bar mitzvah
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KS8000 settings for gaming at 4k/HDR
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Conveniently, I cannot see the product page anymore. It errors out with a "Sorry, but this offer is no longer valid."
CORRECTION - I was able to login. Who do I need to contact to get this refund?
Nihilistic Monk
Member
What's this now? Can anyone extrapolate?
TLZ
Banned
Apparently Dynamic Contrast in HDR is encouraged and doesn't negatively affect anything like it does SDR. Mine's set on low/medium as well and gamma raised to 2.
I put it in HDR+ plus mode and calibrated it.
Aztechnology
Member
Gamma 2 seems too bright. Like washed out. Is that the recommended setting for an appropriate 2.4 gamma curve?
HDR+ mode is for SDR content. It's basically a processing feature to try and recreate SDR as HDR. It's not advisable to use.
TLZ
Banned
I've no idea, but I changed mine to gamma 2 when watching Marco Polo and looked perfect
Aztechnology
Member
ManUnkindH
Member
From my knowledge, about 30% would be best on most TV sets. This is kinda weird.
But in 'Movie' mode, with the calibration settings for my TV that were posted in here, the picture looks washed out. I put HDR+ on and tweak the settings until I have a decent picture.
Does anyone know which USB port / ports are 5V 1A?
Thinking of buying some bias lighting that runs off USB and I wasn't sure if the port on the back of the TV or the ones on the mini connector box have enough juice to power it.
EDIT: Silly me. One of the USB ports on the connector box is labelled 5V 1A. The port on the back of the TV just says 'IoT Extend'. Does anyone know if that was is 5V 1A too?
Thinking of buying some bias lighting that runs off USB and I wasn't sure if the port on the back of the TV or the ones on the mini connector box have enough juice to power it.
EDIT: Silly me. One of the USB ports on the connector box is labelled 5V 1A. The port on the back of the TV just says 'IoT Extend'. Does anyone know if that was is 5V 1A too?
nogoodnamesleft
Banned
Should I buy this tv and replace my kuro?
vatstep
This poster pulses with an appeal so broad the typical restraints of our societies fall by the wayside.
I don't know what the difference is (I actually didn't realize there were USB ports on the One Connect box), but I use the rear panel USB port to power bias lighting with no issues.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Does the KS8000 require something like enchanced HDMI before you actually get 4k @ 60 like you do with the Sony XBR's?
Only enhancement, if that is the correct term here, is to turn on UHD colour to the relevant HDMI port.
Just got the KS7090 (Germany's equivalent of the KS8000 US/KS7000 UK) 55" set and very happy with the quality after some calibration. Coming from a 7 year old Bravia KDL40W5500 so definitely a major upgrade.
I'm using the rings settings (http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ks8000/settings) but with color tone warm1 and backlight set to 5 for non-HDR content.
However, the settings menu and HDR options are a freaking mess as others have pointed out. Took me a while to figure out the quirks of the menu to finally get HDR working right but now it's pretty darn awesome.
I do have some questions though:
1) Using built-in apps such as Netflix and Youtube do not seem to give me the "A HDR movie is playing" notice in the top left corner. Is this a known issue or does HDR not trigger correctly for content which definitely supports it? (e.g. Youtube HDR videos)
2) Samsung website says the latest firmware is 1150.7 - however my set is on 114x (don't remember the exact version) and does not find a newer version online. Can I safely update via USB?
3) Game Mode and HDR - the hassle to get this working properly is just ridiculous with the amount of manual tinkering which has to be done every time. Any easy ways/solutions to work around this? Do we know if Samsung is aware and working on a fix?
4) I'm using custom calibrated settings for white balance and color tone (rtings), will this result in full or limited range colors? I don't want to use the auto setting because I'd rather prefer the color calibrated settings which look phenomenal to me.
5) Apparently my Sony STR-DN860 AVR does not properly pass through 4K HDR so both PS4 Pro and Xbox One S need to be connected to the TV directly. This is a major pain in the ass for sound as the TV connect box apparently does not route back 7.1 PCM via ARC (it may be a limitation of the ARC specs) so the best I can get is lossy 5.1 DD/DTS via optical. Any AVR users out there facing the same dilemma? This is for a 2015 set, any chances of a firmware fix? The STR-DN860 supports 4K and HDCP 2.2, but can not pass through HDR for some reason.
All in all, I think I really like the set and HDR improvements for games are clearly visible. I just think that with all the troubles (manual tinkering for picture settings, AVR audio limitations for HDR) I should have waited a year or so until these quirks are fixed.
As amazing as HDR is, I can't help but think TV manufacturers are rushing it with weird settings, menu choices and HDMI spec limitations. It will take another year or two until HDR settles in and becomes a truly hassle-free experience for everyone.
I'm using the rings settings (http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ks8000/settings) but with color tone warm1 and backlight set to 5 for non-HDR content.
However, the settings menu and HDR options are a freaking mess as others have pointed out. Took me a while to figure out the quirks of the menu to finally get HDR working right but now it's pretty darn awesome.
I do have some questions though:
1) Using built-in apps such as Netflix and Youtube do not seem to give me the "A HDR movie is playing" notice in the top left corner. Is this a known issue or does HDR not trigger correctly for content which definitely supports it? (e.g. Youtube HDR videos)
2) Samsung website says the latest firmware is 1150.7 - however my set is on 114x (don't remember the exact version) and does not find a newer version online. Can I safely update via USB?
3) Game Mode and HDR - the hassle to get this working properly is just ridiculous with the amount of manual tinkering which has to be done every time. Any easy ways/solutions to work around this? Do we know if Samsung is aware and working on a fix?
4) I'm using custom calibrated settings for white balance and color tone (rtings), will this result in full or limited range colors? I don't want to use the auto setting because I'd rather prefer the color calibrated settings which look phenomenal to me.
5) Apparently my Sony STR-DN860 AVR does not properly pass through 4K HDR so both PS4 Pro and Xbox One S need to be connected to the TV directly. This is a major pain in the ass for sound as the TV connect box apparently does not route back 7.1 PCM via ARC (it may be a limitation of the ARC specs) so the best I can get is lossy 5.1 DD/DTS via optical. Any AVR users out there facing the same dilemma? This is for a 2015 set, any chances of a firmware fix? The STR-DN860 supports 4K and HDCP 2.2, but can not pass through HDR for some reason.
All in all, I think I really like the set and HDR improvements for games are clearly visible. I just think that with all the troubles (manual tinkering for picture settings, AVR audio limitations for HDR) I should have waited a year or so until these quirks are fixed.
As amazing as HDR is, I can't help but think TV manufacturers are rushing it with weird settings, menu choices and HDMI spec limitations. It will take another year or two until HDR settles in and becomes a truly hassle-free experience for everyone.
Just what I wanted to hear! Thank you.
Noboru Wataya
Banned
I have noticed that call of duty infinite warfare and modern warfare remastered don't support HDR. Even though everywhere states it should?
Wait, I'm not supposed to use color space: native for HDR content?
I use it right now for non-HDR content and the colors look great, just how I like them.
Colors also look good in HDR, but apparently I should be using auto?
I think the colors look really dull in non-hdr content with auto, but I guess thats my preference for saturation or popping colors.
I use it right now for non-HDR content and the colors look great, just how I like them.
Colors also look good in HDR, but apparently I should be using auto?
I think the colors look really dull in non-hdr content with auto, but I guess thats my preference for saturation or popping colors.
For video content the TV detects you are watching am hdr source and turns the backlight up to max which is appropriate for hdr. But if you have the TV in game mode (basically required because input latency is very high outside of game mode) it detects you have an hdr source but doesn't make any changes.
So everytime you play an hdr game you have to open the settings and turn backlight up. Then when you are done and want to play a non hdr game you have to open settings and turn it back to normal. every time..
In addition, many of us are finding we like dynamic contrast on for hdr but its terrible for sdr, so that's now another setting you have to change every time.
(Obviously if you are only playing an hdr game you can leave it on, when watching video you can switch it back to movie where it will autochange settings correct.)
Honestly, I could live with this,but also having to fix the audio out for every source (only a problem if you are using the TV to passthrough audio) is too much for me.
I'm planning on buying the KS7000 (UK) and have been following this thread, particularly with regard to changing settings for HDR.
One thing I have done with other TVs in the past is to use one picture mode (e.g. Standard) for certain types of games and then use another picture mode (e.g. Sports or Animation) with all the settings changed for other types of games. Typically since there is a scene/picture select button on the remote I can change pictures settings very quickly without going into the setting menus.
Obviously given I don't have the TV yet I can't try, and this may be a stupid post given the number of people who have this TV and I expect have already tried everything!!
One thing I have done with other TVs in the past is to use one picture mode (e.g. Standard) for certain types of games and then use another picture mode (e.g. Sports or Animation) with all the settings changed for other types of games. Typically since there is a scene/picture select button on the remote I can change pictures settings very quickly without going into the setting menus.
Obviously given I don't have the TV yet I can't try, and this may be a stupid post given the number of people who have this TV and I expect have already tried everything!!
Yeah, I also want it too
TLZ
Banned
This isn't an issue. The notification is for HDMI connected devices.
Using Native for SDR will look artificial. Auto is what should be used. If that floats your boat though then by all means.
I get crazy amounts of flicker on and off when I set the PC display to 4:4:4 or RGB to Full. Any one else having this issue?
The Amazon Basics cable is not good enough? It apparently claims to pass 18 GBPS and 4K @ 60 hz.
The Amazon Basics cable is not good enough? It apparently claims to pass 18 GBPS and 4K @ 60 hz.
Noboru Wataya
Banned
I tried watching Netflix HDR content through the tv app last night and I don't think it worked at all.
I loaded up daredevil season 2, it said HDR on the show title, my settings didn't bump up backlight to 20. I had my pc playing the same episode in SDR on the monitor next to the to and they looked identical.
Anyone else come across this?
I loaded up daredevil season 2, it said HDR on the show title, my settings didn't bump up backlight to 20. I had my pc playing the same episode in SDR on the monitor next to the to and they looked identical.
Anyone else come across this?
It is, but you could potentially have a faulty one.
Well I actually tried multiple cables it's not the cable. I have found an interesting curiosity. If I set the Nvidia Panel to 59 hz instead of 60 hz the flickering goes away. I'll test a little while longer before claiming everything is OK, but it seems to be scott free so far.
I hate to jump in this tread but what are the differences between
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E6BJRXE/?tag=neogaf0e-20
and
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DR4TD3K/?tag=neogaf0e-20
which has HDR10 and all that stuff?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E6BJRXE/?tag=neogaf0e-20
and
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DR4TD3K/?tag=neogaf0e-20
which has HDR10 and all that stuff?
And I bought the 65" for $2k after tax back in September 😭
Not a fan of dynamic contrast at all. After toggling,while playing games over past week. Just seems to brighten the entire picture. You lose some of the range in lighting on screen.
Personally though if you don't notice this, or in bright room go for it.
Just funny because when I got the tv nothing looked right without setting on.
Now nothing looks right unless off.
TLZ
Banned
I know from 2 reasons; when I play an HDR movie/show, say Daredevil, and then go into expert settings, it'll show me a different settings I'd have set for HDR when watching Daredevil, Marco Polo etc. Stop that and watch a SDR program, go into settings and it'll show me a different set I'd have done for SDR. The other way is when change colour space from Native to Auto in HDR it shows more color. Doing so in SDR gives me less color.
I wish there was an easier way like showing us HDR when pressing the info button but it doesn't. If you know of a better way let me know.
I copied all my calibrated SDR settings (using movie mode) to HDR playback with the only difference being the backlight auto-adjusted to 20 (max) in HDR mode. I can't confirm this right now, but this does not appear to be happening for me when using the Youtube or Netflix apps (with HDR content, ofc).
kind of weird.....I know on my X800D if I go into the picture settings it shows a grey HDR box telling you that HDR is currently active for the material on the screen.
such a simple thing.....you think all you would have to do is hit the display info button and when it shows you the res you get an HDR icon next to it.
I don't believe they support HDR. Where are you seeing that stated?
If you "re-select" an HDMI source, it will show you display info such as resolution, refresh rate and HDR, but there is no such option for the TVs internal smart hub.
Sleeping Lesson
Member
So after being underwhelmed by the HDR in Daredevil (not even certain it's working) and Marco Polo, I checked out some of Mozart in the Jungle on Amazon Prime. The show itself is garbage, but I immediately recognized the quality of the colors.
Netflix needs to get their HDR stuff in order because it's a mess right now.
Netflix needs to get their HDR stuff in order because it's a mess right now.
well thats goofy lol
Watch Goliath on Amazon next. I really liked the show, and it has the best HDR streaming I've seen.
What are your settings for HDR+ ?
Sleeping Lesson
Member
Will do! One thing Netflix has going for it is you can easily search for HDR content (or at least what they claim is HDR). On Amazon, there's no way to view HDR content other than to play stuff and check. At least it says HDR in the player, something Netflix doesn't.
8bitForLife
Member
hate to be that guy but are invite to epp working again and could I get one? if not sorry for the post
shinobi602
Member
Can anyone please screencap the price for the 60"?
I got it for $1054.99 using EPP and if the 65" is down to $1079.99, the 60" should definitely be lower. Would love to get that $200 refunded...
I got it for $1054.99 using EPP and if the 65" is down to $1079.99, the 60" should definitely be lower. Would love to get that $200 refunded...
Slackbladder
Member
So I plugged my PC straight into my KS7500 (8500 US) and Game Mode is greyed out. No setting on the PC changes it. Changing the name on the source does allow Game Mode. Word of warning: the name can be reset sometimes randomly, or maybe when the PC is on when you start the TV. Also changing settings on the PC like going from 4:2:0 to 4:4:4 can reset the input name. It's very annoying.
Just something to keep an eye on.
Just something to keep an eye on.
Clockwork
Member
So after much deliberation I decided to order the 65" KS8000 using my discount through work. At $1079 it was just too good of a deal to pass up.
This will be going in the man cave and my 50" 2014 Vizio P-series will be going in the regular living room.
I hope I am not disappointed by the lack of FALD.
This will be going in the man cave and my 50" 2014 Vizio P-series will be going in the regular living room.
I hope I am not disappointed by the lack of FALD.