• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

Large Youtubers Hide Ownership of CSGO Lottery Site

Status
Not open for further replies.
I like how in this guys twitter apology to the H3 video his main concern isn't that he is encouraging all his young 13 year old fans and players of CS GO to gamble but that he made sure what he's doing is legal. Priorities yo.
 

Fat4all

Banned
Yeah I assume a lot of GAF hasn't bothered with the gambling stuff - me included. Everyone talks about skins and game betting but I just enjoy the game haha

I bets there's a ton of parents with kids who maxed out their cards over this site. Something gonna give for sure.
 

Fat4all

Banned
Heh, I just noticed that this video was the first to have the FUPA disclaimer at the beginning.

Good Job, Ethan. Keep it up, proud of you.
 

RawNuts

Member
Man, this guy is really gonna try and positivity his way out of this. I wonder if this is a new social media shitstorm contingency plan for youtubers.

"Everything's alright dude. Love ya, bro"
c4jt321.jpg


Let's see how long he can keep his stoicism going.
 

hamchan

Member
I like how in this guys twitter apology to the H3 video his main concern isn't that he is encouraging all his young 13 year old fans and players of CS GO to gamble but that he made sure what he's doing is legal. Priorities yo.

TBH Valve is the main source of encouraging young gambling in their games by offering $2.50 mystery boxes with a chance to win a $200 knife in the first place. All the gambling sites are just an extension of that mentality.
 

pompidu

Member
Valve is more casino then game company, shit like this isn't surprising either. Valve artificially controls the prices of most of their items by making scarcity of items (especially in dota2).
 

UberTag

Member
Are they? Or will it be like most other shitstorms similar to this and most will forget about it in a week or less?
Perhaps Dr. Phil's crew can find some parents who had to mortgage their homes because of their kids bankrupting them on CSGOLotto.com.
He can make examples out of both the neglectful parents and the scammers who own the site and encouraged their kids to gamble in a 2-for-1 sting.

Frankly, this isn't the kind of "shitstorm" that should be allowed to fizzle out so folks can simply change their names, throw up some disclaimers and continue their profiteering unabated. Only banks get to enjoy that kind of reprieve.
 
This. Especially when every one of those tweets can be saved and potentially used against him. He shouldn't be talking, publicly...like at all in any fashion without a lawyer.

He's an idiot. Every single tweet he's making now as well as the ones he's made over the past year have been saved by Internet avengers who want to bring him down.
 

SZips

Member
This isn't going away. People might forget but will the law? IANAL but it's pretty clear cut that this shit is illegal.

I guess we'll see if something actually comes from it or not. It'll be a long way out if it actually does come to that.
 

HariKari

Member
I guess we'll see if something actually comes from it or not. It'll be a long way out if it actually does come to that.

This is one of the few areas where the feds and regulatory agencies like to drop the hammer. I don't think they realize the gravity of the situation.
 

McDougles

Member
Halfway through one of ProSyndicate's videos for CSGOLOTTO (linked in the H3H3 description box) has TmarTn come in and wager against ProSyndicate, yet he acts like it's a random occurrence.

https://youtu.be/-f6OFbaGf9I?t=6m23s

"...All of a sudden, a wild motherfucking TmarTn is appearing to try and take my skins."
 

Wedge7

Member
Awesome video, love the H3H guys.

So infuriating how slimy those 2 CS:GO guys were, love how blatantly he was caught in his own little lies.
 

diablos991

Can’t stump the diablos
I can't wait for legislation to control these lottery style mechanics in games.

This stuff is targeted toward children and habit forming. It's sickening.
 
I'm not quite sure I feel comfortable giving any money to Valve knowing they let this shit happen, and encourage underage gambling. I might consider boycotting them.
 
Sure wouldn't mind a class action lawsuit based on money spent on cases.

There have been a ton of lawsuits about this exact same thing aimed at sports cards, trading cards (Magic, Pokemon, etc.) and various other "box break" collectables which have been distributed to minors for decades.

And nothing ever comes of them. Wizards of the Coast, for example, does not place a value on the cards they produce and package. You pay money with the knowledge that you are going to receive a random distribution of trading cards that have no defined value.

Likewise, Valve does not put a dollar value on skins, and their official policy is that they have no real-world value at all. There's no legal case here.
 
There have been a ton of lawsuits about this exact same thing aimed at sports cards, trading cards (Magic, Pokemon, etc.) and various other "box break" collectables which have been distributed to minors for decades.

And nothing ever comes of them. Wizards of the Coast, for example, does not place a value on the cards they produce and package. You pay money with the knowledge that you are going to receive a random distribution of trading cards that have no defined value.

Likewise, Valve does not put a dollar value on skins, and their official policy is that they have no real-world value at all. There's no legal case here.

"Our official policy is that these digital items have no real-world value at all. Oh, by the way, if you're looking to sell one of these digital items that have no real-world value at all, feel free to use our Steam marketplace for such transactions."
 
"Our official policy is that these digital items have no real-world value at all. Oh, by the way, if you're looking to sell one of these digital items that have no real-world value at all, feel free to use our Steam marketplace for such transactions."

Steam bucks aren't real-world money.
 

TheYanger

Member
"Our official policy is that these digital items have no real-world value at all. Oh, by the way, if you're looking to sell one of these digital items that have no real-world value at all, feel free to use our Steam marketplace for such transactions."

This. It's very different when Valve is also taking cuts of you reselling every single one of those items, they run the marketplace and are directly encouraged to make them valuable.
Steam bucks aren't real-world money.
They just use real world denotations, and trade at a 1:1 ratio with real world currency...that'll totally fly.
 
There have been a ton of lawsuits about this exact same thing aimed at sports cards, trading cards (Magic, Pokemon, etc.) and various other "box break" collectables which have been distributed to minors for decades.

And nothing ever comes of them. Wizards of the Coast, for example, does not place a value on the cards they produce and package. You pay money with the knowledge that you are going to receive a random distribution of trading cards that have no defined value.

Likewise, Valve does not put a dollar value on skins, and their official policy is that they have no real-world value at all. There's no legal case here.
Online gambling in the US is illegal, no?
 

HariKari

Member
Likewise, Valve does not put a dollar value on skins, and their official policy is that they have no real-world value at all. There's no legal case here.

They get a cut of every transaction, and help facilitate the transactions. That's a lot more involved in the process than a company selling you a booster pack, or you buying a card from a reseller.
 

M.W.

Member
I like how in this guys twitter apology to the H3 video his main concern isn't that he is encouraging all his young 13 year old fans and players of CS GO to gamble but that he made sure what he's doing is legal. Priorities yo.

His name isn't Tsmartn
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom