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[nelsonroyale]

Who needs surprises when you have a game that's actually coming out before when the beaches are still open? Sony had the best show, without a doubt, but in terms of prolonging momentum, MS showed that the time betwixt now and August (a time in which we still will have seen no public arrival of anything Sony showed) is well taken care of with both really good first party software (Forza and Blue Dragon) and possibly the best game of the year, and without a doubt a AAA title:

MASS. EFFECT.

You need no surprises when an art team has designed armor that sick.

mass effect looks great, there are lots of games that look great this year though...and I dont think ms has many surprises to reveal to be honest, the have already revealed a lot of big games...theyve done a good job on that side...sony has held back alot though...too much

MS really showed nothing much at GDC, but they didnt really need to, their hand is already pretty clear

peace

 

[Panajev2001a]

Well to be fair, after Kung-Fu Chaos, would you be interested in the studios next game?

Anyone who checked out who works in Ninja Theory and the access they have to SCE's 1st party technology (Deano publicly stated that they are basically treated like just another first party studio).

 

[Moz La Punk]

I still think MS should have pulled a few surprises out of the bag. They do have an awesome line up for this year, I'm not disagreeing with that, but if they would have come out with a few new games it would draw more attention to them. Now I'm more hyped for the PS3, simply because they showed some new stuff.

 

[DCharlie]

Well to be fair, after Kung-Fu Chaos, would you be interested in the studios next game?

well, i assume a few people - in a previous thread , i believe some people called them one of the best developers in the world - as KFC is their only game to date, i'm guessing the game had a ton of surprisingly sonyleaning closet fans.

 

[Cuth]

And Heavenly Sword, I wouldn't doubt it, they are clueless at times.

Clueless for choosing Epic and BioWare instead of Ninja Theory and Factor 5?

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

Clueless for choosing Epic and BioWare instead of Ninja Theory and Factor 5?

No, my view comes from hindsight. Even then, they picked right. Nobody knows what a game is going to do until it hits retail and reviews. So no, Microsoft's view was correct. Gears will hit 5 million in its lifetime and Mass Effect will likely be top 3 game this year and destroy NPD the month it comes out. Shane and Robbie did right with this decision. Stopped making bullshit games and started swinging for the fences with their first party efforts.

I would have taken Factor 5 just for graphical purposes though. They have Rare though, Banjo will amaze, just watch. Hate on their game, can't hate on their technical proficiency.
Ninja Theory? Heavenly Sword has to prove to be good first. It looks nice though. It's going in direct competition to Sony's best IP IMHO and that is God of War and copying it to an extent. I don't know if that is a good or bad thing yet.

 

[Haunted]

but I think they're pushing in a different direction and we've sort of fundamentally got two different approaches going on here."

"I think there is very much a vision that people see it and it looks cool but it's fundamentally separate from the games – or at least what they've shown so far. It's a cool world but it's like a little game by itself. Our approach is the other way around; it's that games are the center and that's the star of the show, that's what people buy the console for."

I like the sound of that.

 

[Scotch]

Note to devs: If you want MS to publish your new IP, make sure your previous efforts don't have the words 'Kung Fu' in them

:lol Underappreciated post.

 

[nelsonroyale]

No, my view comes from hindsight. Even then, they picked right. Nobody knows what a game is going to do until it hits retail and reviews. So no, Microsoft's view was correct. Gears will hit 5 million in its lifetime and Mass Effect will likely be top 3 game this year and destroy NPD the month it comes out. Shane and Robbie did right with this decision. Stopped making bullshit games and started swinging for the fences with their first party efforts.

I would have taken Factor 5 just for graphical purposes though. They have Rare though, Banjo will amaze, just watch. Hate on their game, can't hate on their technical proficiency.
Ninja Theory? Heavenly Sword has to prove to be good first. It looks nice though. It's going in direct competition to Sony's best IP IMHO and that is God of War and copying it to an extent. I don't know if that is a good or bad thing yet.

what? Im sure people didnt choose this or that....epic and bioware, where in MS's pocket last gen cosole wise...there was no gain involved...Factor 5 and Ninja theory, didnt make games on ps2. HS looks nice but BK will look amazing....no doubt it will look good, but the CG vid didnt look amazing though

Anyway, you seem to turn almost everything MS does to positive spin, good job!

peace

BTW, calling Ninja theory one of the best devs??? They need to release HS before they prove themselves.

 

[Cuth]

No, my view comes from hindsight. Even then, they picked right. Nobody knows what a game is going to do until it hits retail and reviews. So no, Microsoft's view was correct. Gears will hit 5 million in its lifetime and Mass Effect will likely be top 3 game this year and destroy NPD the month it comes out. Shane and Robbie did right with this decision. Stopped making bullshit games and started swinging for the fences with their first party efforts.

I think Microsoft got burned enough the previous gen, when they've gone after several small developers with some good ideas (Blinx, Voodoo Vince... maybe even Azurik and the others had some good ideas on paper) and obtained not-so-good games and sales.

Now they seem more interested in safe bets, looking for developers who have already proven their value.

 

[Neomoto]

For the ones that care; here is what Beth Llewelyn from Nintendo had to say about LittleBigPlanet:

“(On Sony’s LittleBigPlanet) It’s very interesting, it looks like it could be a very fun product. It seemed to have elements that Nintendo has done, it was very cute.” - Beth Llewelyn Nintendo of America’s Director of PR

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

snip

If you paid attention to the progression of the conversation, he quoted my post also references Factor 5 and Ninja Theory. That's why I replied w/ them in my post.

BTW, calling Ninja theory one of the best devs??? They need to release HS before they prove themselves.

Ninja Theory? Heavenly Sword has to prove to be good first. It looks nice though. It's going in direct competition to Sony's best IP IMHO and that is God of War and copying it to an extent. I don't know if that is a good or bad thing yet.

You obviously didn't pay attention to a damn thing I said. Rare has a long history of pushing consoles graphically. Rare has always been great at graphics. It doesn't matter if a CG looks good, haven't you Sony fans learn about CG biting you in the ass? PEACE

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

I think Microsoft got burned enough the previous gen, when they've gone after several small developers with some good ideas (Blinx, Voodoo Vince... maybe even Azurik and the others had some good ideas on paper) and obtained not-so-good games and sales.

Now they seem more interested in safe bets, looking for developers who have already proven their value.

Since Shane Kim has started running Microsoft Game Studios, their outlook changed. The 360 presents the best platform for third parties as a result. Just going from this board, seemingly people that favor Sony's console hate multiplatform releases, and they have a history of faltering on Nintendo consoles. Well, in comparison to the sales of Nintendo games. Look at how many 3rd party games Xbox 360 owners have made million sellers. Microsoft's game output has slowed because they want blockbusters instead of just throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks. Every game that comes out will receive an absurd amount of promotion. Bioware said that they will receive similar levels to Gears as far as advertising. Forza has the television show. Only God knows what the hell will happen with Halo 3 comes this year. Blue Dragon should get a lot as well.

 

[watership]

Damn straight it's cool. It's far more accessible than XNA

XNA can make game, LBP can make variations on one game. They're are a little different.

 

[Funky Papa]

KFC was a great game. Plus MS, dicked around with the dev quite a bit.

 

[nelsonroyale]

If you paid attention to the progression of the conversation, he quoted my post also references Factor 5 and Ninja Theory. That's why I replied w/ them in my post.





You obviously didn't pay attention to a damn thing I said. Rare has a long history of pushing consoles graphically. Rare has always been great at graphics. It doesn't matter if a CG looks good, haven't you Sony fans learn about CG biting you in the ass? PEACE

hahah, never even paid attention to the cg shit....well rare games look goo enough, though great? Viva pinata does to some extent, the others not so much? The art really hurts them, really.

Anyway, have fun with the viral vitriol

peace

 

[cedric69]

I still think MS should have pulled a few surprises out of the bag. They do have an awesome line up for this year, I'm not disagreeing with that, but if they would have come out with a few new games it would draw more attention to them. Now I'm more hyped for the PS3, simply because they showed some new stuff.

Do you need that when everybody already knows this Fall you're getting Halo 3?

 

[Wollan]

Do you need that when everybody already knows this Fall you're getting Halo 3?

It will be a fun game those two weeks.

 

[Haunted]

That's pretty silly. LBP is a GAME for a console. XNA is a coding suite for the computer, one that lets you DESIGN your core gameplay mechanics, assets, physics system, presentation, and game engine. "Accessibility" has nothingto do with it (though it is incredibly accessible). One is a blank canvas (XNA), and the other is a 'paint by numbers' (LBP).

They are not even remotely comparable.

Shut up! I'll wait for my Last Alarm shmup made with the Little Big Planet editor, thankyouverymuch.

 

[Confidence Man]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5765673&postcount=13

I meant who credible said they passed on it.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

It will be a fun game those two weeks.

Top WW Xbox LIVE Titles on Xbox 360 to date:

1 Halo 2
2 Gears of War
3 Hexic HD
4 Call of Duty 2
5 Ghost Recon 3
6 Call Of Duty 3
7 Oblivion
8 PGR3
9 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six® Vegas
10 Perfect Dark Zero

So, you mean "two weeks" in the Grant Morrison, Hypertime, a second is like a grain of sand on the beach, time is a false human construct sense, right?

 

[bud]

Ninja Theory? Heavenly Sword has to prove to be good first. It looks nice though. It's going in direct competition to Sony's best IP IMHO and that is God of War and copying it to an extent. I don't know if that is a good or bad thing yet.

How is HS going in direct competition with GoW?

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

How is HS going in direct competition with GoW?

Same genre. Gameplay looks reminiscent of God of War. Comparisons between the two are inevitable and the timeframe between the two are close. Microsoft will learn this same lesson I presume when Shadowrun comes out when Halo 3 is a few months down the road. Both Shadowrun and Heavenly Sword might be great in their own right, GoW2 and Halo 3 take a bit of steam out of their potential sales. Consumer money is a finite entity. My stance was primarily on sales.

 

[MCD]

Where is the news source?

 

[NinSoX]

Sony fans are defensive when Sony is ridiculed and defensive when Sony is praised. This thread proves it.

 

[blindrocket]

Well to be fair, after Kung-Fu Chaos, would you be interested in the studios next game?

Hell yeah, I love Kung Fu Chaos.

 

[PG2G]

Hell yeah, I love Kung Fu Chaos.

Same here. Aside from the racism, it was a damn good game.

 

[bud]

Same genre. Gameplay looks reminiscent of God of War. Comparisons between the two are inevitable and the timeframe between the two are close. Microsoft will learn this same lesson I presume when Shadowrun comes out when Halo 3 is a few months down the road. Both Shadowrun and Heavenly Sword might be great in their own right, GoW2 and Halo 3 take a bit of steam out of their potential sales. Consumer money is a finite entity. My stance was primarily on sales.

But GoW2 is out in a couple of days while HS won't come for another couple of months. Besides, they're on two different systems. I can understand the SR and H3 comparison but these games are released on the same system while HS and GoW2 are not.

Also, HS is a killer-app (no games lol) while SR is not

 

[szaromir]

Also, HS is a killer-app (no games lol) while SR is not

Did you play them?

How Halo 3 can affect Shadowrun sales or GoW2 Heavenly Sword sales is beyond me. Release date difference is in both cases bigger than a month and it's not like FPS fans won't buy Shadowrun because there'll be Halo 3 in six months or GoW fans won't buy Heavenly Sword because they can play once more their GoW on their old PS2.

 

[PleoMax]

It will be a fun game those two weeks.

You don't even try to hide it anymore do you?

Don't you have some Resistence to play? Oh shit i went there.

 

[J-Rzez]

For the ones that care; here is what Beth Llewelyn from Nintendo had to say about LittleBigPlanet:

I would love to know these elements... Incredible HD mindblowing graphics? Perhaps the crazy physics? Maybe the uploading and downloading user-created content? Or cute characters... It's a shame people are trying to calm the storm of hype this game is getting...

There's elements that were in other Ninty games... What's that? Cute characters and nice colors? Maybe that it's fun? Must be, nobody else makes fun games outside of Ninty...

 

[Draft]

You don't even try to hide it anymore do you?

Don't you have some Resistence to play? Oh shit i went there.

Hahah, yeah pretty blatant troll.

 

[gutter_trash]

having the 360 and the PS3 in competition is one of healthyest things for this gen.

they are forced to out think and outperform one anther leading the great competition that delivers more content for us.

I just wish the Nintendo would be more involved with their Online strategy, Nintendo better evolve their Online philosophy

 

[Forsete]

Hahah, yeah pretty blatant troll.

Pot kettle black etc.

 

[Draft]

Pot kettle black etc.

Find the post where I troll LBP.

edit: in fact please find any trolls because I am ON NOTICE and can't seem to cough w/o getting banned for 3 days.

 

[Forsete]

Find the post where I troll LBP.

edit: in fact please find any trolls because I am ON NOTICE and can't seem to cough w/o getting banned for 3 days.

I am ON NOTICE

For trolling? Enough said.

 

[NinSoX]

Find the post where I troll LBP.

edit: in fact please find any trolls because I am ON NOTICE and can't seem to cough w/o getting banned for 3 days.

He can't. He's just assuming you're pro Xbox because of your avatar probably :lol

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

So, you mean "two weeks" in the Grant Morrison, Hypertime, a second is like a grain of sand on the beach, time is a false human construct sense, right?

Maybe he's talking about all of the 360 multiplayer games that are only hot for a couple weeks and then nobody plays them anymore.

Even then one wonders why PGR3 and Perfect Dark Zero are still up there.

EDIT: Oh wow Call of Duty 2 is still up there :lol . Dunno why Oblivion and Hexic are there but whatever.

 

[Draft]

For trolling? Enough said.

Still waiting on that post.

 

[PleoMax]

Dude, there's not once soul on earth that could look at that presentation video of LBP and not fall in love with the damm game.

The game is just tits.

 

[Forsete]

Still waiting on that post.

I didnt say anything about LBP as far as I recall.

Why are you on notice?

 

[RavenFox]

“(On Sony’s LittleBigPlanet) It’s very interesting, it looks like it could be a very fun product. It seemed to have elements that Nintendo has done, it was very cute.” - Beth Llewelyn Nintendo of America’s Director of PR

Well said Nintendo. [big roll eyes]

 

[OokieSpookie]

Well said Nintendo. [big roll eyes]

Perhaps if they duct taped two more gamecubes into the bundle and threw in a dreamcast for luck...

 

[OokieSpookie]

Did you play them?

How Halo 3 can affect Shadowrun sales or GoW2 Heavenly Sword sales is beyond me. Release date difference is in both cases bigger than a month and it's not like FPS fans won't buy Shadowrun because there'll be Halo 3 in six months or GoW fans won't buy Heavenly Sword because they can play once more their GoW on their old PS2.

As far as Shadowrun and whatnot, I think anyone with half of a brain that wants to play it as well as alot of the upcoming like hellgate London, Bioshock, and other microsoft offerings will buy them on PC.
As far as the Heavenly Sword = God Of War crap, it is always easy to tell the people who just listen to board jibberish and look at screenshots instead of trying to find out real information about a game.

 

[Ghengis Cohen]

I always feel sorry for the people in threads like these that enjoy console manufacturers more than games.

 

[Oblivion]

Also, HS is a killer-app (no games lol) while SR is not

It is?

 

[Hunter D]

Why the hatred for Kung fu Chaos? It's by no means a bad game, especially considering it was the studio's first title. It's more likely that Ninja Theory would be dubious about working with MS as they did pretty much zero marketing for it.

KFC was a bad game IMO.The fighting engine was no where near as good as SSBM. The did look really good, but once I played through, I didn't bother with the multiplay and traded it in.

Edit: I find it funny that KFC has a lot of fans now. When the game was released I don't remember anyone saying it was a good game.

 

[Napoleonthechimp]

I would love to know these elements... Incredible HD mindblowing graphics? Perhaps the crazy physics? Maybe the uploading and downloading user-created content? Or cute characters... It's a shame people are trying to calm the storm of hype this game is getting...

There's elements that were in other Ninty games... What's that? Cute characters and nice colors? Maybe that it's fun? Must be, nobody else makes fun games outside of Ninty...

Well said Nintendo. [big roll eyes]

Perhaps if they duct taped two more gamecubes into the bundle and threw in a dreamcast for luck...

Can't you guys just let it go? She's a Nintendo employee, what do you expect her to say?

 

[PepsimanVsJoe]

Edit: I find it funny that KFC has a lot of fans now. When the game was released I don't remember anyone saying it was a good game.

Ditto.

 

[Son of Godzilla]

having the 360 and the PS3 in competition is one of healthyest things for this gen.

they are forced to out think and outperform one anther leading the great competition that delivers more content for us.

That's funny, because from these seats it just looks like they are trying to rape the consumer before the other one can.