Super_Chicken
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Why can't a patch solve this issue and anyone who has an original can swap, for free, to get an updated version of the game. I wonder how much money this is going to cost sony and MM.
cjelly said:Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, I hope the rest of this thread isn't going to be like this...
Super_Chicken said:Why can't a patch solve this issue and anyone who has an original can swap, for free, to get an updated version of the game. I wonder how much money this is going to cost sony and MM.
dark steve said:I was having a poor day until this thread, but now I have a smile on my face.
:lol :lolPonn01 said:I'm voting McCain now.
Count Dookkake said:That's a good line. Original?
I find it amazing that this country was founded upon the backs of people seeking freedom from religious persecution and has now degenerated into a nation where the people persecute those with religion just because they disagree with it.
you cant play online. Servers are not up. Will not be up until release probably...Len1978 said:hehe I picked up a copy at a local Blockbuster here in Tucson, I got real lucky and found a store with a cool manager will post pics in a minute. Psn id is same as gaf
Freedom = $1.05 said:The absence of mods in this thread is disturbing. Some of you guys take this shit way too seriously, no matter the side you're on.
Sony decided to delay the game a WEEK. Some of you have been waiting well over a year for this. Can't you just wait 6 more days w/o acting so childishly?
I expect better things from Gaf.
Ponn01 said:What "racial" lyrics? From what I read they weren't racial just "religious sensitive". They are a company, they have to do what they have to do to avoid scandal or being sued BUT the jackass whistle-blowing on this could have held off just a week. JUST A WEEK!!!!
Ponn01 said:I'm voting McCain now.
AbortedWalrusFetus said:The fact of the matter is that no one is condemning that choice, just condemning the people who the choice was made to benefit. THAT is the persecution.
Death_Born said:Actually the pilgrims wanted to set up a religious community, not flee persecution. People left and established the 2nd colony after it became too strict for them.
Super_Chicken said:Why can't a patch solve this issue and anyone who has an original can swap, for free, to get an updated version of the game. I wonder how much money this is going to cost sony and MM.
AbortedWalrusFetus said:You have all the freedom in the world from it. The choice was Sony's to make and they made it.
The fact of the matter is that no one is condemning that choice, just condemning the people who the choice was made to benefit. THAT is the persecution.
dak1dsk1 said:Imagine me not giving a shit about your religious sensitivities. Your warped religous rules does not apply in the western world. Keep your fundamentalist beliefs to your islamic nations, and embrace the enlightened secular society you live in.
kaching said:Sony is making the right choice by respecting that copyright.
Well I definitely have the original version. I just never knew they changed it in later versions.Sage00 said:
gofreak said:No, he's every right to be offended by it if he wants. I'm not saying we should round up people who get religiously offended and have them shipped to an island, or something.
But he shouldn't impose that on others. He's imposing it first and foremost on MM (whose choice this was not), and Sony, who're only conceding this point because of how certain religious groups have reacted to offense in the past.
If the game was released as was, no one's 'freedom' was being trampled on. Now, MM's creative freedom is, and the rest of us have to wait longer for the game (albeit, hopefully, only for a week). But it's the principle that matters.
Wurm said:I literally cannot believe someone with the tag "NSider" is responsible for a multi-million set-back and week delay to one of the most original and incredible titles ever created. I cast a glance over a post history of Smash Brothers and Wii threads and its like some sort of insane conspiracy.
GAF should hold some little competition where the winner receives NSider's copy of the game or something. It seems insane that the person responsible will be continuing to enjoy the game (or maybe not the 2nd world you overly sensitive git) while people that have been looking forward to the game for a year+ are out in the cold.
I'm so glad I got a copy of the game, because I imagine I would be vomiting blood and fire at this point had I not.
gofreak said:No, he's every right to be offended by it if he wants. I'm not saying we should round up people who get religiously offended and have them shipped to an island, or something.
But he shouldn't impose that on others. He's imposing it first and foremost on MM (whose choice this was not), and Sony, who're only conceding this point because of how certain religious groups have reacted to offense in the past.
If the game was released as was, no one's 'freedom' was being trampled on. Now, MM's creative freedom is, and the rest of us have to wait longer for the game (albeit, hopefully, only for a week). But it's the principle that matters.
AbortedWalrusFetus said:I find it amazing that this country was founded upon the backs of people seeking freedom from religious persecution and has now degenerated into a nation where the people persecute those with religion just because they disagree with it.
MThanded said:you cant play online. Servers are not up. Will not be up until release probably...
yea I know I'm so glad just to get this game, How long does the single player last?
matticus said:I just got a "Policy Changes" e-mail from Sony. Is this related? The e-mail links to HERE.
Igo said:Are people really so dense that they can't understand why Sony made this decision? Firstly it's obvious they don't want the bad publicity that may arise from this situation. And here's where I think the people on this board have really lost the plot. People keep suggesting that it should be the Muslims who avoid the game but why - and I really want to scream this in bold but i'll resist - Why on earth would Sony want a potentially large group of people to avoid their game and possibly other future products in the larger Sony conglomerate.
Igo said:Would the situation have been any different if the one of the songs lyrics contained phrases that may have offended those of Japanese decent?
Wurm said:I literally cannot believe someone with the tag "NSider" is responsible for a multi-million set-back and week delay to one of the most original and incredible titles ever created. I cast a glance over a post history of Smash Brothers and Wii threads and its like some sort of insane conspiracy.
GAF should hold some little competition where the winner receives NSider's copy of the game or something. It seems insane that the person responsible will be continuing to enjoy the game (or maybe not the 2nd world you overly sensitive git) while people that have been looking forward to the game for a year+ are out in the cold.
I'm so glad I got a copy of the game, because I imagine I would be vomiting blood and fire at this point had I not.
distrbnce said:Verbal persecution is quite different than the religious persecution you're speaking of. You'd do well to realize that.
And when some silly religion intrudes on my happiness (in any form) me singing free speech seems the kindest of justified reactions.
I wasn't really talking about anything holding up in court, just simply the point of basic respect between a pair of rights holders. We're talking about specific phrases taking from the Qur'an, rather than some more arbitrary offense. I'm willing to acknowledge their claim on the basis of the presence of a deliberately created work. It's no different from what any IP holder like Sony would want for their copyrighted creations, and does their best to enforce.gofreak said:I don't think that would hold up in a court. I don't believe anyone holds copyright to the Quran, I don't see how that'd be possible.
They claim ownership of other words and gets antsy about their use too. Same way other religions do with words like 'marriage' etc.
So no, I still see it as made-up, albeit, old, arbitrary rules that some people are forcing on others. It gets a pass because it's 'religion', something people would laugh at if it was classed as anything else.
AbortedWalrusFetus said:I'm not really talking about the actions taken, I'm talking about the general sentiment. If someone has a religious belief and it offends them, heaven forbid them saying something about it or trying to do something about it.
kaching said:I wasn't really talking about anything holding up in court, just simply the point of basic respect between a pair of rights holders. We're talking about specific phrases taking from the Qur'an, rather than some more arbitrary offense. I'm willing to acknowledge their claim on the basis of the presence of a deliberately created work. It's no different from what any IP holder like Sony would want for their copyrighted creations, and does their best to enforce.
matticus said:Actually, this stuff sounds kind of like HOME prep. Maybe it's coming soon ... unless Nsider has anything to say about it.
Flek said:or better why couldnt ouer friend wait with his complain until 2 days after the release than sony didnt had the chance to pull it.
also is it going to get pulled in middle east too ?
If anything this thread shows me why he is currently not winning by a landslide even though he should be.DSWii60 said:This thread just reminded me why I don't come to the Gaming side any more. This thread also explained to me exactly why Obama is winning by a landslide over in the States. This thread also reminded me of all the hateful, intolerant people still present in this world. This thread also reminded me how selfish people can be. This thread reminded me why the world is in the state it's in.
TwinIonEngines said:Just because they have the right to complain does not make the complaining a morally correct action.
m0dus said:But clearly, Sony is worried about alienating part of its audience and potential buyers.
Freedom = $1.05 said:The absence of mods in this thread is disturbing. Some of you guys take this shit way too seriously, no matter the side you're on.
Sony decided to delay the game a WEEK. Some of you have been waiting well over a year for this. Can't you just wait 6 more days w/o acting so childishly?
I expect better things from Gaf.
kaching said:I wasn't really talking about anything holding up in court, just simply the point of basic respect between a pair of rights holders. We're talking about specific phrases taking from the Qur'an, rather than some more arbitrary offense. I'm willing to acknowledge their claim on the basis of the presence of a deliberately created work. It's no different from what any IP holder like Sony would want for their copyrighted creations, and does their best to enforce.
MThanded said:If anything this thread shows me why he is currently not winning by a landslide. Ignorance is bliss.