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That's the best news I've heard in weeks, maybe months. Maybe ever.

Now, please, please, please don't let something happen that makes them patch any of them back in.

 

[PotionBleue]

Nintendo has been doing this on 3DS/Wii U games for years now I believe (last time warnings were displayed was on DS/Wii upon booting the console and/or a game). It's not a new thing.

 

[ILoveBish]

This better be the standard going forward. Despised mashing buttons to get past the dumb logos i don't care about.

 

[nynt9]

Out of curiosity, what takes the other 2 minutes and 14 seconds?

I think the 2:44 is the first install to game time, then every subsequent time is 30 seconds to game.

 

[killatopak]

I hope this trend continues.

 

[Grinchy]

Out of curiosity, what takes the other 2 minutes and 14 seconds?

They put the Antonio Banderas gif on a 2 minute loop before the first level starts.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

but that time when all of the logos and stuff come up is normally when I remove my pants and get comfortable.
Plenty of time.

Now it goes right to the game?

What the fuck about my pants, Guerilla?

 

[Tingfrmnongpradu]

That's awesome. Hope it catches on for all games because splash screens suck. I just wanna play the damn game, I don't give two fucks what middleware it uses. lol

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

Be prepared, legal department.

 

[Gonff]

Wind Waker HD does something like this. It's pretty cool.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

Oh yes GG.

 

[Gowans]

BRILLIANT!!!!

So easy to do too, I love it!

 

[Prince Vultan]

wtf?! How will I know if the game has Havok and Gamespy now??!?!

 

[crazygambit]

I hope every developer does this, I want all games to start as fast as when Yoshida joined his friend when he was streaming the KZ game.

At least you can put next gen consoles in sleep mode, so even if initial loads are somewhat lengthy, you can still get right back on whichever game you were playing. I loooooove that on Vita.

 

[DBT85]

Be prepared, legal department.

A jar of peanuts says on the can, contains peanuts. They don't need to write it on every peanut contained therein.

I imagine they have to put something on the box.

 

[zoukka]

1080p/30fps single player, 1080p/60fps multiplayer, right?

It's not locked 60fps though so I don't know what you should call it. 30+ fps I guess?

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

That's actually great ( the epilepsy warning might be muddy territory though).
But no company logos and whatnot? Awesome.

 

[FireCloud]

They put the Antonio Banderas gif on a 2 minute loop before the first level starts.

That would be an awesome easter egg!

 

[TheRealTalker]

but that time when all of the logos and stuff come up is normally when I remove my pants and get comfortable.
Plenty of time.

Now it goes right to the game?

What the fuck about my pants, Guerilla?

like what HouseMarque said.... "your pants will be blown away"

 

[antitrop]

It's not locked 60fps though so I don't know what you should call it. 30+ fps I guess?

Variable targetted 60?

 

[crazygambit]

It's not locked 60fps though so I don't know what you should call it. 30+ fps I guess?

I think the multi is 60fps locked. Does that mean there can never be drops? Of course not, but it's locked at 60 and will only drop in extreme situations, like pretty much every other game (at least that's what I understood from the dev comments).

 

[t26]

Game changer

 

[DBT85]

It's not locked 60fps though so I don't know what you should call it. 30+ fps I guess?

60 unless the world explodes is 60.

 

[Elginer]

Amazing work. Hope more devs follow.

 

[Killthee]

Out of curiosity, what takes the other 2 minutes and 14 seconds?

Probably the story intro cutscene.

 

[Cragvis]

So how long until someone gets a seizure from playing Killzone Shadow Fall and sues Sony because there wasn't an epilepsy warning at the start of the game?

First scene of the game:

Battle raging across a space port dock

bullets can be heard wizzing by followed by a loud explosion.

You awake to a fuzzy light colored screen, screen wobbly, you hear a voice call out to you:

"Soldier! Get on your feet! There is a war to fight!....unless you have epilepsy and are prone to seizures due to excessive colors and light flashing in which case you should consult a doctor and stop playing the game immediately....NOW GET OUT THERE AND TAKE THAT POSITION!! PEW PEW PEW"

 

[antitrop]

60 unless the world explodes is 60.

Just want to post it because

This is the most I've been impressed by smoke effects since Call of Duty 2.

 

[Blueblur1]

All games should do this.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

It's not locked 60fps though so I don't know what you should call it. 30+ fps I guess?

It's 60fps locked but unlike others at least GG telling people that it can drop when a lot happens on screen.
Which is what happens in almost every game on console in MP .

 

[levitan]

now, that's really cool. All things shaping up pretty well for Guerilla.

 

[AndyD]

I think the 2:44 is the first install to game time, then every subsequent time is 30 seconds to game.

But he says no installs... its oddly phrased:

But I think all things considered, this being launch and we've got like 2 minutes 44 from disc to the first level and no installs, I think it's already a massive improvement over previous generations.

So 2:44 from disc in to play. That seems very long, logos or not. Or do we watch a 2 minute intro video that masks install before we actually control? Uncharted style.

 

[zoukka]

60 unless the world explodes is 60.

I'll believe it when I see the receipts.

 

[GalacticaN7]

I love Guerrilla. You can dislike their games, but they love trying to push the limits and be innovative in little ways.

 

[zma1013]

30 second load, no splash screens, 10 minute intro cinematic.

 

[GreggTheGrimReaper]

Best news here in a long while!

 

[Gaz_RB]

Don't splash screens cover up loading screens? And we still have loading screens at the beginning, so I don't see how this makes such a big difference.

 

[Dark Octave]

I pretty much disagree with everyone here (and the dev) then. I feel splash screens belong and have a place. I hate when there are 30 non skippable ones in one game but they are never too long. I've never changed my mind about playing a game because of a splash screen. I feel that companies and key people should get up front recognition for their work.

 

[Unknown One]

COD multi is not locked either. People falsely thinks so. It dips all the time.

Consumers give a shit about splash screens. Only developers and middleware people care.

 

[TheRealTalker]

30 second load, no splash screens, 10 minute intro cinematic.

which would be AWESOME

of course you could skip the intro if you want I guess or they'll put it into the SP and just bring you to the menu screen from the get go

 

[Patrickv27]

Awesome, this should be a standard. If not, we should have an option to disable it after the first start, or at least can skip it.

 

[DBT85]

I pretty much disagree with everyone here (and the dev) then. I feel splash screens belong and have a place. I hate when there are 30 non skippable ones in one game but they are never too long. I've never changed my mind about playing a game because of a splash screen. I feel that companies and key people should get up front recognition for their work.

Yet at the cinema it's all in the credits, and they've done it that way for decades.

 

[antitrop]

COD multi is not locked either. People falsely thinks so. It dips all the time.

CoD single player is closer to 30 than it is to 60, most of the time.

The multiplayer usually hovers 50s to 60 on consoles, yeah.

 

[Gaz_RB]

I pretty much disagree with everyone here (and the dev) then. I feel splash screens belong and have a place. I hate when there are 30 non skippable ones in one game but they are never too long. I've never changed my mind about playing a game because of a splash screen. I feel that companies and key people should get up front recognition for their work.

Yeah the more I think about it I don't think it's as huge a deal. I never even thought about it until this news.

Yet at the cinema it's all in the credits, and they've done it that way for decades.

Some movies have those company intros at the beginning...

 

[SniperHunter]

Right on

 

[Muppet of a Man]

More than even the load times, the ridding of the million unskippable splash screens when booting the game is probably the best thing to happen since it was done the right way in the 8-bit and 16-bit eras.

 

[FullMetaltech]

2:44 could mean intro to story tutorial with no loading scenes when the gameplay starts straight to game. who knows.

 

[meta4]

CoD single player is closer to 30 than it is to 60, most of the time.

The multiplayer usually hovers 50s to 60 on consoles, yeah.

KZ SF is 60 fps on multi and 35-45 fps currently in SP.

 

[Beckx]

But he says no installs... its oddly phrased:



So 2:44 from disc in to play. That seems very long, logos or not. Or do we watch a 2 minute intro video that masks install before we actually control? Uncharted style.

Yeah, I feel like we're burying the lede here. If this is just install, fine, but if it's really this long every time, that's awful.

 

[somesayyea]

this should become standard

 

[Dibbz]

I pretty much disagree with everyone here (and the dev) then. I feel splash screens belong and have a place. I hate when there are 30 non skippable ones in one game but they are never too long. I've never changed my mind about playing a game because of a splash screen. I feel that companies and key people should get up front recognition for their work.

They get credit in the credits.