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Jeremy Lin: Asian American, Harvard Grad... NBA great?
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Derrick rose, 2011 mvp.
There is no such thing as a "humble" NBA star...every single one of them think they are the best at their position. It's nice to see them pretend to be humble though.
That was the Raps second time in the playoffs. They made it for the first time the year previous.
twinturbo2
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I'm a (butthurt) Heat fan, and I could care less. It's not like the Knicks will get past the first round anyways.
That'd require them to get into the playoffs first.
donkey show
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yes, if only those overpaid negro thugs could be as humble as our lin eh?
Dreams-Visions
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lol damn.
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lol. on tv, you can't tell if a negro is huble. but asian guy, you can.
Uh?
I meant carter obviously.
Good Job Bob
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So is this guy getting attention because he's a legitimately great player, or because he's a good Asian player?
If this guy was Black would he be getting the same attention?
If this guy was Black would he be getting the same attention?
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because he's a decent asian player.
if he was black, he'd have a tattoo on his arm by now and throwing gang signs after every win.
Hes getting hyped for coming out of nowhere and leading a team that has performed below its expectations to wins without their star players.
The fact hes asian is just a +10
No cause good Black athletes are a dime a dozen. Leave us with our celebration of Lin.
Dreams-Visions
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certainly not. but he'd be getting some love.
i love it
I'd say the percentage split on the Lin Hype comes from:
50% - Because he's Asian
25% - Because he was at the end of the Bench, almost cut, to playing historically amazing
25% - Because he plays for New York
I'd swap the asian and NY part. Knicks hyped up shumpert for fucks sake.
Yep. I've to say though, in very happy for this kid. A lot of Asians in America and round the world are huge baskeball fans, so it's awesome to see one of their own doing really well in it.
Don't mean to come of as patronising but hope this streak continues.
beat
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Shouldn't "historically amazing" (for his first four starts, the points and assist totals are not only impressive but actual new records, albeit minor and unimportant records) count for a little more than that?
And it's not just that he plays in New York, the center of the American media, but also that New York was looking awful. Lin was on the verge of getting cut with nothing more than garbage time to show for his third NBA team, and D'Antoni himself was probably a couple more losses from getting fired himself. Lin's minutes against the Celtics and Nets were the desperation of the coaching staff trying the last guard they had available, which only happens when the ship is pretty much almost completely underwater.
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A couple of new pieces about Lin: http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2012/02/fifteen-reasons-to-stay-over-the-moon-about-lin.html and http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7570431/jeremy-lin and http://www.basketballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2066
Personally, I can't wait until the haters are saying his assist totals are inflated because he's passing to Carmelo and Amare (and in D'Antoni's system).
Edit: Oh, and I know the NBA thread had a discussion about the Knicks keeping Lin: here's the definitive word. http://knickerblogger.net/finally-a-definitive-answer-on-jeremy-lins-contract-status/ He's a restricted free agent, and under the Arenas provisions, but the waiver transactions did reset his "Bird Clock". So if he can be signed for the mid-level exception, the Knicks will definitely match. If he can justify more, it'll have to be heavily back-loaded and it can only come from a team well under the cap.
Fixed2BeBroken
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ProfessorMoran
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Why the fuck should Lin being "asian" even matter? He's american-born and raised, and it just happens his parents came from Taiwan. If he's a good player then he should get the attention he deserves.
Because its a huge market
Herpes Reasons
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apparently it matters those bandwagon jumpers watching basketball for the first time because of lin.
Anyone can post in BestGAF. I didn't register here until 2010, and I'm considered a regular in the thread now.
You just have to accept that you're going to take a few light-hearted lumps at the beginning. But if you 1) know a bit about basketball, and 2) don't act all sensitive about it, and 3) don't fall for the obvious troll posts, you'll do fine.
Race matters nimwad.
And good for Lin. He's doing good for himself and he's bringing attention to the Knicks, a losing franchise over the last decade +
Don't like all these "NO ONE BUT LIN IS HUMBLE" people nor the "LIN IS ASIAN AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON HES GETTING ANY LOVE" people.
Both camps need to sit the fuck down and enjoy the game.
Good Job Bob
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This is America.
this would be a big story if anyone went from near cut/end of bench to setting the RECORDs for the first 4 starts.
He does get bonus mania points for being asian, no doubt...but this is big because of the situation first.
Put it this way...take away the accomplishment and he is an asian ancestry guy playing in the NBA, not a story. Take the asian out of the equation....this is still a huge story.
He does get bonus mania points for being asian, no doubt...but this is big because of the situation first.
Put it this way...take away the accomplishment and he is an asian ancestry guy playing in the NBA, not a story. Take the asian out of the equation....this is still a huge story.
Fixed2BeBroken
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i just hate douches. and also, they still be overcompensatin
I've been asian since I went to my first waterslide park when I was 9.
I have valid reason to be on the linsanity wagon.
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are you insinuating that all asians like waterparks.
racist.
everyone knows REAL asians go to sixflags.
damn bro you still salty.
keep up next time.
Fixed2BeBroken
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definitely not salty. I won that one b. you feeling better about yourself though, i remember you was pretty mad though. hope you feeling better b
i haven't been following the nba but i caught wind of this thanks to flipboard. and i've been eatin' it up. i'm biased 'cos i asian too.
the story is absolutely the combination of his accomplishments and background.
he's the quintessential asian kid, straight A's, newspaper editor, gettin' into harvard and graduating
BUT
he also led his high school, and college basketball teams to success (how the hell did he do all that??)
AND
he's a pretty humble guy (not gonna say he's the only humble guy in the nba. that's a goddamn generalization)
why did he go undrafted? passed through several d-league and pro teams? was it racial prejudice? that i donno and cant' answer. but he kept at it and kept trying, and eventually got his shot and made the best of it. it just also happens to be in NY goddamn C.
along the way, he could've given up hope and just fell into a regular white collar job. and likely would've had he been cut.
how long will he keep it up? who knows. even if he does get shut down and nothing happens for him the rest of the year, it'll still be one of the biggest stories of the year. if only as a case study on how big and how fast the story broke out.
sure there's that other asian guy, Yao Ming, but we all know he's like china's basketball ivan drago. and i don't where the hell he's been. is he like perpetually injured?
the story is absolutely the combination of his accomplishments and background.
he's the quintessential asian kid, straight A's, newspaper editor, gettin' into harvard and graduating
BUT
he also led his high school, and college basketball teams to success (how the hell did he do all that??)
AND
he's a pretty humble guy (not gonna say he's the only humble guy in the nba. that's a goddamn generalization)
why did he go undrafted? passed through several d-league and pro teams? was it racial prejudice? that i donno and cant' answer. but he kept at it and kept trying, and eventually got his shot and made the best of it. it just also happens to be in NY goddamn C.
along the way, he could've given up hope and just fell into a regular white collar job. and likely would've had he been cut.
how long will he keep it up? who knows. even if he does get shut down and nothing happens for him the rest of the year, it'll still be one of the biggest stories of the year. if only as a case study on how big and how fast the story broke out.
sure there's that other asian guy, Yao Ming, but we all know he's like china's basketball ivan drago. and i don't where the hell he's been. is he like perpetually injured?
I like how some people are trying to argue against the fact that amongst all the big team sports, basketball by far has the highest % of egotistical douchebags. When a great player (not saying lin is one of them) is humble, it does stand out. See: Dirk, Duncan, Rose, Nash.
No point is listing top players that are humble in the NFL, MLB, and NHL since it's the norm.
No point is listing top players that are humble in the NFL, MLB, and NHL since it's the norm.
Sho_Nuff82
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Yeah I haven't seen that since Derrick Rose, and before that it felt like ages ago for Kevin Durant.
Red Blaster
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It's not like Ray Lewis killed a guy or anything
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Be honest, when you look at Lin, do you immediately think "this guy is American"? I am born and raised in USA and I can guarantee that "American" is not the first thing people think when they see me. Occasionally I get obvious looks of "hrm, I'm surprised this guy speaks fluent English".
Lin being Asian-American is half the story
Mayweather mad that Asian is popular:
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-take/201202/floyd-mayweather-plays-race-card-jeremy-lin
Oh Mayweather!
http://www.thepostgame.com/blog/daily-take/201202/floyd-mayweather-plays-race-card-jeremy-lin
Oh Mayweather!
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Yes, lets do the Stephen Colbert and not see race...
...even if he's the only Asian American in the league
To be fair, it's basically true. When someone who does not fit the typical mold of an athlete within a given sport, they tend to get more attention than they would have if they were not the case. For example, Peyton Hillis, a successful white running back, was on the cover of Madden despite having a relatively average year compared to other running backs in the league.
There's certainly other factors at play, such as the fact that he was undrafted, went to Harvard and is playing legitimately good basketball atm, but it'd be disingenuous to suggest that he'd be as popular a player so few games into his career if he were simply another young black athlete in the NBA.
talisayNon
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or tiger wid golf etc
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Must be hanging out with Isiah Thomas and Dennis Rodman.
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