demosthenes
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Kotaku Rumor: PS4 out in November, control with your phone/tablet, maybe $429/529
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Hypereides
Member
Yeah, Sony should definitely continue providing the same/similiar service.
Its gonna be a mess if they expect current PS3 adopters to go over to p2p online MP. It would really hurt the structure they've already built.
gaming_noob
Member
I'm 100% certain (no source here) that online play will still be free on PSN. I'm not concerned at all. PSN+ I'll have to just ignore tomorrow...
Speculation time ..
PS4 ($429)
250GB
EyeToy
Controller
Free Online MP, Demos
PS4 ($529)
500GB
EyeToy
Controller
Launch (Move) Game Pack-in
1 Year of PlayStation World (BC via Gakai, PS+ features, Streaming etc.)
If it the real world model comes down to something like this, I'd go with the $429 version in a heartbeat. Upgrade the HDD myself (assuming they dont force proprietary HDD crap ala MS), get the PS World subscription when it's tested and tried. And fuck the pack-in Move Game
In this article, the biggest surprise IMO is;
1. Price
2. Price when EyeToy is bundled with every console.
Not bad, I could see the $429 model coming with a 3 month trial of PS+/PS World just to try to hook people.
Stillmatic
Member
Sony aren't going to talk pricing this soon, realistically the earliest we can expect that will be E3. US$399 - $499 would be my guess.
For numerous reasons they're not going to flip flop and start charging for online multi. It sounds like PSWorld will flat out replace PS+, and add more features. Or it could be just an evolution of Home.
For numerous reasons they're not going to flip flop and start charging for online multi. It sounds like PSWorld will flat out replace PS+, and add more features. Or it could be just an evolution of Home.
strikeselect
You like me, you really really like me!
It makes sense that Sony wants to get in on the premium subscription money. Xbox Live has been a huge success.
$50 a year for PS Live Gold sounds about right.
$50 a year for PS Live Gold sounds about right.
$430 for a ps4 means i won't get one until 2015 at the earliest. even if it bombs, sony doesn't drop the price of their hardware because they'll have put so much stuff in there they won't be able to without losing a ton of cash.
i'd say durango, you're my only hope, but it'll probably be even worse. so my fingers are crossed for valve.
i'd say durango, you're my only hope, but it'll probably be even worse. so my fingers are crossed for valve.
The costs for maintaining their online infastructure and services must be massive. Why wouldn't they charge for it? The ps360 era saw big losses for both MS and Sony. It might just be time to finally make some money.
airmangataosenai
Member
The main reason I see this as unlikely is because no one has ever done such an odd number. There's a psychological aspect of pricing something at $100 rather than $110 for instance. This looks to me like someone misunderstanding currency rates.
Beer Monkey
Member
Why would they add the PS2 hardware when people are willing to pay a monthly fee for PS3 BC?
To take English 101 classes I hope because that's not what it said at all.
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All will be proven tomorrow and then when this rumor gets proven/disproven, everyone can have a good laugh.
Durango probably only going to be $30 difference at launch even with these prices I would have to guess. Can't really see a $299 option out the gate from MS.
Zombie James
Banned
Not leveraging smartphones and tablets in some way would be a huge mistake for anyone to make at this point. I remember a couple of years ago Phil Harrison (I think) demoed PSN on a phone but that never really panned out. If they could get network interaction (buying games, messaging) working on modern smartphones and tablets it would be very nice indeed.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
$429 is in line with my expectations, $529 is over them by a large margin and would need to offer something extremely attractive for me to consider.
As far as pay to play online goes, I'll react after I've seen what's on offer and at what price.
Still hyped, need to see some next-gen gaming goodness!
As far as pay to play online goes, I'll react after I've seen what's on offer and at what price.
Still hyped, need to see some next-gen gaming goodness!
So you dont like PS Plus?
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BobTheFork
Member
It's sad that simplay playing a game online is going to be barebonse, but Sony needs to give that to people for free and then offer more for a subscription
A PS+ like service that will offer discounts and games once the library fills out.
A PS+ like service that will offer discounts and games once the library fills out.
Uno Venova
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This thread is like the telephone game.
this console sounds terrible all of a sudden
PC is going to be the only platform that doesn't require dumbass gimmicks, PC it is
zomgbbqftw
Banned
It's actually pretty much exact with today's exchange rate. Which is why it's fake. 40,000 yen translates to $399. Before the price cut Vita was 24,990 which is $269, but vita is $249 in the US.
It is highly likely that this "source" just converted the yen price to USD and ran with it. If it is that superdae guy then it is definitely wrong.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Pleaaaaase be like this. Actually I don't even give a fuck about day 1 demos or streaming services, just have online MP free (and this is coming from a guy who has been PS+ subscriber for like a year now).
Pay to play is the absolute worst thing Sony could do. It is just bullshit. I hate how Kotaku rumor is destroying my hype even when the online part is vague as fuck
.Projectjustice
Banned
Theres goes the PSN free crutch out the window vs XBL people use around here. Good for Sony, MS is making so much money off live. It something they really needed to do with the way things have been going over with Sony.
Paid-for online multiplayer is a shitty proposition on Xbox and Playstation. If tehy extend this to charging to use Netflix and YouTube apps like Xbox Live does right now, it is a shitty policy. Goalposts aren't moving for me.
it'll probably be $399.99 plus a monthly fee for no good reason. kinect in the box guarantees it won't be under $399.99 for any launch sku, i think.
$429.99 is such a weird pricepoint. i wonder if that was a number that was derived from currency exchange, or if sony thought it wouldn't look as bad as $449.99.
MS were also smart at charging a cheap box and having cheap xbox live Gold 12 month and discounts on digital games
Thats what I ask earlier.
mysteriousmage09
Member
Are you stupid? You really think Sony announcing "pay to play online" after it being free for the greater good of a decade on the PS3 wouldn't cause a massive uproar and that people would have "NO PROBLEM paying for it"? Get fucking real.
I %100 doubt Sony will announce the price tomorrow, they will probably wait till E3 to announce it.
This is what I think as well...PS + is perfect,they give stuff away and the cheaper stuff make people buy those PSN cards,that have a fix amount,so when I want FFVII on PSN so I can play it on my Vita and it's on sale for 5 bucks,I still have 15 bucks left that I will spend,and possibly new features like you said.
Just for fun sake, here is the data I gathered from the last thread in regards to GAF's expectation on next-gen console price ceilings;
CoffeeJanitor
Member
Eh....Sounds bad man. Lol 530.
Castle Doctrine
Member
His shtick is to spread FUD in every thread. I have to give him credit for getting away with it for so long.
Cbajd5
Member
Wait, the PS4 will have a phone?
That'd actually be neat. Completely pointless, but neat.
The Living Tribunal
Member
What people like you seem to forget is that Sony is a charity, not a corporation. All they want is world peace.
See the future.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Yep, like I said, someone took the existing news/rumors and just spun them. I think we are being trolled.