I don't think he gets how badly he's fucked up here. He should be talking with his lawyer to see how bad this is and not making twitter post.
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Large Youtubers Hide Ownership of CSGO Lottery Site
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I don't think he gets how badly he's fucked up here. He should be talking with his lawyer to see how bad this is and not making twitter post.
Internet law has a looooong way to go, shit is still the wild west
Good. It's time for Valve to own up.
You're right. They should, but will this still be the big story in a day or so? You know how this internet shit is. Will people not care?
Either way you're right. They still need to report on it because it's a thing that's happening and they are taking advantage of people.
Aztechnology
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The problem is nothing gets done unless you go after the people who can prevent it or enact legitimate change. It's why having a rule that stops suits, especially class action law suits against gun manufacturers for producing high capacity magazines, semi auto weapons etc is so problematic. Valve needs to be the target so they close the loopholes and make it so these websites cannot be run. Or it simply becomes a cycle of new gambling sites.
Yeah I sent this thread to Jason and Patrick
This is the ethics in gaming we need.
Reallink
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http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1238650
Think the premise is they create and maintain the systems that enable this kind of shit in the first place.
The video is doing well on Reddit too
7DollarHagane
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I'd really be amazed if any of the Csgo lottery or gambling sites weren't rigged.
Lounge seems like the closest to legit since it's real matches in real legitimate events.
But then there's those z-tier Russian matches that aren't streamed
Lounge seems like the closest to legit since it's real matches in real legitimate events.
But then there's those z-tier Russian matches that aren't streamed
When did Gabe turn into Walter White? The beard? How much money does he need? This is shameful what he did to TF2 and CS:GO.
But that's such a boring way to deal with issues nowadays; get with the times, grandpa!
This. Especially when every one of those tweets can be saved and potentially used against him. He shouldn't be talking, publicly...like at all in any fashion without a lawyer.
nephilimdj
Member
They expanded their API to allow this, there was no reason to allow this to happen compared to those old TF2 backpack sites
Valve just lost to the Australian goverment, most of the world could sue Valve over this. Even more reason why Valve need a proper community manager to know what is happening in its communities rather then have 2-3 employees on reddit once a week
Hidden One
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Looking at this scumbags twitter replies is pissing me off. He's acting like nothing has happened.
The people who were scammed are the ones who have to file the FTC complaints.
I just looked at the FTC complaint site, and you have to describe how etc etc scammed you, you can't represent another individual.
Darryl M R
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This should be making big headlines soon. I wonder if Youtubers are pushing to set up a video before the 4th.
Also if a mod would remove the unnecessary s in Hides for the title. Little grammar mistake.
Yep, same here. I learned a new thing today. I hope the government looks into this.
MR BLACKMAGIK
Member
I never knew anything about this, crazy. Very informative video.
He really believes it. He believes since he went back and updated shit that he's cool. He really doesn't know how much he fucked up. He also probably thinks nothing will happen at all.
He really shouldn't be talking publicly because ALL this shit can be used against him. He can't feign ignorance.
What loopholes? The ability of using trading on steam? I'd rather keep that instead of having it disabled because of fuckwits that should be sued by themselves. It's like trying to go after Wizards of the Coast because people can use their cards for betting on something. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Mechanized
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The fact that he went back and updated all his videos with a warning about the CS Lotto website, as if nobody will know it wasn't there before, goes to show he doesn't have a fucking clue at all. He is in for a rude awakening.
Apoleptica
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The guy is covering his tracks already lol, blatantly keeping his ownership of csgo lotto a secret.
Mechanized
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My understanding is that Valve is leaving the floodgates open, when they could easily close them and prevent this from happening.
They make money on the keys, and they get a percentage every time a skin is sold.
It's a lot of dosh.
The guy is covering his tracks already lol, blatantly keeping his ownership of csgo lotto a secret.
lmao
"This will fix everything"
Valve lost in a suit about refunds, which have literally nothing to do with this.
To "close" the floodgates, they would have to severely limit or kill steam trading. Which would be as dumb as making Wizards of the Coast having to make something to prevent people from use the cards they bought on whatever they want.
"We" don't, unfortunately. But I'm sure there are people out there seriously considering a class-action suit who were swayed by their bullshit videos, and that's not even counting what the FTC might do.
styl3s
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Wasn't there a big scandal awhile back about match fixing/throwing games and pro players sandbagging and being caught gambling on those games? Pretty sure some people got into some shit over that.
He's essentially conditioned himself into illusions and delusions.
His lens of perception is flawed, and everyone outside of him sees this.
The whole CSGO skin gambling community always seemed crazy to me. Like the idea that there would be so much gambling going on with video game cosmetics is crazy enough on it's own. And on top of that the (what seems like) complete disregard for laws and regulations and the rampant underage gambling.
I've always wondered when the powers that be would finally step in and put an end to this nonsense, and it seems like that might be happening soon?
I've always wondered when the powers that be would finally step in and put an end to this nonsense, and it seems like that might be happening soon?
Yeah I assume a lot of GAF hasn't bothered with the gambling stuff - me included. Everyone talks about skins and game betting but I just enjoy the game haha
littleworm
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Yeah it was a pretty big deal too, one of the teams was one of the premier NA cs teams. Those that were implicated received life time bans from valve sponsored events.
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