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Killzone: Mercenary Reviews Thread
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FoZzI bEaR
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Such an arsehole thing to say because I don't want to buy the game.
Defensive GAF is defensive.
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2) Ignore the score at the end. Seriously.
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Honestly, the scores are about what I'd expected for a Vita game/Killzone game. I'm more interested in the more open level/gameplay design (someone mentioned Goldeneye?) and variety of ways to focus your playing style throughout the levels.
Now, if the objectives and encounters changed depending on the difficulty and if this game supported multiplayer with bots, Killzone Mercenary would be a top-contender for my handheld GOTY.
EDIT:
I think the issue here is that you're not doing much to contribute to the thread. Sure, some people may be overreacting but if you're not interested in this game, why bother sticking around?
1) Ignore the score at the end.
2) Ignore the score at the end. Seriously.
3) Remember that everything you're reading is just another persons opinion, and treat it as such.
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Honestly, the scores are about what I'd expected for a Vita game/Killzone game. I'm more interested in the more open level/gameplay design (someone mentioned Goldeneye?) and variety of ways to focus your playing style throughout the levels.
Now, if the objectives and encounters changed depending on the difficulty and if this game supported multiplayer with bots, Killzone Mercenary would be a top-contender for my handheld GOTY.
EDIT:
I think the issue here is that you're not doing much to contribute to the thread. Sure, some people may be overreacting but if you're not interested in this game, why bother sticking around?
And it was uphill both ways, a helluva climb. Epeens hadn't even been invented yet, if you wanted to slap a man you had to do it with your bare hands and get real dirty with your words, see?
Fuckin' whippersnappers.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Although I agree that KZM should clearly get the top marks possible in its field for visuals, regarding those Nova 2 scores most of them are from iOS dedicated sites by the look of it, so they won't consider vastly superior console games as part of the equation. Which is what should have happened with KZM, obviously, but Western reviewers have something of a bias against handheld titles in my opinion.
Of course you can, but what relevance does it have here to mention a completely different game on a competing platform? It's not even from a vaguely similar genre either, so why bring it up?
The fuck? You came into the thread acting like an ass.
Lol
Edit: Uncalled for remark. Excuse my stupidity.
GalacticMouse
Member
Tact? Nahh...
EDIT: Might as well actually contribute to the thread...I was in the closed beta, PS+ beta, and public beta and the game is a lot of fun. I've seen some complaints in the reviews that I don't agree with (specifically based on screen size) and some other things that seem off (4 hour campaign? Besides that and online, isn't there a 3rd game mode as well). I'm in the US and won't have a copy until Tuesday so, like many of you, I don't really have any credibility to say the reviewers are idiots or wrong in their opinions...but I definitely have a healthy dose of skepticism about some of them...
rain elbows
Member
Beta sold me on this game, day 1.
FoZzI bEaR
Banned
I appreciate your point but I thought the point of a forum was to discuss different opinions. People are welcomed into saying that it looks amazing but I can't say the opposite?
I would love to buy a vita but this game just didn't convince me to purchase one.
There was really a brief moment where I considered holding off and waiting for a price drop just because there's a bunch of crap coming out soon that I need to buy. Seeing the crazy range of scores this thing is getting is kind of pushing me forward to just snagging it on day one and making up my own damn mind about the thing, though.
From the beta I thought it played great and it's a hell of a looker to boot.
FoZzI bEaR
Banned
How on earth was my initial comment of ass like behaviour? The first guy to quote it acted like I just took a dump in his sock drawer ffs.
I only used Fire Emblem as an arbitrary example of a game I'd prefer to play. Not as an example of a game that is arguably better.
Didn't you know? Only games that reviewers like have the best graphics. In theory, nothing should be keeping a 5/10 game from having 10/10 graphics.
GalacticMouse
Member
Right, so you just jumped in a review thread for a high profile Vita game and started dropping the "I'd rather play a high profile 3DS game" crap.
Negativity begets negativity. If you don't want it thrown your way, don't put it out.
I totally agree with bolded. I just can't help it when Im reading the text body and it's still uninformed and factually wrong. This is the biggest thing that destroys reviews. They don't take the time to gather knowledge on the subject or even try to justify their opinion with evidence.
Killzone will do fine regardless. Its one of the few titles that will be unanimously reccommended by Vita owners.
I think there was an attempt at something of the sort. There was an "official" review thread where people could post their reviews of games, but I'm not sure what happened to it or how of often people contributed.
FoZzI bEaR
Banned
I only said such a thing because people were over reacting to my first comment. I could have said Golden Abyss or Persona 4.
1.21Gigawatts
Banned
I hope the score goes well above 80 once more US reviews come in.
This is the only thing you said that makes some sense(well if you don't consider all the objectively good things and scores the game has).
Maybe you aren't aware but all your other posts are just trolling.
If i were you i would stop, you won't get anything good keeping posting like this.
2+2=5's addendum:
4)don't expect a vita game to get the same treatment that other consoles' games get...
It also helps that Nova and similar games are well under $10 when released.
Given the gamut I'm not sure any of them are reliable at this point.
Well, there's a difference between "I'm not buying this game" and "I'm not buying this game because of *this* and *that*". There's not much to discuss if you don't back up your reasoning. What exactly is throwing you off? Mandatory touch controls? The reported campaign length? How would you have liked the developers to address your issues?
I agree that people doing the opposite aren't much better, but obviously they've been looking forward to this game and may be more sensitive to negative opinions that aren't presented in a manner that encourages discussion.
If you don't have anything positive to say, sometimes it can be better to just avoid saying anything at all to keep the thread from becoming derailed.
It doesn't seem to be western reviewers across the board. It seems like Europeans hate on handhelds more than North Americans (US and Canada). Especially those in the UK.
Triggerhappytel
Member
But again, what does that really have to do with anything? That's like me going into a TW101, gloating that its review scores were lower than hoped/expected and then saying I'd rather play The Last of Us. It's irrelevant and tantamount to trolling. I'd rather play Gravity Rush or Guacamelee than KZM, but they're not comparable so it would be a pointless comment.
CaptainTiptop
Member
Out of all the 9s and 8s, only two, maybe three of them are Sony fansites. Hell, even OPM UK gave it a 7.
Well, given what I have read, the following quote seems a tad hyperbolic:
The top three in the OT are Sony fansites...
Byakuya769
Member
Aggregate reviews or solicited posters?
Not sure these review sites are taking price into consideration. This is a $39.99 game, and a lot of t.he language seems to be direct comparisons to console FPS's.
OFF TOPIC
...sigh. You're a junior... Here at GAF, you're conduct is inexcusable simply because of that.. You joined on 04-16-2013.. You should know how things work around here
But Im going to help you understand what you did wrong.
Why would a game you have never played be a reason to NOT buy a system? Based on someone ELSE's review in which the thread is currently discussing the validity of...
Horrible entry, Dumb statement
You never played this game. Why would this not be a good game because someone says it isnt? Why do you feel the need express that you would rather play Fire Emblem
Right here, you openly admit you don't even own a Vita. Its one thing to enter a thread and discuss a subject you have interests in, but you came in here and openly attacked it... And you give the impressiont hat you were never interested in the first place
This is purely insensitive. What if I'm in a wheelchair? You don't know anybody on these forums. Watch what you say.
You have alot to learn Junior, May the mods have mercy on you.
...sigh. You're a junior... Here at GAF, you're conduct is inexcusable simply because of that.. You joined on 04-16-2013.. You should know how things work around here
But Im going to help you understand what you did wrong.
Why would a game you have never played be a reason to NOT buy a system? Based on someone ELSE's review in which the thread is currently discussing the validity of...
Horrible entry, Dumb statement
You never played this game. Why would this not be a good game because someone says it isnt? Why do you feel the need express that you would rather play Fire Emblem
Right here, you openly admit you don't even own a Vita. Its one thing to enter a thread and discuss a subject you have interests in, but you came in here and openly attacked it... And you give the impressiont hat you were never interested in the first place
This is purely insensitive. What if I'm in a wheelchair? You don't know anybody on these forums. Watch what you say.
You have alot to learn Junior, May the mods have mercy on you.
FoZzI bEaR
Banned
I meant for it to come across as a disappointed reaction to it, like: "oh bollocks, was hoping this game would score a bit higher so I would finally cave and buy a Vita". Rather than: "excellent, it's scoring lower than I hoped so that the Vita doesn't do as well". I was definitely not gloating. I sincerely do hope that the people who bought the game actually enjoy it. And Jesus Christ stop labeling me as a troll.
Avallon
Member
Digital, you may want to edit the post where you called him an idiot. He may be dead in the water, but you needn't be.
Colonel Nasty
Member
So pretty but not a great shooter? Sounds like KZ. Pretty much how I feel about the beta. I'll still give the full game a shot.
Avallon
Member
Because I like this thing, so everyone else should like this thing to justify me liking this thing. If not, I'm going to be upset.
You're right. Totally uncalled for and brash on my part.
I sincerely apologize Fozzi Bear.
In the Vita thread I told people that 9 missions is not good enough and the SP will be very short since developers always tend to exaggerate how long it take to beat the game and many of Vita owners in that thread just didn't want to believe that.
but anyway it's nice to see the game does many things right and offer true FPS multiplayers experience on the go, hopefully they'll get better and longer SP in KZM2.
but anyway it's nice to see the game does many things right and offer true FPS multiplayers experience on the go, hopefully they'll get better and longer SP in KZM2.
FoZzI bEaR
Banned
I've heard it stated as fact that if you finish the campaign in under 5 hours you were playing on baby mode. Why are you playing on baby mode?
lordchompy
Member
Some evidence that the game was unfairly judged: Playstation Official Magazine UK Killzone score: 70. And the score the publication gave to the travesty that is Resistance Burning Skies? 80.
amstradcpc
Member
One thousand better game that any COD game except for COD4 and one thousand times worse reviewed.Thats Killzone in the review world.Only by AI differences any KZ game should have always two points higher scores.
DirtyLarry
Member
Still have my preorder from Amazon. Loved the Beta and was blown away I was having a console experience on my handheld device.
Yes, I absolutely feel it is a console experience, just keep in mind I never said what console.
I think it is very fair to say the Vita is like having a PS2 in the palm of your hands. I still personally think that is super impressive and why I have owned one since Day 1.
Then you get some gems like Rayman Legends, which to me is nearly identical (thanks largely in part to its stylized visuals) to its current console iterations.
So yeah, I was keeping my preorder for Killzone even if it scored 5's across the board just because I played the Beta. And mind you I did not think the Beta was without a decent amount of flaws. It just brings an experience that has yet to be done right on the Vita with some truly impressive visuals to boot.
Hell, I was purchasing it just to say I support this in the future, please do more.
Yes, I absolutely feel it is a console experience, just keep in mind I never said what console.
I think it is very fair to say the Vita is like having a PS2 in the palm of your hands. I still personally think that is super impressive and why I have owned one since Day 1.
Then you get some gems like Rayman Legends, which to me is nearly identical (thanks largely in part to its stylized visuals) to its current console iterations.
So yeah, I was keeping my preorder for Killzone even if it scored 5's across the board just because I played the Beta. And mind you I did not think the Beta was without a decent amount of flaws. It just brings an experience that has yet to be done right on the Vita with some truly impressive visuals to boot.
Hell, I was purchasing it just to say I support this in the future, please do more.
Yes, that's the problem and many people look at Metacritic to make their final judgement. At least compare apples to apples for God's sake.
Nowgamer gave Hotline Miami 9/10 for graphics and 8/10 for graphics for this game, and Animal Crossing: New Leaf graphics are as good as KZM
Are you telling me that in any way makes sense?!
Yes because many people such as myself find the kill zone art and character design to be hideous.
Hotline Miami looks much better than any kill zone game console or handheld.
Well la di da for you, special snowflake.
Even for what the aesthetic it's trying to achieve, Hotline Miami doesnt look anything special.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Subjectively preferring one art style to another is understandable, but objectively no-one in their right mind should argue that KZM is probably the nicest looking and most technically impressive handheld game ever.
CaptainTiptop
Member
TheSixthAxis is not a Sony fansite. Not the best name to make that obvious, though.