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JonTron Releases a Statement
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White nationalists from r/t_d are subscribing to him but they aren't actually watching.
Snkfanatic
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Ah look another junior saying to leave the poor poor racists alone.
So people are subbing to a 3 month long inert channel but also not really viewing any videos because it's been inert....
I can see channels gaining views and losing subs, but as Breads pointed out, there are weird thing going on where you increase subs who then don't watch any videos on the channel causing a 200% drop in the past 30 days.
It's important to realize that the other side is also angry and by being angry ourselves, we are doing nothing more than reflecting their anger and acting exactly the same as those we claim to be different from. Don't become the thing you are fighting against.
The Jackdog
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so is the youtuber life cycle:
make videos > gain popularity > do something racist or insensitive > destroy good will towards you
make videos > gain popularity > do something racist or insensitive > destroy good will towards you
kqedequalsvolvo
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Pretty sure he's making fun of the stream of concern trolling being conducted by Jontron defenders.
"Blacks are diluting the founding stock, have lower IQ's and commit more Crime"
"Dude that's racist, isn't backed up by facts and might be a harmful outlook."
"Look at this! The left are just as bad as the alt-right! How dare they hold me accountable for the things I say. The real Nazi's amirite?"
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Way too tired to understand the reference but I was being serious. To them upvoting/ downvoting/ subscribing/ unsubscribing is a form of activism and they had a front page thread to show JT support for "redpilling" gamers.
ScientificPizza
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Hahahahaha
kqedequalsvolvo
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Ah - apologies to them if so. I've just seen totally serious statements like that in threads like this before.
What I want to know is which idiot is apparently teaching our children that anger is something to be avoided.
Stop telling people to not get angry. The type of shit Jon vomited on to us on camera is one of those times where anger is the perfectly appropriate response. Really wish that people would stop coming in and preaching to the thread about how anger is bad and wrong. Anger is what pushes people to change things.
If you can't handle confrontation because you lack the emotional maturity to recognize that sometimes anger good then frankly piss off because you are doing nothing to help and allowing shitstains like Jon to scream their racist filth directly into the ears of children with your cringing, solely because loud noises scare you.
Stop telling people to not get angry. The type of shit Jon vomited on to us on camera is one of those times where anger is the perfectly appropriate response. Really wish that people would stop coming in and preaching to the thread about how anger is bad and wrong. Anger is what pushes people to change things.
If you can't handle confrontation because you lack the emotional maturity to recognize that sometimes anger good then frankly piss off because you are doing nothing to help and allowing shitstains like Jon to scream their racist filth directly into the ears of children with your cringing, solely because loud noises scare you.
Yes, the current situation of people reacting negatively to public, verifiable statements made by Jontron are directly comparable to a period in time during which people were tried and tortured to death on vague suspicions of having magical satan powers.
Edit: This is sarcasm, by the way.
Yeah things are bad now, satire of defenders of hate speech is almost indistinguishable from actual defenders of hate speech.
You would be surprised how many walls I hit when I try to estabilish this as a baseline for argument. "Accept the facts, mate, blacks ARE less intelligent, and also muslims, and jews, and..."
Back to the 19th century!
The thing I replied to was obviously a joke, so I assumed people would realize it was a continuation.
You can thank mainstream media like fox news for that. Misinforming people on what free speech actually is has muddied the waters to the point to where the reactionary gop sort now use what used to be obvious satire as their talking points which include but is not limited to defending hate speech under the first amendment.... only as long as it triggers liberals.
Well done then. The post you replied to was more obvious but yours I had already written a response for before I backed out, not wanting to add to the dog pile.
kqedequalsvolvo
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I understand not knowing everyone on a huge site, but a one second look at my post history would clarify what I think. I don't know if it's anyone's responsibility to seek out context or history, though. It's an interesting question.
They haven't been confronted by press on this one.
Yeah, that's nothing to expect, it's also way too cumbersome on mobile.
That's the scary thing though, I had to double check it was a joke by re reading your post ( over repeating of 'angry, for comedic effect should of clinched it I know) and then tiangulating that with a post history skim read.
I may just be bad at picking up tone as well though.
I lost a a- to a b+ when is misread starship troopers as a pro fascist movie in a otherwise apparently well argued essay in a first year media studies paper.
That's...that's fucking stupid.
Every idiot Youtuber who exposes themselves as trash, I try and look at their content since I usually had never heard of them. I always end up thinking "this shit was pppular in the first place??"
But that's just me I guess. Anyway I hope this trash heap's "career" is over but this is Trump's America so congrats on making more money somehow.
But that's just me I guess. Anyway I hope this trash heap's "career" is over but this is Trump's America so congrats on making more money somehow.
grim-tales
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That's a good point. It sounded like he's blaming his audience for misinterpreting what he said, no we aren't doing that. He said dumbass disgusting things and should realise that.
He didn't get caught. He volunteered this information and he's sorry people disagree with him
1.) Equating any reaction with an irrational emotional one? Check.
2.) Disregarding context to the point of being a false equivalency? Check.
3.) Superficially objective, but transparently not, and primarily directing "helpful" chastisement toward those reasonably discussing an event? Check.
Edit: Jay, if your post was sarcastic, may I recommend not responding to a sarcastic post with a less sarcastic-seeming post. It's indistinguishable from a real one.
He had enough understanding during his discussion with Destiny that he stated "I don't want to say something incriminating", then at the end signs off with a laugh and " R.I.P my career".
Like he knew he had to dog whistle it, but was not cunning/ controlled enough to camoflage his dark little soul while simultaneously only signaling his white supremacy to nutjob fellow travelers.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
A whole lotta Juniors coming out of the woodwork in this thread.
Early Grumps might be fun to re-watch at this point with the subtext that it's really about one man slowly learning how fucking insane his friend is.
Messofanego
Banned
Toby Dammit, I know you got the time to watch a couple of videos since you're posting this much so here are just two that aren't particularly long.
ETC Show: Jontron has Interesting Opinions
Double Toasted: THE JONTRON AND STEVE KING CONTROVERSIES
Next time you want to jump into a thread agreeing with a white nationalist's video, check the source material
I nominate video #1 for OP.Toby Dammit, I know you got the time to watch a couple of videos since you're posting this much so here are just two that aren't particularly long.
ETC Show: Jontron has Interesting Opinions
Double Toasted: THE JONTRON AND STEVE KING CONTROVERSIES
Next time you want to jump into a thread agreeing with a white nationalist's video, check the source material
Gotta have a reason to be racist or else you're just an asshole. Communism was fine for it back then even though it literally made no sense. But try arguing THAT with those people.
Right up there with "all Italians are syphilitic, so kick them out of the country".
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
I understand their anger perfectly.
They are angry that other ethnicities and races are mixing with each other.
That's not a reasonable anger.
Did you watch the original stream?
The entire two hours he's constantly saying "I'm not going to say what I was going to say for fear of incriminating myself".
How About No
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lol oops
The posts are real, the sentiment is fake
Sorry you are ultra-super commulist
Fear-mongering via buzzword association. Basically, every single person in that image deserves the spot in Hell they filled a few years afterwards.
Communism was the boogieman of the time, so if you wanted people to turn against something, you accused it of communism.
Souldriver
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///PATRIOT
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Yup, the guy is racist.
Its seems strange to me that he brought up that gene pool comment even though he is half Iranian, hows that work out for him?
Cause children follow and look up to him. His opinion does indeed have merit.
Because he has a massive audience of mostly children, and his opinion represents what a lot of people are thinking. Why wouldn't you care about this? Apathy is never good.
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