Xabora said:Ahh crap... we now have to install Vista on the 360?
Domino Theory said:That's the thing. We need to hear about those damn "games" or "features". It's getting to the point where all us 360 owners have to hype up/look forward to are dashboard updates. And that's not a good thing.
I realize GDC is next week, but honestly, it's not a trade show or some PR camp for the press so I'm starting to worry about not hearing about anything from Microsoft. I really don't want to start hyping up another Spring update, then have to wait for E3' 08.
Wollan said:So did Don actually say he had a three year plan for the X360?
I'm guessing Bungie will release their next project (disregarding Weta stuff) in fall 2010 then. 2011 for X1080?
XP would QUITE a bit easier than vista.omg rite said:Could be worse.
They could be making us install XP on 360.
RBH said:Err, I'm not following.
Do you think it's possible that Sony could go through the next Xbox with the PS3 as well? Sony would be hard pressed to release another console in 2010 given the amount invested into the PS3. Sony will have to hang onto the PS3 longer than 3 years to get that money back and I'm sure they will.Wollan said:So did Don actually say he had a three year plan for the X360?
I'm guessing Bungie will release their next project (disregarding Weta stuff) in fall 2010 then. 2011 for X1080?
Lightning said:No, I'm not dumb, you are, as that joke as worn so thin. People need to move on from 'that' joke.
And we'll see regarding MGS4 on the 360 I don't really care. I just hate the speculation with no evidence to back it up. It was only 1 month ago at CES that Sony and a Konami marketing rep were touting MGS4 exclusive and showed a playable demo, later this month they are announcing a release date... it says to me for the immediate future their minds are made up. Whatever happens happens but we just shut up, drop the rumors, and see what happens.
Konami do not do business like Capcom.... people need to realize that.
Lightning said:Do you think it's possible that Sony could go through the next Xbox with the PS3 as well? Sony would be hard pressed to release another console in 2010 given the amount invested into the PS3. Sony will have to hang onto the PS3 longer than 3 years to get that money back and I'm sure they will.
tanod said:My ass. It is speaking.
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tanod said:He didn't make a mistake when he said that. PR's job is to lay out carefully constructed sentences to bring the reader or listener to a (some times) false conclusion from a technically factual statement. In other words, intentionally mis-lead.
It's like when they announced GTA4 at E3 2006. They made it sound like the DLC AND the game was exclusive to the 360 and Rockstar emailed the press immediately afterwards saying that the game was coming to PS3 too.
Lightning said:Do you think it's possible that Sony could go through the next Xbox with the PS3 as well? Sony would be hard pressed to release another console in 2010 given the amount invested into the PS3. Sony will have to hang onto the PS3 longer than 3 years to get that money back and I'm sure they will.
stotch said:Announcing a major 08 game at E3, and only giving it a 4 month hype cycle, would be as unheard of as...blacking out 08 announcments from E3 07.
Wollan said:So did Don actually say he had a three year plan for the X360?
I'm guessing Bungie will release their next project (disregarding Weta stuff) in fall 2010 then. 2011 for X1080?
pswii60 said:Also interesting that he said you can get GTA IV online multiplayer only on 360 (?), and that they have lots of announcements and news etc coming up this year.
It was clearly a mistake how it was worded. Keep your pants on.Kafel said:What were his words exactly ?
Wollan said:It was clearly a mistake how it was worded. Keep your pants on.
:lol What the heck are you talking about. In this world, today, you can buy people's lives with money and you state you can't buy features out of a competitor's game??? :lolstotch said:You can't buy features out of a competitors version of a game. It has to be something added on.
Wollan said:It was clearly a mistake how it was worded. Keep your pants on.
Wollan said:PS3 is built to last like no console before it (it has all the new technologies, hdd standard, built to stand time/usage..etc). 2011 would actually be painful for them I believe, to cut the PS3 life that short. It would be very interesting if Sony broke the cyclic thing and just waited three or so years after the X1080s release before launching PS4 or whatever (that could also be a good time to enter for a even longer period probably with the whole 'diminishing returns' situation taking root).
You have a console industry rule book?stotch said:You can't buy features out of a competitors version of a game. It has to be something added on. Maybe an extra dlc-only multiplayer mode? Extra vehicle you can have in an online race mode or something. I wish MS would say somthing cos everything coming out of them on this game has been really cryptic.
Z3F said:Please stop with the 10 yr plan nonsense. PS3 can't even run COD4 at 720p. All the best looking PS3 games, with the exception of Ratchet and Clank, run only at 30fps with significant tearing and slowdown. The PS3 is far from the technological powerhouse that you make it out to be.
Of course, 360 is in the same boat which is why I sincerely hope that both companies will have new consoles by 2011 at the lastest. I really don't want to continue playing 30fps/720p games on my 1080P TV for more than 2 years.
Z3F said:Please stop with the 10 yr plan nonsense. PS3 can't even run COD4 at 720p. All the best looking PS3 games, with the exception of Ratchet and Clank, run only at 30fps with significant tearing and slowdown. The PS3 is far from the technological powerhouse that you make it out to be.
Of course, 360 is in the same boat which is why I sincerely hope that both companies will have new consoles by 2011 at the lastest. I really don't want to continue playing 30fps/720p games on my 1080P TV for more than 2 years.
Z3F said:I really wish there'll be a new Xbox by Fall 2010 and a new PS3 by Fall 2011. The GPUs and amount of ram in both systems are sorely lacking. Even a low end 8800 blows away the GPUs of both system. Both systems should have at least had a 8800 level GPU and 1gb of ram so that gamers don't have to be subjected to the low framerates/tearing that are so prevalent in this gen. It's pretty sad that 60fps w/nice visuals were so much more common in last gen. This gen seems to have taken a huge step back in terms of offering state of the arts visuals at 60fps.
FightyF said:I don't know what this Major Nelson fellow went out to achieve here. I have a feeling that the announcement isn't going to be anything exciting. Even if it was a 3rd party game exclusivity aquisition...that's pretty blah news to me as a 360 gamer (nevermind multiconsole gamer). It was coming to the 360 anyways...so...I should be excited...why? The only people who care are Xbots and SonySluts (hey that rhymes).
How about, "We're working on a brand new title that's gonna be awesome". Or, "We're working on some Live features such as Clans.". Or how about, "We've worked with Logitec and the G25 will be 360 compatible."
Announce any of those things, and I'll go bonkers.
If I were a betting man, I'd wager that I'm not going to be going bonkers after this announcement. I have a feeling that it's going to be something really mundane...like, "I bought a pair of socks yesterday...tube socks. Real comfortable. See you at GDC."
Multicore development seems to have been a tough thing to overcome. I suppose you have legitimate hardware greviences, but also do consider that multicore development is another hurdle that hurt the jump in visuals.
Wow, that would make the 360 my most beloved console this generation. Sadly this is something I could only dream of. I want my Shenmue sequel!Ash Sparrow said:Shenmue 3 and 4 Exclusive
Z3F said:I really wish there'll be a new Xbox by Fall 2010 and a new PS3 by Fall 2011. The GPUs and amount of ram in both systems are sorely lacking. Even a low end 8800 blows away the GPUs of both system. Both systems should have at least had a 8800 level GPU and 1gb of ram so that gamers don't have to be subjected to the low framerates/tearing that are so prevalent in this gen. It's pretty sad that 60fps w/nice visuals were so much more common in last gen. This gen seems to have taken a huge step back in terms of offering state of the arts visuals at 60fps.
pswii60 said:Major never said there was going to be an announcement, all he did is say he was going to have a mid-week show, and he did and interviewed Don Mattrick about a bunch of stuff - and it was a good listen IMO.
As for this 'announcement' - that came from those bullshitters over at Kotaku and got escalated by GAF as per fucking usual. Thread title needs changing to 'Major Nelson interviews Don Mattrick'.
Z3F said:I really wish there'll be a new Xbox by Fall 2010 and a new PS3 by Fall 2011. The GPUs and amount of ram in both systems are sorely lacking. Even a low end 8800 blows away the GPUs of both system. Both systems should have at least had a 8800 level GPU and 1gb of ram so that gamers don't have to be subjected to the low framerates/tearing that are so prevalent in this gen. It's pretty sad that 60fps w/nice visuals were so much more common in last gen. This gen seems to have taken a huge step back in terms of offering state of the arts visuals at 60fps.
icecream said:*Looks at PS3 sales compared to 360
Definitely not a good move to go exclusive 360.
pswii60 said:09:04 in the podcast, Don Mattrick says re GTA IV:
"I'm really excited with its downloadable content and online multiplayer support (slight pause) - again that's something that's unique to 360. We think consumers are going to love that, and it's going to create, what I would describe again as, the premium experience on our platform."
He seems confident in its wording, so who knows. I wasn't even aware that GTA IV had any multiplayer in the first place.
Also EuroGamer have picked up on it already: http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=92600
But could be another "only place to play Halo 3, Madden and GTA IV" type thing or something.
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dancmc said:Well the good thing is we will likely have some more info shortly. With GAF and other sites starting to pick up on this, if this is untrue, I would expect a quick response from Rock* stating exactly that. The interesting thing will be if they fail to comment.
Hunter D said:You have a console industry rule book?
COD4 600p is said to be to do with the 360's EDRAM. Plus the PS2 is going strong, I expect the PS3 to continue in a similar fashion. The PS4 will come out in 2014.Z3F said:Please stop with the 10 yr plan nonsense. PS3 can't even run COD4 at 720p. All the best looking PS3 games, with the exception of Ratchet and Clank, run only at 30fps with significant tearing and slowdown. The PS3 is far from the technological powerhouse that you make it out to be.
Of course, 360 is in the same boat which is why I sincerely hope that both companies will have new consoles by 2011 at the lastest. I really don't want to continue playing 30fps/720p games on my 1080P TV for more than 2 years.
Ewww. The graphics whore in me will be back to playing PC games again!deepbrown said:The PS4 will come out in 2014.
Black_Ice said:Didn't read thread, only OP. Is this a GTAIV announcement or still a Microsoft announcement?
deepbrown said:You do know the PS3 wasn't meant to come out until 2007/8 don't you?
Prine said:You forgot about LP and Dead Rising?
I would hardly use COD4 as a benchmark for the PS3..Z3F said:Please stop with the 10 yr plan nonsense. PS3 can't even run COD4 at 720p.
Wollan said:I would hardly use COD4 as a benchmark for the PS3..
But if there's one thing that this gen has shown us so far it's that graphics means fuck all.
pswii60 said:You really should read the thread.
THERE WASN'T AND IS NO ANNOUNCEMENT
Just Kotaku speculative bullshit.
sinnergy said:No it means fuck all the technical mumbojumbo and just give us a good result on screen. Who gives a shit if it's 640p upscalled to 720p when it still looks awesome..
You guys and your numbers fetish.
Black_Ice said:Oh.
Ok. Thanks.