I don't believe them. They keep making up new reasons for the slowdown.
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Megaman Legacy Collection |OT| One "Mighty" Collection
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tim_pkmn89
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Megaman slowdowns are one of the major unsolved problems in computer science, only rivaled by the P vs. NP problem.
http://nesdev.com/NESTechFAQ.htm#slowdown
Sounds like almost all slowdown on the nes was intentional to prevent the hardware from freezing up when expecting data and getting none or only part of it.
Could be nostalgia goggles but I don't remember there being much slowdown in classic mega man. I mean it was there but other nes games were far worse
Played through mm2 a few weeks ago I think the only slowdown was on crash man's stage where those annoying birds egg bomb you on the ladder
Played through mm2 a few weeks ago I think the only slowdown was on crash man's stage where those annoying birds egg bomb you on the ladder
hikarutilmitt
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That, the fight with the dragon in Wily 1, there's a little bit in the fight with the room at the end of Wily 2, the wall cannons at the end of Wily 3 etc. Mostly it was because of too many sprites, so using certain weapons will do it more consistently, particularly CBombs, a lot of boomerangs and sometimes the air shooter.
exactly. in 1986 no one would have made a game going slower to be "merciful" with the player. you either tune the difficulty in order to not have a difficulty spike or just give zero fucks and have a difficulty spike. the slowdowns were needed and caused by purely technical reasons.
rockmanjoe
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Great time to replay the series! Day 1! Hope they add 7-10 and Forte as DLC.
Excited for both this and Gunvolt PC!
Excited for both this and Gunvolt PC!
I really wish they would have just removed all the slowdown. The later NES Megaman games, starting with 3, are basically slide-shows at times.
The article linked leans towards the Megaman Collection as the "better" way to repackage old games, but I much prefer the approach Rare Replay took. I don't need 1:1 visual accuracy and all of the immense technical problems of older games like MM3 or Banjo Tooie. If I was that obsessed with playing the "first" version of the games, nothing but the real deal on the original console is going to satisfy.
Instead, I'd rather play those old titles with technical blemishes removed and a package that celebrates the spirit of the games, not an untouched museum.
It's "Mega Man" and "Rockman".
sixteen-bit
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lemme get sunsoft collection with like, gimmick and shit
Well, you have a lot of stuff to play elsewhere then (including inferior Mega Man collections that include the games in this package) because that's the way games have been repackaged (note: not preserved) commercially up until now-- either via ROM dumps (which would be the actual untouched museum pieces) or via weird, hodgepodge packages with inconsistent "upgrades" like Rare Replay that often introduce new issues.
There was literally nobody trying to be the Criterion Collection of games up until this point -- future-proofing old games in thoughtful groupings with amazing menu art and interesting, cohesive extras. I understand that iteration drives video games and up until this point "value" or the name of a series has been the focus of compilations but I'm pretty passionate about this approach.
I think it's important. I'd like the opportunity to boot up Steam in fifteen years and play an untouched, standalone Final Fantasy VI, instead of a mega-collection devoid of context, pocketed with inevitable emulation issues, or a collection of Keita Takahashi's Katamari Damacy games, instead of a new game with a bunch of rehashed levels that has absolutely nothing to do with the original creator, or a copy of Super Street Fighter II Turbo. None of that shit is going to be available to the average person in a decade or so unless someone like Digital Eclipse steps up now and lays the groundwork.
Edit:
I'm right there with you
as someone that doesn't even really like Mega Man all that much
maniac-kun
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So when does it get added to EU PSN? In 3 hours?
No idea as the PSN is a fickle beast but Wbacon, Capcom's community rep posted this on the Steam Community Hub a few days ago.
Darkspineslayer
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I think I'll wait for the physical version to get cheap, and if I have the drive to play these games in the meantime, look toward my PS2 Anniversary collection.
maniac-kun
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Thanks!
mattiewheels
And then the LORD David Bowie saith to his Son, Jonny Depp: 'Go, and spread my image amongst the cosmos. For every living thing is in anguish and only the LIGHT shall give them reprieve.'
Which makes you wonder why they faked slowdown at all for this collection. It really should be an option in the menu.
Man I wish this was a Vita release, crossbuysave with PS4 would have been beautiful.
lighthouse777
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http://www.xboxachievements.com/game/mega-man-legacy-collection/achievements/
achievement list for Xbox one
achievement list for Xbox one
Chaotic-Strike
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I got a working NES, but those prices are wayyyyyy too high.
I'll try this collection out since I only got Mega Man 2 and 3 on the Wii VC.
I'll try this collection out since I only got Mega Man 2 and 3 on the Wii VC.
bestpersonevar
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it's not showing as available yet on my Xbox
Not showing up on the PS4 PSN either. :/
is it supposed to show up today or something?
I would assume like most games, you could pre-purchase it. Does anyone know when it's going to go up? 9:00 PM PST?
Glendemonium
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So they'll be using he remastered tracks? Sure I'll bite. It's a shame that Megaman 7-10 never seemed to make it. unless...
I know fan games weren't meant for commercial release, but I wish there was a way Capcom would allow the famicom fan made versions of 7-8, vs SF and Unlimited along with 9-10 for a "Legacy Collection 2" release. Yes, I'm aware Unlimited isn't "canon" but it's a very well done fan game. MM vs. SF was supported by Capcom for a while if I'm not mistaken too.
I suppose part of the charm for Mega Man 7 and 8 would be lost, but having the whole saga done in NES graphics seems more uniform.
I know fan games weren't meant for commercial release, but I wish there was a way Capcom would allow the famicom fan made versions of 7-8, vs SF and Unlimited along with 9-10 for a "Legacy Collection 2" release. Yes, I'm aware Unlimited isn't "canon" but it's a very well done fan game. MM vs. SF was supported by Capcom for a while if I'm not mistaken too.
I suppose part of the charm for Mega Man 7 and 8 would be lost, but having the whole saga done in NES graphics seems more uniform.
Source? In the videos I have seen, it's just the 8-bit original OST.
chun li's thighs
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The slowdown isn't faked. It's there naturally as part of the process they're using to reproduce the games in their engine. Same with the old glitches, bugs, exploits, etc. None of that's there because they added them, they're there because at this point they are features of the original code base and the point of this project (aside from the monetary one) is game preservation.
Piston Hyundai
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please, mr gimmick was my father's name
OrbitalBeard
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Will this be available at 9 PM EST in America on XB1?
Well, it's probably under 500MB. But given how PSN can be sometimes it might as well be 50GB.
BONKERS
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I'd blame Sony more for the quality of that port. They probably gave them a shit budget and a shit schedule to do it.
I'd rather 7 and 8 stay the way they are. Having NES versions as options would be neat though.
Also: 10$ says any bugs and support will be non existent in to the future of this release. As par for Crapcom
No idea as the PSN is a fickle beast but Wbacon, Capcom's community rep posted this on the Steam Community Hub a few days ago.
I'll literally be on a plane bound for Japan when it launches. You have to be fucking kidding me.
Rapscallion
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Eh, I'm in no rush to replay these games. Maybe I'll get it one day if it's really cheap.
KnightHart
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Isn't there going to be a physical version of this later this year? Any word on what'll be in it?
rockman zx
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Available in Euro PSN, less than 300 megas but my PS4 says it can't be installed after the download.
checkeredknight
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Oh, of course. Thanks!
Beautiful OT for a beautiful series of games. Mega Man isn't dead though, he's just sleeping
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Now I know this re-coding is definitely good thing, but I never really had an issue with any of the ports. I grew up on the originals, too. Call me a cynic, but I feel like this is just another way Capcom can sell us the same games again.
Now excuse me while I buy the same games again.
forever
Now I know this re-coding is definitely good thing, but I never really had an issue with any of the ports. I grew up on the originals, too. Call me a cynic, but I feel like this is just another way Capcom can sell us the same games again.
Now excuse me while I buy the same games again.