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Metal Gear Solid V: Forward Operating Base (FOB)
- Thread starter The1Ski
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Nukes is a deterrance in MGS saga so they adapted for the FOB mode. Nukes ensured that you won't get any retaliation if you attack someone.
Mission 22
Unless they have nukes themselves I believe. Not sure about retaliation, but if you have a nuke, you can invade nuclear armed targets. you can't even find them without a nuke.
Need to finish mission 22.
Srey Plaughtered
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Shit, I'm still at mission 9. Long way to go.
I should start doing more missions lol.
Nope, you can only speed up the online dispatch missions for an outrageous price of 400+ coins, which is the equivalent of about 10 US$.
That's for one single E-ranked mission.
There's nothing else to spend your coins on.
MAX PAYMENT
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Yeah. I've seen that some items say that they can be equipped by security team. My question is how do you do it?
These menus confuse me. Thanks.
Take your time, you'll need the level in order to develop the security. Besides with the FOB you can lose your staff. I was attacked when I was sleeping and I lost 2 rank B and 1 rank A staff by a attack. Although FOB is pretty fun to play.
Srey Plaughtered
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Wow. That's straight up bullshit.
Who would even want to pay for that?
That sounds annoying given how you rarely get anyone over B in the field. I am investing in R&D for now and they're at level 19 something I think, it doesn't show much security stuff to develop though apart from weapons that the security team can use. The only way to level your staff is through Dispatch missions right?
Here's a tip: If you take out the defender but have an alarm triggered, don't go hide near the objective. The camera is right there for the defending player near so if you've got one of the downstairs objective platform and you hide in the garden, I'm gonna respawn and rocket you.
Well I can't say about that, but I don't think having nukes really makes any difference in the people you encounter. What I think it does makes difference is how much evolve is your FOB. For me who didn't invest in nothing in the FOB, I only get the same type of people that didn't create anything other than the first command platform.
Who would have thought that having insane power and awareness advantage over another player can give you fun experience.
Yup, I had an excessive amount of coins, so I said fuck it, but when I saw the price, I decided to keep them, I'd rather not spend them than pay that much for a mission that will only give me 1k fuel resources.
Now I have to hope that MGO uses the same currency.
It does mean you can specifically target nuke equipped FOBs, there's a section for it that's blank until you build your own nuke under FOB missions. I don't think you appear on the regular list if you have your own too, or that's an assumption as I haven't seen a nuke in over 50 invasions.
No, no it isn't. Fuck Konami for forcing you into this since you're auto-login'd to their servers online on bootup and fuck them for not having anti-cheat.
I've been playing offline because the PC servers are garbage and kill my loadtimes. I actually would not mind giving this stuff a try if it didn't cause my idroid to have 30 second loads between menu screens.
On PC at least, I'm asked to agree to a ToS every time I log in. If I decline it puts me in offline mode. I haven't done the 'base invasion' tutorial yet but my FOB is 'there' in that I get more staff space. But I still need more people to reach R&D levels past 45, and the only reasonable way for me to get them is to start playing in online mode.
On PC at least, I'm asked to agree to a ToS every time I log in. If I decline it puts me in offline mode. I haven't done the 'base invasion' tutorial yet but my FOB is 'there' in that I get more staff space. But I still need more people to reach R&D levels past 45, and the only reasonable way for me to get them is to start playing in online mode.
I think this could really use some balance tuning. As it stands defenders have an insanely huge leg up over invaders, maybe that was intended so that invaders almost always lose. If a defender joins your game while invading there's a slim chance you'll win at that point it seems. Defenders have infinite number of respawns and they respawn directly on the objective (which also happens to be the highest point on the map) with around 5 seconds of immunity. If they see you the alert phase begins which prevents you from ever entering the FOB core.
However - if a defender is never online to defend his FOB then the invasions are practically free. I think that just changing the defender spawn point would be an improvement. It would at least give you some breathing room. Right now if you were to kill a defender near the FOB you'd want to run back down and hide because when he re spawns he'll be immune to damage and will just reset the alert-phase timer when he spots you.
However - if a defender is never online to defend his FOB then the invasions are practically free. I think that just changing the defender spawn point would be an improvement. It would at least give you some breathing room. Right now if you were to kill a defender near the FOB you'd want to run back down and hide because when he re spawns he'll be immune to damage and will just reset the alert-phase timer when he spots you.
*On PC. That looks totally fucked. I'm assuming it'll appear on 360 and PS3 too since they're hacked, but for now since there's no packet exploits, PS4/XB1 should be fine.
Srey Plaughtered
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I hope so too, at least then all of us who have been getting coins only through the daily login bonus could use it to get something more useful than just time reduction. Or maybe they'll let you buy another FOB once their servers are good.
As you gain heroism you'll find better people with better ranks (I'm finding A++ to S to fulton them) so level isn't really a problem, what will become a problem is losing materials. And you level them through dispatch mission. But losing personnel is really irritating seeing that I lost a level in my Intel team.
See the beginning of this page.
FOBs are beyond pointless imo. Infiltrating is terrible and difficult against well staffed / defended platforms. If the platforms are poorly staffed, then there's no real need to steal their staff, and you can go and steal unprocessed materials, but they just opens you up to an infiltration where that will happen to you, unless you poor GMP into defending every FOB platform you have, but again for what purpose.
Don't even care about all the RMT. Not sure why Konami thought people would find this fun enough to spend money on. It seems like a holdover until MGO comes out. Put your paid items in that instead (I know they will)
Don't even care about all the RMT. Not sure why Konami thought people would find this fun enough to spend money on. It seems like a holdover until MGO comes out. Put your paid items in that instead (I know they will)
hahah thanks. just trying to read as little as possible for spoiler avoidance O_O
Stallion Dan
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I think being invaded while offline is BS.
Every single time but one it was in the middle of night, pretty sure people just look at players profiles and pick ones where is the middle of night. And they just kill my guys without even extracting.
So fuck this mode ruining my single player progress, staying offline. MGO better no cause it to update single player.
I wonder if backing up your save, taking the damage, then reloading the back-up works to avoid the damage.
Every single time but one it was in the middle of night, pretty sure people just look at players profiles and pick ones where is the middle of night. And they just kill my guys without even extracting.
So fuck this mode ruining my single player progress, staying offline. MGO better no cause it to update single player.
I wonder if backing up your save, taking the damage, then reloading the back-up works to avoid the damage.
You can choose what range type of weapon they equip as well.
MAX PAYMENT
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I wonder if it's possible to put the game down for a month, come back, and see all your shit gone.
How MGSV and FOB's seem to work I would say yes, very possible. Saw in stream player losing tens of thousands resources and ~20+ soldiers because he was offline and streamer invaded.
MAX PAYMENT
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So if you develop a weapon that can be used by the security team there's just a chance that they will use it?
PC feels like the superior choice of platform for this game, at least to me, but after seeing the link posted earlier I don't see how I'll ever build an FOB. I understand MGO comes out in January so here's hoping there will be a FOX anti-cheat by then...
Reposting the link here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBdgFu-q4Xs&feature=youtu.be&t=3m
Reposting the link here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBdgFu-q4Xs&feature=youtu.be&t=3m
Could work in theory. Depends if the check to see if you're owed losses/bonuses are kept server side or based on the date of the save.
Oh yeah that too.
MAX PAYMENT
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That sucks. I didn't think that FOB's would be so involving. I kind of wish I can opt out now.
I'm guessing that's it, since there isn't a way to actually choose exactly what weapon they use.
Since GMP cost of platform defense rises, it might be the higher / highest grades of weapons you develop that they can use.
Also I just noticed that your security rating goes down if you choose something besides mid-range.
MAX PAYMENT
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That's kind of odd about the range.
MAX PAYMENT
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Yeah. In the FOB demo video, the guy makes it sound like your base's layout is customizable. He says something like "since you're defending your own personal base, you'll know the layout better."
Player gets automatic invasion warning no matter what they were doing in the game. Only way for them not to get warning is for them to be offline.
Maybe it's because I don't have Grade 5 versions of shotguns and shit like I do for other weapons. I'll check again in a day or so.
MAX PAYMENT
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I would feel 100x more comfortable being in the FOB game if there was a way to make a GAF FOB community.
Moon_frogger
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I'm pissed that people are buying the coins. I thought if we chucked a big enough fit and didn't buy them they'd patch it out or at least give us more free coins or an extra free base. Guess not though, if anything they'll probably see that people are falling for it and add more microtransaction bullshit into MGO.
Phoenix944
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It'd be a bit unfair to allow community. The poor guy that attack one member get raided by 50 others... x)
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Its about the legend of GAF being greater than the sum of its phantoms.
That's not true, at least not always. I invaded someone yesterday and when the defender came back to his base it did reload and I was a little further back than I was before, but I wasn't back at my starting point.
If you spawn in one platform and make it to another, once the person deploys to defend you start on that platform, not your spawn point.