Because it adds a whole new layer of complexity, notably because optical drives are slow and not guaranteed to always work at an optimal speed, so handling how to disguise load misses becomes a big part of it all. Metroid, for one, doesn't solve it in a very optimal way, adding doors everywhere and allowing their opening to lag quite a bit behind the player triggering it.
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Metroid Prime probably did not run on Unreal Engine 2
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Because it adds a whole new layer of complexity, notably because optical drives are slow and not guaranteed to always work at an optimal speed, so handling how to disguise load misses becomes a big part of it all. Metroid, for one, doesn't solve it in a very optimal way, adding doors everywhere and allowing their opening to lag quite a bit behind the player triggering it.
Metroid had an out from day 1. All previous Metroid games relied on just such doors which were a perfect solution for the Prime games.
Cygnus X-1
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Interesting. That's why it looked so fantastic.
BioShock does have that very UE3 specular thing on it's shader work, but it's UE2 not UE3, I can think of UE3 games that have that look, but no other UE2 games. Except Bio2 of course.
It's funny, some engines do have a certain look about them, but some games betray that heavily. DNF screams Doom 3 engine to me, but it's not.
It's funny, some engines do have a certain look about them, but some games betray that heavily. DNF screams Doom 3 engine to me, but it's not.
Stallion Free
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You mean UE 2.5 and Rainbow Six Vegas shares the exact same look. 2.5 was a fairly big leap from UE2.
DNF is based off UE 2.5 as well IIRC.
DNF is based off UE 2.5 as well IIRC.
At this point, I think this is the biggest mystery of this thread.
Retro's artistry is why Metroid Prime looked fantastic. It was running on their own creation.
DNF had vaseline on it as well, just not as much as Bioshock. Bioshock was a great disappointment to me, TBH, and going through an entire game coated in KY Jelly made it that much worse.
Stallion Free
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Weird, because the INI files setup mirrored UE2 era games, not UE3.
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Both look pretty bad nowadays, but I'd have to give the slight edge to the PS1 if only because its games didn't look like someone spilled vaseline all over them.
Metalmurphy
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Vegas Lead Designer:
" It helped a lot that Rainbow 6: 3 used the Unreal 2 engine so we had a lot of core members in the team who had worked on this and Black Arrow, so we went with something we know and something that had a good reputation. "
Probably has to do with how they do things and not the engine itself.
walking fiend
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lol@ title thread change
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and why was NM banned again?
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and why was NM banned again?
As are Splinter Cell DA (360 + PS3 version) and Splinter Cell Conviction.
Shame about Conviction on 360, though, as it had very poor image quality and a low framerate with lots of tearing.
A bad choice to be sure.At a guess I'd say wilful derailment and/or failure to follow threads properly. His last comment here ignored a good page or so of discussion progress.
godisturbed
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Reviews at the time said it was like a game from the future but they probably didnt mean the underlying engine too lol
Muffdraul
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Crystal Dynamics pulled it off w/ LoK Soul Reaver in 1999.
sixteen-bit
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Shiny did it on the PS1 with MDK in what, 1997?
Muffdraul
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Pretty sure that was MDK2 in 2000, not the original.
EDIT: Looked it up, statement retracted.
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