MassiveAttack said:And this is where life becomes very difficult for Viacom. Activision is going to enjoy this show immensely.
I doubt activision cares, and viacom will pay $$ and license the patents and that will be the end of it
MassiveAttack said:And this is where life becomes very difficult for Viacom. Activision is going to enjoy this show immensely.
MassiveAttack said:And this is where life becomes very difficult for Viacom. Activision is going to enjoy this show immensely.
sneaky77 said:I doubt activision cares, and viacom will pay $$ and license the patents and that will be the end of it
MassiveAttack said:Take a look at recent litigation history between ATVI and Viacom.
Only this time I don't think Konami can up and buy Harmonix, like they did with Roxor and ITG.ZealousD said:Oh boy.
It's In the Groove all over again.
So they shouldn't defend themself? And EVERYONE waits to sue, including Viacom the defendant. Not to mention that building a solid case takes time too.Zeenbor said:Pathetic. I just lost tons of respect for Konami.
God help us if any of you ever get into big business. If they do nothing then everyone will walk all over them.truly101 said:SO when you snooze, you lose, a lawsuit is the best solution? How douchey of Konami. Hope they lose.
Kunan said:So they shouldn't defend themself? And EVERYONE waits to sue, including Viacom the defendant. Not to mention that building a solid case takes time too.
God help us if any of you ever get into big business. If they do nothing then everyone will walk all over them.
I can't believe people are actually defending VIACOM, the one who wants all your personal information through their suit of YouTube that guess what, THEY WAITED UNTIL IT WAS POPULAR and purchased by GOOGLE of all companies to sue. Doesn't that sound exactly like this case, except with huge bill of rights violations? Frig people, frig.
Kunan said:So they shouldn't defend themself? And EVERYONE waits to sue, including Viacom the defendant. Not to mention that building a solid case takes time too.
biggkidd32 said:Respect minus one for konami. I hate Viacom, but patent trolls are the worse.
Well yea, I did mention that in the sentence right before that line. That was just a supplementary argument, not the main one.robochimp said:Building a solid case? They waited until the franchise was popular and development on a huge sequel was practically done. They want a settlement.
Thats the tactic used in all these cases, right or wrong just don't call it anything but that.
Yea I'm confused by people's reasonings here too.Zoe said:How are they patent trolls if they've actually produced things with their patents?
sneaky77 said:We cannot compete and we did not have the foresight to invest into the idea when we were first to market with it... therefore now we are gonna sue
Kunan said:Yea I'm confused by people's reasonings here too.
jett said:If Viacom/Harmonix didn't pay for the right to rip-off Konami then they deserve to get sued.
You mean patent law 101 not business 101.Replicant said:This. Some people in here needs to learn Business 101 before opening their piehole. Maybe if your invention/design is used by others without permission you'll understand this better.
What does their legal department have to do with Kojima Productions? I'm sure their lawyers were hard at work creating those lifelike character models.sakuragi said:^ They were too busy making MGS4 the best game ever?
AstroLad said:Funny thing is they would have never sued if Rock Band wasn't such a great game and a huge hit. So yeah, what does that tell you about their motivations here?
daegan said:They sued Andamiro over Pump It Up.
Which was NEVER a huge hit.
Kunan said:I can't believe people are actually defending VIACOM, the one who wants all your personal information through their suit of YouTube that guess what, THEY WAITED UNTIL IT WAS POPULAR and purchased by GOOGLE of all companies to sue. Doesn't that sound exactly like this case, except with huge bill of rights violations? Frig people, frig.
Funny but trueCrateman said:
Alpha_eX said:What's funny is, Konami were working on Rock Revolution before Rock Band was in development, they took far too long. They should concentrate on the arcade games, they've missed any opportunity they had with the home market.
McBradders said:Aren't Zoe Mode developing that?
Kunan said:Wow I just noticed how similar the world tour drums are to the beatmania ones, cymbols and all! Konami really missed the boat here.
Nope, if you don't step up there's bound to be other people to offer a better product, it's just how the market works. Konami screwed up.plagiarize said:this is a tricky one. Rock Band is awesome but we know Konami started this stuff. they legitimately were first to market with this kind of idea and if their patents are good, whether or not they realised the idea to its full potential is kind of besides the point.
that's not the case. not legally speaking anyway. sure there are more consumer friendly ways to go, and i'll always celebrate them... but you can't just take someone elses patent and improve it a bit and call it your own.Prime crotch said:Nope, if you don't step up there's bound to be other people to offer a better product, it's just how the market works. Konami screwed up.
plagiarize said:that's not the case. not legally speaking anyway. sure there are more consumer friendly ways to go, and i'll always celebrate them... but you can't just take someone elses patent and improve it a bit and call it your own.
Yea I know. I just didn't realize til I saw the pic just how similar they were.sneaky77 said:Someone posted a link that Activision paid Konami to use the patents.
Depends on the patent and the laws, not to mention this isn't the only case where a rival company makes a similar or better product and can come out free of any legal charges.plagiarize said:that's not the case. not legally speaking anyway. sure there are more consumer friendly ways to go, and i'll always celebrate them... but you can't just take someone elses patent and improve it a bit and call it your own.
Prime crotch said:Viacom will probably just pay up Konami since it's probably cheaper than going to court.
lawblob said:I love threads where legal issues are discussed. The strong opinions crack me up; as if any of us have any idea whether or not patents were or were not infringed. Time will tell, people...
Tenks said:Just because Konami was more-or-less sitting on their patent doesn't put Harmonix in the right
Mr Jared said:Truth
The idea of patenting "press the blue button when you see the blue symbol" is kind of.... retarded. And I hope it fails, miserably.Zoe said:How are they patent trolls if they've actually produced things with their patents?
Sage00 said:Didn't Harmonix just reuse Konami's internally developed engine they made for the Japanese Karaoke Revolution games?