Devilgunman
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It shouldn't be surprising since that graph is comparing YTD from 12/26 till now. Of course the Switch should hit 700k faster than the other 2 since it has a huge boost from launch.
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It shouldn't be surprising since that graph is comparing YTD from 12/26 till now. Of course the Switch should hit 700k faster than the other 2 since it has a huge boost from launch.
frankie_baby
Member
Well if they are selling every switch they make i dont think they need it, i dont expect stars will be exclusive
This reminds me of the days when 3DS was starving for games, before the famous 3DS trifecta...Marvelous managed to launch Senran Kagura on 3DS and it managed to be their successful IP.
Why ASAP? Japan is congested as fuck as it is, why does it need to be aggravated even more?
Of course, Pokémon on the Switch is something they definitely want, but I don't see the urgency just yet.
Dark Cloud
Member
We have to think like Nintendo a year or two ago. Nintendo at the time doesn't know how well the Switch will sell. I can see a year or so ago they all talk about "Ok guys let's get Zelda, Mario, Pokémon, Mario Kart out during the first year for Switch to make sure it sells".
The idea of bringing Pokémon this year has to be made already I think. Eurogamer hasn't changed their stance on it not coming this year nor has MCV.
What is Japan congested with? Super Mario Odyssey? FEW is coming to New 3DS. Japan won't care about some Mario Rabbids game.
Great debut for MK8, expected more for the Switch but I guess it's a supply issue?
Also why the PS4 bump btw?
Okay I think you (and some others in this thread) need some perspective, the attach rates for both Zelda and MK8 are absolutely not "meh". They're great, just less impressive compared to the US.
Also it seems the Japanese buying public is way less inclined to buy ports than other parts of the world. (See most HD remasters and "Definitive editions", but in particular the Zelda HD ports sold like crap in Japan whereas they did decent to good numbers elsewhere).
Also why the PS4 bump btw?
Okay I think you (and some others in this thread) need some perspective, the attach rates for both Zelda and MK8 are absolutely not "meh". They're great, just less impressive compared to the US.
Also it seems the Japanese buying public is way less inclined to buy ports than other parts of the world. (See most HD remasters and "Definitive editions", but in particular the Zelda HD ports sold like crap in Japan whereas they did decent to good numbers elsewhere).
Switch didn't pass 3DS YTD this week because it had a huge boost from launch.
Mk7 won't die.
Anyone else think dbz is being untapped? Or is DB heroes really it's limit right now?
I feel the right game, with the right marketing should reach near it"s old numbers. Outside of JP it seems to be. But the games now don't touch 1 million or even several hundred thousand like before
Anyone else think dbz is being untapped? Or is DB heroes really it's limit right now?
I feel the right game, with the right marketing should reach near it"s old numbers. Outside of JP it seems to be. But the games now don't touch 1 million or even several hundred thousand like before
the switch is selling well tho so plans can change
i wouldnt discount the possibility of stars being 3ds exclusive especially with the 2dsxl coming and the games already coming out for the switch
it doesnt need pokemon but it'd be a good get none the less
Most games in Japan don't reach high numbers anymore.
I was referring to the supply specifically, which suggests to me that Japan has more than enough for the system as is (seeing as shipments sell out typically in less than an hour).
Yeah, as it stands Switch predictions aren't sales predictions, they're production (and distribution) predictions!
a dual release will be better tbh
Well yea, but heroes is the best selling one right now right? I just wonder if that's the ceiling atm. Maybe it izs
Dark Cloud
Member
You're right. They could hold it off to next year spring release.
Yeah, supply is going quick. Only Nintendo knows if they feel like the Switch will keep selling well in Japan during the holiday timeframe. Splatoon 2 will keep it selling like crazy during summer. I worry about when they get to September or October.
I'm pretty sure Xenoverse is.
Also if you are playing a DBZ game it is Dokkan Battle on mobile phones.
For overall sales, yes. For Switch sales driver, no.
frankie_baby
Member
I dont doubt it'll be this year just dont think it'll be exclusive, gamefreak will want the extra sales a 3ds version will bring (i wonder though if it might be n3ds only)
Oh yeah dokkan. I'd forgotten
And one day less of tracking. They likely sold a pretty similar amount.
Dark Cloud
Member
It depends on the perspective. If it's for sales of Pokémon Stars then I completely agree it's for the best to dual release it. If it's to keep pushing Switch sales by getting those 3DS owners to come over and push online subscriptions for Switch then I would say no to dual release.
Idk how much say Nintendo has in where Pokémon games should go.
i think the most interesting if stars is indeed 3ds/switch is to see how well pokemon can sell new hardware vs people being content with staying on the older platform
an interesting case to see how much price and graphics really influences people even if the new platform has a brighter future ahead
an interesting case to see how much price and graphics really influences people even if the new platform has a brighter future ahead
Minecraft for September, Pokemon Star for October, that will set everything on lock lol
Where can I see this graph? Considering how well portables sell in Japan, I would like to see it with Vita sales as well, just for curiosity.
Dark Cloud
Member
I'd also want to see the pricing of Pokémon on the Switch. Will is cost more than the 3DS version?
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Just FYI it's only for sales this calendar year, not sales post original launch dates
frankie_baby
Member
Almost certainly, although I'd expect it priced a bit less than most big releases
OrbitalBeard
Member
I think it will.
I think future supports are what make them buy the console, it already proved that it's gonna have lots of 1st party supports from Nintendo and 3rd parties from both the ps4, vita and 3ds will be onboard later
that's a little bit delusional, but whatever lol
¥5.980 bet that
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Seems like the second week drop is a bit worse compared to Awakening (-75%) and Fates (-79%).
Nevertheless the game has already outsold Path of Radiance and basically has outsold Thracia 776. Next up Radiant Dawn. Let's see whether it has the legs to creep to 250K like the next batch of games. Still kind of disappointing thus far due to the performance of Awakening & Fates, but we'll see how this goes.
Thus far:
GBA Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword 109.429 265.286 Nintendo 4/25/2003
NDS Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon 147.704 252.309 Nintendo 8/7/2008
NDS Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem - Hero of Light and Shadow 147.045 250.592 Nintendo 7/15/2010
GBA Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones 146.026 246.719 Nintendo 10/7/2004
WII Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn 73.337 171.924 Nintendo 2/22/2007
SFC Fire Emblem: Thracia 776 39.000 158.695 Nintendo 9/1/1999
3DS Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia 133.410 158.509 Nintendo 4/20/2017
NGC Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance 100.357 156.413 Nintendo 4/20/2005
heh, why? I mean it's not Pokemon coming to the ps4 lol
DeuceGamer
Member
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Doubtful. It rarely has a really big first week. However, it kind of just doesn't STOP selling.
PSV Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition 36.593 1.325.772 SCE 3/19/2015
WIU Minecraft: Wii U Edition 22.676 494.383 Microsoft 12/17/2015
PS4 Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition 5.680 471.285 SCE 12/3/2015
PS3 Minecraft: PlayStation 3 Edition [PlayStation Store] 380.000 SCE 6/24/2014
360 Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition 5.351 24.394 Microsoft 6/6/2013
XB1 Minecraft: Xbox One Edition 855 Microsoft 11/27/2014
didnt black/white 2 come out for ds when 3ds needed it also?
i suppose the counter to that is 3ds has bc and nintendo is placing their whole future on the switch so stars is needed even more
and this discussion is a little different than the mh one
stars being switch exclusive isn't as ridiculous as mh exclusive on ps4
Before New 2DS XL was announced I was sure Stars would be only on Switch (which is what Eurogamer says), now I'm not so sure anymore. Question now for me is if it's just on Switch or 3DS and Switch.
maybe it's because 3ds users can also buy the game due to backward compatibility
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
I feel like there's a little more substance to this one because of the HD and seemingly unused assets (Pokemon following you). I honestly would think they'd put it on 3DS & Switch if they were going to release something this year. Switch version to push new consoles and 3DS version to capture existing fanbase of millions.
I know the graph is a bit unreadable at first glance, but I didn't want to make two separate ones:
Left axis (and mostly declining lines) is weekly sales on a logarithmic scale, right axis (and strictly increasing lines) is total sales on a linear axis, launch-aligned. Brown is an estimation for Switch, but that has been bested already.
So Switch just crossed the Wii U line in total sales.
The logic behind a logarithmic scale was that I wanted to show long tail sales better.
Left axis (and mostly declining lines) is weekly sales on a logarithmic scale, right axis (and strictly increasing lines) is total sales on a linear axis, launch-aligned. Brown is an estimation for Switch, but that has been bested already.
So Switch just crossed the Wii U line in total sales.
The logic behind a logarithmic scale was that I wanted to show long tail sales better.
You mean physical? Because it's coming on the eShop in less than 10 days.
Yeah, eventually. It's been announced, but not the release date
LordOcidax
Member
Is going to have a physical release?
frankie_baby
Member
It'll be a dual release, i cant see gamefreak being happy only launching the game to a userbase of 8/9 million
LordRaptor
Member
"Third version" pokemon games traditionally sell less than either original titles standalone sales, and the only real point of comparison for a 'crossgen' release would be Crystal
frankie_baby
Member
At some point
it isn't delusional
switch is gonna dominate japan, whether the ps4 comes for the ride or not