I don't know why you're pretending like there's some creativity or depth to shit talking you run into multiplayer games. Look through the examples in the OP, it's idiots regurgitating shit they think is edgy. There's no need to perpetuate that garbage.
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MIC: Overwatch players turn to Reddit to share their stories of Harrassment
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I don't know why you're pretending like there's some creativity or depth to shit talking you run into multiplayer games. Look through the examples in the OP, it's idiots regurgitating shit they think is edgy. There's no need to perpetuate that garbage.
I dont know if I got the "good decent people" lottery or what but i have never had this problem. Anytime a girl gets on mic everyone treats her the same as anyone else. Not special, they dont even call out that shes a woman. They just treat her as a teammate. And this has happened tons of times. I have not yet heard a woman get discriminated against in game.
Is this a console thing maybe? Maybe the PC crowd are generally an older generation and know how to treat people with respect?
Is this a console thing maybe? Maybe the PC crowd are generally an older generation and know how to treat people with respect?
Maximus P
Member
I too would like to see harsh punishments for these assholes.
Not the same, but the abusive personal messages I've received in fifa is a sight to behold. From people simply calling me a 'cunt' to others wishing cancer on my children. I always report to MS, and make a note of their gamer tag.
It's a shame that when I look into some of these people weeks later I can see that their profiles are still active. I've heard that Microsoft opts for short communication bans for abusive individuals rather than out right bans.
Not the same, but the abusive personal messages I've received in fifa is a sight to behold. From people simply calling me a 'cunt' to others wishing cancer on my children. I always report to MS, and make a note of their gamer tag.
It's a shame that when I look into some of these people weeks later I can see that their profiles are still active. I've heard that Microsoft opts for short communication bans for abusive individuals rather than out right bans.
dehydratedbabies
Member
Your post doesn't make any sense.
finalflame
Gold Member
This has also been my experience in Overwatch on PC. I've more often seen Koreans getting racist hate, but that's not often either.
Thinking gold medals are a valid, 100% representative measure of your contribution to a game of Overwatch doesn't make sense. But sure, feel free to not address that.
DarkoMaledictus
Tier Whore
People are scum bags in general, anonymity just gives them carte blanche to say whatever they want. Sad world friends...
Brawndo Addict
Banned
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Gentleman Jack
Member
Yes let's just dismiss the hundreds of women and minorities who say it is a huge issue hampering their enjoyment of their hobby because somehow they aren't as tough and thick skinned as the boys/men of the 1990s or something.
FOH.
Juke Joint Jezebel
Member
In my own personal experience, I've found it to be a very small minority of the games population overall, on PC at least. As somebody who switches between American and European servers and mainly plays Quickplay and Arcade and uses mic fairly often it's a rare occurence for me to get something toxic hurled at me in regards to my sex in either voice chat or text chat. Now if I were to switch over to Competitive, whoo boy! Shit gets heated quick, especially when communicating over mic. Seems like tons of people will find any excuse to insult you based on your sex, gender, race or various other things in competitive, especially when your team is losing. Lost count of the amount of times I was told to "Stop playing and get back in the kitchen...bitch."
I want to congratulate Angry Fork for winning the Most Representative Of All The Problems With Online Gamers award in this thread.
FadedRevolution
Member
I wonder how difficult it would be or if its even possible at all to implement bots who would act as moderators in a game.
Frozenprince
Banned
It's an almost staggering lack of self awareness really.
dehydratedbabies
Member
I didn't say it was 100% representative. In any case, I'll continue having fun playing Junkrat in competitive mode. I hope that you enjoy your time playing this video game too.
He's either clueless or an asshole-and I'm not sure which is worse.
7DollarHagane
Banned
This will never stop happening to someone. It's impossible to have some solution that prevents anyone from getting on the mic in an online game and being a troll or harrassing.
It's simply impossible to police every offense or spend money researching every case. Maybe if you want your Xbox live and PS+ to go up in price by $50 a year so they can hire whole teams to listen to chat logs and servers to store the voice data.
It's a reality of the internet and the best way to fix it is a case by case basis where you mute the ones that cause trouble.
Same here honestly.
Probably depends on matchmaking rating. In most multiplayer games I've played the more serious people get with wanting to win, the more well behaved communication tends to get.
Average skill rating and below is an MMR hell in more ways than people just playing badly.
Yeah that'll definitely help man.
They should just shit talk back. That will suppress misogynistic bullshit from insecure man children!
Especially when out numbered, that'll work!
Frozenprince
Banned
I wonder why it's taken so long for young girls and women to get into this as a hobby in larger numbers.
Hmmmm.
The Strokes
Banned
Fucking hell this sucks so much.
Overwatch is the first online multiplayer in which I've engaged with the community because even me as a guy I'm not into getting yelled at for whatever stupid reason, luckily this hasn't been an occurrence, even with women on the group.
Having said that, I came across a girl that said although the Overwatch community in Xbox is way less toxic than the Halo 5 one, she's still encounters those type of messages every now and then.
That's just sad.
Overwatch is the first online multiplayer in which I've engaged with the community because even me as a guy I'm not into getting yelled at for whatever stupid reason, luckily this hasn't been an occurrence, even with women on the group.
Having said that, I came across a girl that said although the Overwatch community in Xbox is way less toxic than the Halo 5 one, she's still encounters those type of messages every now and then.
That's just sad.
Garcia el Gringo
Member
I'm going to take a stab at this and say that it "doesn't make sense" that your takeaway from someone mentioning experiencing messages telling them to switch in comp is to rant on how they might play due to the meta and not address the presumed toxic behavior, the thing that really matters.
IMO, anybody who doesn't call people out for being racist/sexist/homophobic/transphobic in chat is just as bad as the perpetrators. I don't care how white, straight and male you are; if we all stood up against these pricks they would pull their heads in. We need to generate a culture where this is unacceptable.
I've been abused, threatened and banned for standing up to bullies in online games, and I don't regret it.
I've been abused, threatened and banned for standing up to bullies in online games, and I don't regret it.
FataIChoice
Member
I'm curious, is Overwatch worse than most other games for abhorrent comments? I read it a lot in relation to it but wonder if is because the game attracts a larger spectrum than a standard military shooter.
I've played nearly nothing of the game because the bots are kinda crappy to play against and even then I won't always have a solid enough connection to play.
That said, the first time I got online the global chat on the menu had someone who was making very graphically pedophilic comments to another player who they implied was an underage boy. I honestly haven't seen that sort of thing in global chats before and I hope reporting them actually did something.
I've played nearly nothing of the game because the bots are kinda crappy to play against and even then I won't always have a solid enough connection to play.
That said, the first time I got online the global chat on the menu had someone who was making very graphically pedophilic comments to another player who they implied was an underage boy. I honestly haven't seen that sort of thing in global chats before and I hope reporting them actually did something.
I would suggest two counterpoints.
1. "Can I get some nudes?" and "I bet you have a fat cunt." are literal quotes from the OP, and they should not come with the territory. Societal change needs people to stand up against behavior like this rather than accepting it as the status quo.
2. Facebook has shown that scummy behavior doesn't go away once anonymity is removed, sadly.
finalflame
Gold Member
Choosing to play an ineffective hero and refusing to adapt to help your team in a competitive game mode is far more egregious toxic behavior, IMO. So is misunderstanding the medal system and using it to justify your toxic, selfish, non-contributive behavior.
Does this mean people are entitled to being insulting towards OP? Nah, not acceptable under any circumstances. Are they entitled to being respectfully upset? Yup.
Frozenprince
Banned
dehydratedbabies
Member
^OVERWATCH^
The real Butters
Member
I don't get why people are like that. I was never like that but then again, Back in my old days there weren't a whole bunch of voice chat around either. I think the first time i actually knowingly stumbled upon a woman in a game was WOW but i thought nothing of it.
Guess I was raised right.
I only play with friends these days so my view on the online community is kind of limited. However whenever I do get dipped into a public voice chat I nope out of there instantly.
If i caught my kids acting that way, Oh man.
Guess I was raised right.
I only play with friends these days so my view on the online community is kind of limited. However whenever I do get dipped into a public voice chat I nope out of there instantly.
If i caught my kids acting that way, Oh man.
the_sun_king
Member
finalflame
Gold Member
Yeah, yes. Disagree all you want, but much like in MOBAs, if an individual is a non-contributor and refuses to be a team player, they bring the rest of the team down with them. This is going to upset your teammates in a competitive game mode where a lot of your focus is on winning, period. Whether or not they choose to be vocal about it is a function of their personality.
To be clear, this never justifies sexist, insulting, and/or otherwise offensive dialog towards anyone, but it is what it is.
Frozenprince
Banned
Jesus Christ you're saying that someone choosing to play a character they like best in a video game designed to be played for fun are the equivalent to being insulted, degraded, debased and dehumanized.
Gamers everybody.
As someone who used to play a lot of online games back in the 360 days, Overwatch is not nearly as awful as games like COD or Halo, at least in my experience.
Overwatch is fun, having fun is fun, but why would you go play comp if you're not playing to win? The arcade modes are the most fun part of Overwatch anyway and don't have the toxicity.
haha, i had some guy wanting my home address, because he said i disrespected him. He said he was gonna shoot me! haha dead serious. Im like, yeah, you just want my address so you can send me a 10 pizza's and foot me with the bill!
I told him to hit me up on twitter or email, but yeah, he never did.
I told him to hit me up on twitter or email, but yeah, he never did.
Competitive is competitive mode for a reason. If you're going to pick a hero who spends his time dealing trash damage that gets healed up quickly but feeds the other teams healer ult charges faster, go to quick play or arcade.
Junkrat has problems in competitive because most of the time he's just not able to finish off the players he deals damage to. I'm not saying they deserve to be insulted for it, but it's not entirely unreasonable to have other players question that particular character pick, if done in a reasonable tone.
I like playing Junkrat. I think he's a fun character. But I wouldn't do so in competitive, for much of the reason I don't play Torb in there either, even though Torb is one of my most picked heroes in defence quickplay.
Gentleman Jack
Member
I feel like you've got an axe to grind with people who don't live up to your expectations of teamplay in a team shooter, and are trying way too hard to marry it to the topic of vile abuse lobbed at people over things they can't help, like being women.
Like, your point is taken but nobody gives a shit.
finalflame
Gold Member
Choosing to ruin the game for 5 other people because you insist on being selfish and playing a hero that isn't contributing to your teams success is toxic IMO, yes. Especially when you think you're contributing just fine because "muh gold medals". It upsets me, personally, far more than being insulted over the internet.
Doesn't mean I'd ever insult anyone over it, because I find that behavior to also be abhorrent and wouldn't partake in it.
YMMV.
Sure, fair enough. It was brought up in response to another poster who incorrectly attributed his contribution to gold medals. The sidebar has probably overstayed its welcome at this point so I'm happy to move on.
Frozenprince
Banned
Because you can play to win and play a character you're good at? Just because it doesn't fall within "THE META" doesn't mean he's sabotaging shit on purpose. Maybe he sucks as other characters.
It's stupid. It is an absurd connotation to even make, it's insulting quite frankly.
Comp is a different beast. If you dont want to do what it takes to win in comp, then go back to quick play! Nothing irks me more then some guy trolling in comp. I have had to learn to play about 15 characters so i can adapt to the situation. I hate playing soldier 76, but i have to play him at times for the team. If you cant play a team based game correctly GTFO.
I play quick play as well and i dont say shit to the team comp. We could play with no healers and no tanks, and i could give no fucks. Comp like i said, its a different beast. There to win and nothing else.
Still reading the topic, just finished the OP...
I've posted before about the harassment I've received in Overwatch. While I don't think it's as bad as the 1 in 3 games mentioned in the OP's quote, it's still pretty bad. It might be because I don't really use voice chat, and limit myself to text chat. It can be really toxic sometimes tho, and I can't imagine what it's like for other women who aren't as thick skinned like I am. : \
I've posted before about the harassment I've received in Overwatch. While I don't think it's as bad as the 1 in 3 games mentioned in the OP's quote, it's still pretty bad. It might be because I don't really use voice chat, and limit myself to text chat. It can be really toxic sometimes tho, and I can't imagine what it's like for other women who aren't as thick skinned like I am. : \
Garcia el Gringo
Member
Succinct.
Frozenprince
Banned
"play the way I want you to or don't play this mode at all"
dehydratedbabies
Member
I do play to win. Typical scenario:
*in starting room*
guy w/ mic: uh junkrat can you switch to [insert whoever they think i should be]
me: no thanks
guy w/ mic: #@(%&Y@&
*match ends, we win, I got gold eliminations, damage, and objective kills and POTG*
gg