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Media Create Sales 5/19 - 5/25
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
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EDIT: Meant to write as a PM. (need more sleep)
As for the shortness of threads, it's just a boring time of the year. Look at the sales, no one is buying anything. Not much to say.
Post one: Looks like Wii Fit and Monster Hunter are selling.
Post two: yep
Post three: PS3 not doing so good.
Post four: nope
Post five: I disagree it's selling fine for an expensive system.
Post six: You moron.
Post seven: [Graphs]
Post Eight: Hey, what happened to post 5 guy?
Post Nine: Obscure francise is sop great, why don't people buy it.
Post ten: What day are new numbers!?
As for the shortness of threads, it's just a boring time of the year. Look at the sales, no one is buying anything. Not much to say.
Post one: Looks like Wii Fit and Monster Hunter are selling.
Post two: yep
Post three: PS3 not doing so good.
Post four: nope
Post five: I disagree it's selling fine for an expensive system.
Post six: You moron.
Post seven: [Graphs]
Post Eight: Hey, what happened to post 5 guy?
Post Nine: Obscure francise is sop great, why don't people buy it.
Post ten: What day are new numbers!?
Cheesemeister
Member
PM, then. =P
dead souls
Member
Vinnk said:
:lol
Oh shit, this generation is never going to start then.
The multiplayer portion of Famicom Wars was tacked on in the GBA incarnation. The meat of the game is the puzzle-like campaign and extra maps.justchris said:
However, what the western market was buying was a TBS, so IntSys tried to move that way. Balance of units and maps in general are pretty evident that they don't really know how to make a good TBS game.
But they do make the most awesome puzzle games, though!
Cheesemeister
Member
Apparently I'm supposed to chuck some bread out a window or something.
PantherLotus said:Media Create Sales: 5/19 - 5/25
This is the WiiS3 ratio over the last 6 weeks:
5.95
5.36
7.03
8.36
5.40
5.41
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Lifetime: 2.95
Market Share Gains & Losses:
[ ] 360: - 0.02
[ ] PS3: - 0.06
[ ] Wii: + 0.08
If this week repeated forever:
[ ] The Wii would reach 70.00% on 06-08-08 <---2 weeks!
[ ] The PS3 would fall to 23.00% by 08-17-08
[ ] The 360 would fall to 6.00% by 11-23-08
Year-on-year tracking
Wii: -146.984
PS3: -26.508
Notes and Next Week's Expectations
Take notes kids. This might be as good as I ever get.
Estimated for last week - Actual = Difference
Wii: 48.0k - 49.0k = -1.0k
PS3: 8.2k - 9.0k = -0.8k
360: 1.5k - 1.9k = -0.4k
==============
Total units off: 2,200 <--- Y HELL OH THAR
Next Week:
Wii: 53.5k
PS3: 8.8k
360: 1.5k
edwardslane
Member
nice post above me with charts n such! interesting to read.
Wii is dominating.
Wii is dominating.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Vinnk said:
It will be like drinking at your regular bar on St. Patrick's day. You'll get a bunch of weekend warriors that pop in, make a snide comment then are never heard from again... well, maybe until FFXIII.
Agent Icebeezy
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OldJadedGamer said:
It will be interesting to say the least.
nextgeneration
Member
Vinnk said:
Agreed - it's going to be epic no matter which way it goes. I'm expecting ps3 to outsell the wii during Metal Gear's first and probably second week of its release. After that, wii will be back on top, as I don't expect Metal Gear to be able to carry ps3 for an extended period of time. We'll see, though. Stranger things have happened. Who would've thought that Monster Hunter would single handedly carried psp sales for such a long period of time.
OldJadedGamer
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nextgeneration said:
Metal Gears have never really been that super hot in Japan from what I remember. Will it take the crown of best selling game away from Hot Shots Golf???? Even DMC4 couldn't do that.
Agent Icebeezy
Welcome beautful toddler, Madison Elizabeth, to the horde!
Does anybody have an LTD for the MGS franchise in Japan?
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Vinnk said:
Best post of the thread :lol
Well he's right - Campaigns in GBA AWs(I haven't seen NDS ones so I can't say there) are 100% puzzle games. Which doesn't take away from fun factor - but it's a kind of a rude surprise for anyone that comes into them expecting strategy.HK-47 said:
As for SRPG/TBS distinction - I think it's pretty clear lines are blurry on that. Eg. XCom could be classified as SRPG by most standards applied to classic SRPGs, but I never seen anyone call it that.
In the end it probably doesn't matter - except for when people dismiss a good game due to wrong classification :\
Phife Dawg
Member
Sega basically said in their last financial report that licensed software is the way to go for the western side of things.Pachael said:
At least we have the significant revision for the Japanese market, I guess parts of the Platinum Games deal are included, so that's a good direction I guess.SEGA said:
So lots of the old turn-based strategy games on PC were SRPGs at heart? OK...bmf said:
I think to be considered an RPG it has to have a role-playing aspect. Sure you play a CO but he/she is not represented on the battlefield and the units are not personalized. As opposed to a game like Langrisser for instance where you too have an army to control but also the generals that lead these armies into war.
An increase of 1,3k can hardly considered a "bump". It's statistical noise.dolemite said:
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
More than 40 titles released...
First day sales
NDS Mugen no Frontier: Super Robot Taisen OG Saga - 67.000 (>60% sell through)
PSP Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu Portable 3 - 60.000 (>60% sell through)
PS2 Da Capo II Plus Situation - 25.000 (70% LE, 30% NE)
PS2 Mana Khemia 2: Ochita Gakuen to Renkinjutsushi Tachi - 20.000 (80% NE, 20% LE)
PSP Clannad - 20.000
PSP Valhalla Knights 2 - 20.000 (exceeds previous one)
40-60% sell through for this titles:
360 Lost Planet Colonies - 10.000
PS3 Rainbow Six Vegas 2 - 10.000
PS2 beatmania II DX 14 GOLD - 10.000
And now the tanking part...
NDS Front Mission 2089: Border of Madness - 10.000 (20% sell through)
WII Family Trainer - 10.000
PS3 Battle Fantasia - 2.000 (20-30% sell through)
360 Battle Fantasia - 1.500 (20-30% sell through)
PS3 Turok - 2.000
360 Overlord - 2.000
PSP Memories Off - Not countable
NDS 13-Sai no Hello Work DS - Not countable
NDS English of the Dead - Not countable
PSP Pawapuro 3 does about 330% last entry numbers. I hope I got everything right...
First day sales
NDS Mugen no Frontier: Super Robot Taisen OG Saga - 67.000 (>60% sell through)
PSP Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu Portable 3 - 60.000 (>60% sell through)
PS2 Da Capo II Plus Situation - 25.000 (70% LE, 30% NE)
PS2 Mana Khemia 2: Ochita Gakuen to Renkinjutsushi Tachi - 20.000 (80% NE, 20% LE)
PSP Clannad - 20.000
PSP Valhalla Knights 2 - 20.000 (exceeds previous one)
40-60% sell through for this titles:
360 Lost Planet Colonies - 10.000
PS3 Rainbow Six Vegas 2 - 10.000
PS2 beatmania II DX 14 GOLD - 10.000
And now the tanking part...
NDS Front Mission 2089: Border of Madness - 10.000 (20% sell through)
WII Family Trainer - 10.000
PS3 Battle Fantasia - 2.000 (20-30% sell through)
360 Battle Fantasia - 1.500 (20-30% sell through)
PS3 Turok - 2.000
360 Overlord - 2.000
PSP Memories Off - Not countable
NDS 13-Sai no Hello Work DS - Not countable
NDS English of the Dead - Not countable
PSP Pawapuro 3 does about 330% last entry numbers. I hope I got everything right...
milanbaros
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Anybody have yearly xbox and xbox360 mediacreate sales?
PSP is selling really well but if part of it has to be the drop off in ds sales. I think I remember the PSP doing 30k+ but nothing looked good when the ds was doing 150k+.
PSP is selling really well but if part of it has to be the drop off in ds sales. I think I remember the PSP doing 30k+ but nothing looked good when the ds was doing 150k+.
Magicpaint
Member
Pretty impressive. When was the last one released for the PSP? I think the PSP sales surge is having a real positive effect on software sales; new software just needs to be there!Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Phife Dawg
Member
Thanks. Pretty impressive for Pawapuro. Everything else pretty much as expected, will be interesting to see if Wii Family Trainer (that's the one with the mat, right?) will have some casual game style legs but with the balance board already filling the role of "on-the-ground-peripheral" I doubt it.Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Too bad about Front Mission and EotD.
EGM confirmed that in the Splatterhouse issue:Aeris130 said:
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3167518
By that definition Heroes Series, Warlords Series, Master Of Magic, Age Of Wonders series, and a milion others all become "SRPGs".Phife Dawg said:
It's easy to see that the two categories have significant overlap, and most of the distinction comes from game platform origins, rather then some arbitrary definition.
If I just go by observing GAF, people that grew up on consoles stick "SRPG" to anything that's turn based and has a tactical element, and people that grew up on PCs (not just IBM PCs) stick "TBS" to the exact same games.
Phife Dawg
Member
Well I grew up on PCs but I would definetly consider the later HoMM games SRPGs for instance.Fafalada said:
I didn't want to make a definition for the term SRPG anyways, just countering the point the other guy made about having cutscenes/story + TBS = SRPG. The criteria I posted is the lowest common denominator for SRPGs in my opinion, therefore AW is not an SRPG for me. Langrisser I would consider an SRPG, although it does contain elements of TBS (recruiting troops) but at the heart it's still an RPG.
Anyways, you're of course right when you say both categories overlap. But even so, AW doesn't fit the bill "SRPG" either way you slice it, which was the point I was trying to bring across.
Didn't GG Wii sell equally bad? That still got an english release. Maybe not all hope is lost for you.Aeris130 said:
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
5th April last year, this year edition was delayed though (it was supposed to come just before Golden Week). Something to note by the way, Pawapuro 2 PSP did 27k first week and 100k LTD. The first one also had good legs (38k first week, 150k LTD).Magicpaint said:
To put into perspective, since 2003, only the main PS2 entries (11,12,13,14) and the first PS2 Major League sold better than this first day in their first week.
Btw, PSP seemed to handle well its 3 important releases this week, it'll be interesting to see if software pulls hardware up (of course I mean other software than MHP2G).
Oh I totally agree there - I got irritated when people called R-Type Command SRPG as well. It's not so much the label as just the fact that putting an image of classic SRPGs(Disgaea etc.) on a pure tactics game is well... derisive of the said tactics game.Phife Dawg said:
Most(well, those that I played) SRPGs can be won PURELY by leveling up and brute forcing - with using NO strategy gameplay of any kind (this is largely true of HOMM games as well, although 'level up' includes purchasing larger armies).
This is obviously not the case of AW, R-Type, Nectaris or any really tactical games, which is my reason for not liking to lump them under the same label.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Gee whiz I wonder why Family Trainer didn't do so hot? Might it be because no one wants a stupid mat when they already have the Wii Balance Board?
They already knew it was going to be a fucking dumb idea, too, but they released it anyway.
They already knew it was going to be a fucking dumb idea, too, but they released it anyway.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Edit: double post. Oh well, I'll add some content...
Just as the PSP consistently sold 8-15k per week, ... uh... wait...?
indie85 said:
Just as the PSP consistently sold 8-15k per week, ... uh... wait...?
Mama Robotnik
Member
indie85 said:
There's absolutely no evidence to enforce that position. Optimism and wishful thinking do, as of yet, not constitute evidence.
As is GAF tradition....
The Innocent X
Banned
indie85 said:
Somebody tag this guy.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
indie85 said:
1) Larger franchises than MGS have already launched on the PS3 to no avail. MGS4 will do the standard 280-400k that all the big PS3 games have done, maybe more because of the major effort to push bundles, but it won't hit the 800k that MGS games did on PS2, and it won't move millions of consoles.
2) "Monster Truck" is Wii exclusive on consoles (and not even a big hit on the consoles). They also don't love PSP games, at all. After the "Monster Truck" games, only four games have broken 300k; Crisis Core, Hot Shots Golf, Metal Gear Solid, and Final Fantasy Tactics. One of those has already fizzled on the PS3, one is about to launch, FFT is now a handheld franchise, and if there is going to be an FF7 remake I can't imagine it'll be coming any time soon, and certainly not soon enough to reverse a trend that's been locked down in solid steel since day one.
3) $200 isn't going to happen for many many years and the last major price drop for the PS3 had the effect of temporarily boosting sales for a month or two and then having them drop back lower than they were before. Maybe $200 will be enough to give a boost, but that's NEVER happened historically. Did the GameCube sell at $99?
Ok, replace Monster truck with Monster Hunter. Listen, they remake these types of games that are popular on the PSP or make new ones and eventually they'll strike gold, combined with popular old franchises like FF13. PSThree is already in the works (which will be BIG for japan) and $200 may take a few years but hey the PS3 lifespan is 10 years, it has time on its side.Stumpokapow said:
lochnesssnowman
Member
indie85 said:
Well, that's you told Stumpokapow.
I was looking forward to Monster Truck on PS3 as well
slaughterking
Member
Riiiight, everything goes according to plan.indie85 said:
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