. Going to have a awesome time just with BotW which I put over 250 hour in. Doesn't mean I'd prefer it to play it at 60fps and higher res.

I have two modded V1 Switches, so I can just turn up CPU, GPU and mem speeds.

I read somewhere that there's a super inexpensive modchip that'll work with later versions around the corner, like, a couple bucks.

 

[Romulus]

Ofcourse not. What a ridiculous question. But what games besides Zelda do they need an upgrade for generally speaking

60fps in 2023 is bare minimum for a game where timing is key. 20-30fps is trash.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

I'm a 51 year who still thinks Cinemaware games running on an Amiga are some of the best looking titles ever.

Nothing beats It came from the desert or Wings it's true.

 

[n0razi]

Nope.... have a launch switch and plan to play Zelda2 on an emulator due to the terrible performance of the native hardware

 

[hemo memo]

Playing mostly portable so i’m not complaining. Would I want a powerful Nintendo console so I can only buy games one console instead of 3? Yes but I don’t see Nintendo winning the power race.

 

[22:22:22]

60fps in 2023 is bare minimum for a game where timing is key. 20-30fps is trash.

No offense but

 

[nikos]

It was underpowered on day one. I still like the console, especially now that it has an OLED display, but I only play specific games on it.

 

[FearlessBelgian]

No, no and no.

That a shame to sold 70$ game on this trash hardware in 2023... Typical Nintendo...

 

[MAtgS]

I played BotW on Wii U. TotK looks fine to me.

 

[Calverz]

Lol it stopped being power enough for me from about November 2017.

 

[//DEVIL//]

It was outdated for me the second Link started running in the forest in these sub 30 fps with horrible frame pacing and stuttering.

Couldn't even play the game. Will wait for Switch and hopefully backward compatible for 60 fps.

I could emulate it on PC though since I have high-end PC and stuff but I am too lazy.

 

[Astral Dog]

Gameplay>Graphics

Zelda TotK was always going to look like a Switch game.no less, no more

That said yeah of course the Switch 2 should be a huge jump in visual fidelity and power compared to the current one, it will be interesting to see , and produce some gorgeous portable games

 

[mrcroket]

This thread is the clear example of why new games tend to be so shitty. People don't care about gameplay, design, gameplay experience, art style.... People care about framerate and resolution, and this is really sad.... Maybe I'm getting old, but in the old days people didn't care if the game was running at higher or lower resolution or performance, only if the game had something to offer.

And mind you, I'm not saying that the switch hasn't fallen behind technically, but I'd rather a million times a game made with love for the switch hardware than the tons of generic 4k/60fps games with cloned mechanics and empty worlds.

 

[SeraphJan]

Handheld yes, TV no

 

[Celcius]

Last week I was going to do another play through of fire emblem three houses. After an hour or two I had enough of the visuals… the game just looks and runs rough.

 

[John Bilbo]

Until the release of Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity I was OK with the performance and hardware. That game run like ass though and was an embarrassment to play.

The multiplayer performance of Age of Calamity reminded me of Perfect Dark coop campaign on the N64 and that's fucking nuff said.

Edit: clarity added

 

[lughnasadh123]

Nintendo first party output hasn't interested me for a long time. I'm not their demographic, and that's fine. My Switch is more of a indie machine anyways, so less power doesn't really matter all that much. If it did I'd lean more in on the Steam Deck.

 

[Protocol7]

No it isn't and it was already the case the day it was released...
A simple 1080p/60fps with DLSS, would be a good start.
Not asking for a powerhouse, but I mean when you see what the Steam Deck can do (and the ones coming this year, the Asus one, especially, seems really promising (it's if not BS)).
/frustrated

 

[nightmare-slain]

I'm happy with it. I buy games for the gameplay not graphics. I can deal with it if it's low resolution/fps.

If TOTK was on PC (emulation doesn't count) would I buy it there instead? Yeah. But it's not so whatever I don't give a fuck. If Shin Megami Tensei V rumours of a Xbox/PC port are true I'll buy it on PC to replay but the thought of replaying it again on Switch doesn't bother me.

Next console needs to be a significant step up in performance. It HAS to have support for DLSS.

 

[Deerock71]

Dat 720p OLED makes me a happy handheld gamer, and screw the haters!

 

[Investor9872]

For far too long now, and it's still a NO!

 

[UnNamed]

Nintendo don't pursue graphics and powerful consoles, bla bla bla, but in the end you need a powerful hardwares to run ambitious games and better concepts.

 

[Quasicat]

I don’t play it for the power, I like having a portable gaming device that I can take with me. It does online pretty well and it’s cheap enough that even my non-gaming friends have one so we can play together and catch up. If I want performance, I’m on the Xbox and PlayStation. Otherwise, my Switch is awesome for Nintendo titles and retro games.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Nope. I'm sure Tears will be a great game. But it absolutely looks nearly the same as a 6 year old game that already looked like a 6 year old game when it launched.

The old underclocked TX1 is really holding it back. "Nintendo doesn't need power because of art style" crew is full of crap, their art is hidden under low resolution, lack of AF filtering and AA

 

[flipsake]

The only thing that bugs me about the power level is how laggy the eshop is.

 

[SSfox]

Switch was never good enough

 

[Thaedolus]

On the one hand I always want more power. On the other hand, I played my Switch more than any other more powerful system I owned (PC, PS4/PS5) from when I got it to when I got my Steam Deck.

So while I want an upgrade, if measured by actual playtime it’s still totally fine. I’m replaying Luigi’s Mansion 3 with my four year old and that game still looks great

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

powerful enough for gamecube remakes and wii u ports... and not much else.

 

[Murdoch]

Absolutely. I'm all for Nintendo first party and Indies. The switch is still chugging out some pretty decent looking games if you're not into AAA games.