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Just in from Japan: Toshiba announce defeat with HD-DVD
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BobLoblaw said:Well, I supported both. 78 BDs and 28 HD DVDs.Still, glad it's finally over. Now we may be able to get more catalog titles. The only downsides are:
1) Higher-priced standalone players
2) Potentially longer street dates for movie releases
3) Higher-priced movies
4) Fewer sales on said movies. :|
Still, at least it's over.
DVD was a single format that only needed to compete against it's predecessors (laser and vhs) and it didn't suffer any of those. I don't think this was an example of competition being good for the market, it suffered because of it. I mean just myself, I'm going to spend $1000+ on Blu-Ray movies over the next couple of months because I was reserved before cause I didn't know which one would win.
One thing against Blu-ray that will never make it as successful as DVD is that I don't expect people to re-buy their entire collections again. Everybody got rid of their VHS collections, and double dipped to get the DVD versions, but since Blu-Ray players play DVDs, and they still look great, I can't see many people rebuying everything aside from a few select movies.Tabris said:
Xisiqomelir
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Joe said:
Wow, you people really exist? :lol
Porthos said:
That's pretty much always been my stance. I buy Blu-Ray releases on brand new movies, but I'm sticking with my old DVDs on catalog titles. Upscaled on the PS3, they don't look bad at all. Not as good as Blu-Ray, but not bad enough for me to want to pay $25-$35 a pop to replace my collection. There are some exceptions to this - I'll definately rebuy LOTR Trilogy, all 6 Star Wars movies, Indiana Jones trilogy (soon to be quadigy).
Ether_Snake
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Porthos said:
Hello sir.
I am emailing you to inform you that you can play regular DVDs in your Blu-Ray player, so your sorry ass excuses are pointless. Thank you.
PS: Any future prints of already released movies will be featured on Blu-Ray. Have a good day.
DarkJediKnight
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Amir0x said:
Enjoy 40sec bootup, and 30 sec load times for another year or so then. These machines are all packing a ton of processing power. All blu-ray 2.0 Live players will contain 1gb of storage memory. There are still PCs used by people here who don't have 1gb.
If you want the fastest, easiest to set up, and the most advanced blu-ray player out there, the PS3 is it. Sure, in time there will be players that eclipse what the PS3 can do, but it will take take to match its convinience aspect of it.
The only 2 downsides to the PS3 is the noise it makes during movies, and the inability to bitstream HD audio codecs.
If you're dead set against the PS3, there are many BD live players coming out this year, from Pioneer, Denon, Sony, Marantz, and Panasonic.
Porthos said:
I don't think most Blu-ray adopters will rebuy their previous collections they already have on DVDs. However, I do think people who have a Blu-ray player will buy the new films going forward and that's more than enough to insure blu-ray's success. They wont go back to buying new films on DVDs. And people who dont own a blu-ray player and have a DVD player will think twise before buying new movies for the DVD, surely. DVD will die a slow death once more adopters adopt Blu-ray along with their HD tvs. It will take time, like all transitions to the successor of a product.
Xater said:
Problem there is, like Blu-Ray...Compact Disc was a group effort. Sony is only part of the development of both. Compact Disc had a lot to do with Philips as well.
Anyway, if in 2 years Blu-Ray is still around and the player and discs are down to $149.99 and $14.99 or less I'll check into it.
DarkJediKnight
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border said:
Oops, sorry, I meant 1gb of storage memory.
KZObsessed
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Ether_Snake said:
Didn't he just say that?...
Calm down and read next time, spud...
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iTunes and digital downloads are only 10% of the music market, and DD started earlier and is stronger there. It's some time away for mass mainstream video downloading.Tobor said:
Tobor said:
Yet, the sales of steam, XBLM, PSN, VC, Wiiware pale in comparison to the sales of the physical based formats.
Digital distribution is a viable solution for items that require small data like Music, but when if comes to large data distribution, it isn't as practice as the physical counterparts. Until we see a decline in sales of games and movies on physical formats, then we will talk. ( although piracy will contribute more to the decline that digital distribution).
Xisiqomelir
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Tobor said:
Okay dude good luck with that.
border said:
I was referring to his comment, which was "movies and games".
As for movies to be purchased, that would be iTunes. Coincidentally, I was pretty drunk last night and purchased Trading Places on iTunes at 2:30 in the morning. I passed out 15 minutes in.
As for yet another DD debate, I'll pass. It always ends with Bish lol'ing at DD, and I have a lunch to go to anyway.
Ignatz Mouse
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Digital *music* downloads are still a distant second to physical media. They're certainly catching up, but they're about 10 years ahead of where movie downloads are.
Blu is the best thing now and for the next decade.
I can get HD on demand over cable now... and the quality is crap compared to disc. It's good for what it is, but it's not a replacement for high quality media.
Blu is the best thing now and for the next decade.
I can get HD on demand over cable now... and the quality is crap compared to disc. It's good for what it is, but it's not a replacement for high quality media.
twinturbo2
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I'll be getting a PS3 soon...
Hellsing321
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Now I can start buying Blu-ray. Wanted to hold off until this whole thing was over.
StriKeVillain
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Nice. Now I feel even better about getting a PS3 next month.
http://www.ifpi.org/content/library/music market sales data 2006.pdfTobor said:
Digital content represents only 17% of music sales in the USA (and this figure includes cellphone bullshit like ringtones)......and only 11% of the worldwide market.
I don't know if iTunes is in 3rd place since you gave no reference, but if it is it looks like it is a pretty distant 3rd.
Too bad AppleTV is such a flop. DD can't take off unless there is a reliable way to get purchased content onto your TV.
Ignatz Mouse
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Tobor said:
And they're 10 years ahead of where movie downloads are, *and* they're still a minority! Yay! And that's for something that can be bought in 5 MB chunks *and* is generally used on-the-go!
But yeah, Digital Downloads will take over *any day now*!
Really, they will... but not as fast as people seem to want to believe.
border said:
http://www.macworld.com/article/58548/2007/06/itunesthird.html
I was slightly off. It's 3rd place behind Walmart and Best Buy. iTunes is actually ahead of Amazon. My apologies.
And with that, I bid you adieu.
BocoDragon
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Sounds like you made up your own personal "nerd rules" for buying movie/game players based on two machines: the PS2 and the Xbox. That's way too small of a survey.Amir0x said:
The PS3 is a golden bluray player. If there's anything better, it isn't here now. It won't be here this year. I'm skeptical as to what could possibly be better, too.....
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