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Microsoft officially pulls DRM from Xbox One, announces new policies
- Thread starter chubigans
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OK, cool! Thanks.
Also:
http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=sv_vg_11
Looks like Mr. X1 is leading the chart.
It is a giant corporation. It wouldn't have been up to one person. Most likely the MS board would've discussed it. It's all about dividends. Money, money, money, moneeyyyyy!
Because PS4 Day one edition is sold out since last week i suppose.
No, you should like smaller businesses dealing with used games and boycott gamestop for their abysmal staff and ridiculous prices at least here in europe.
I would have loved to see the changes in sales estimates. Must have been pretty brutal.
Pretty pathetic strategic handling by microsoft. A twelve year old could've told Microsoft what would have happened if they failed to collude with Sony on aligning used game policy. Basic game theory any MBA would get. The entire management team should be replaced immediately.
Pretty pathetic strategic handling by microsoft. A twelve year old could've told Microsoft what would have happened if they failed to collude with Sony on aligning used game policy. Basic game theory any MBA would get. The entire management team should be replaced immediately.
I understand people's desire to keep hold of their own games, but for me I have never really been into playing older games on current systems, so have never really been bothered about backwards compatibility. When I get a new system, I play the new games for that system.
Likewise I don't think I have ever turned on my OG Xbox since having a 360, and I have never gone back to my Atari ST, or Speccy 48k. In fact I am unsure if they are still in the house or have gone. If I wan't a bit of nostalgia there is web based retro stuff, there is youtube, but to be honest I would only want to see them for five minutes, then the novelty has worn off.
I don't tend to buy second hand, but I see that as a major sticking point with people as it is obviously a cheaper way to pick up games. That said, the second hand market price is a bit of a joke. Usually you are looking to get £10 maybe off a 6 month old game? If, and its a big IF, Microsoft followed steam's way of doing things with bundles, sales and dicsounts, then you could be paying the same or less digitally as you would in the traded game section at you local store.
I like steam. I like having everything with me. I like getting stuff for cheap off steam. I really liked the sound of the 10 friends system, if that really was as it sounded. I liked the sound of DRM allowing for instanmt switching between games, so I could do a few laps in Forza while waiting for my Battlefield lobby to fill up.
I can totally see why some people would have been shocked by the policies, but when you delve a bit deeper I think people would have got over it pretty quickly and got on with the new generation and its benefits.
All this centres around Microsoft holding up their side of the bargain though, but with the scale of consumer pressure that has been used in getting them to reverse their policies, being used instead to pressure them on sharing (which looks like it was going to happen), and cheap digital games (which is where I suspect they may not have jumped in), we could have seen something really inetersting.
Likewise I don't think I have ever turned on my OG Xbox since having a 360, and I have never gone back to my Atari ST, or Speccy 48k. In fact I am unsure if they are still in the house or have gone. If I wan't a bit of nostalgia there is web based retro stuff, there is youtube, but to be honest I would only want to see them for five minutes, then the novelty has worn off.
I don't tend to buy second hand, but I see that as a major sticking point with people as it is obviously a cheaper way to pick up games. That said, the second hand market price is a bit of a joke. Usually you are looking to get £10 maybe off a 6 month old game? If, and its a big IF, Microsoft followed steam's way of doing things with bundles, sales and dicsounts, then you could be paying the same or less digitally as you would in the traded game section at you local store.
I like steam. I like having everything with me. I like getting stuff for cheap off steam. I really liked the sound of the 10 friends system, if that really was as it sounded. I liked the sound of DRM allowing for instanmt switching between games, so I could do a few laps in Forza while waiting for my Battlefield lobby to fill up.
I can totally see why some people would have been shocked by the policies, but when you delve a bit deeper I think people would have got over it pretty quickly and got on with the new generation and its benefits.
All this centres around Microsoft holding up their side of the bargain though, but with the scale of consumer pressure that has been used in getting them to reverse their policies, being used instead to pressure them on sharing (which looks like it was going to happen), and cheap digital games (which is where I suspect they may not have jumped in), we could have seen something really inetersting.
bigbaldwolf86
Banned
In the UK the X1 isn't even in the top 20
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/bestsellers/2013/videogames
Edit: I checked and it's at number 70
swordsman720
Banned
The PS4 also seems to be split up between different launch bundles. Add those systems together and I'm sure the number is much higher.
I think Sony is in the spot now where they thought they would be before the infos about all the XB1 stuff came up. They were prepared for another HD twin race generation but this time with more capable hardware then PS3 vs XB360.
The DRM stuff and negativity which came up was a huge gift for them which is partly nullified now. They still ride on wave of the last weeks now but the preorder ratio will definiteley switch/even out more now.
MS also avoided an Amazon review desaster for the XB1.
I think I've seen these explanations at least 50 times now. I think we need a sticky thread just to explain this so we don't get the "Xbox 180 is now #1 on Amazon!" post anymore.
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/06/19/xbox-one-will-require-day-one-update
I guess something cool came outta this.
I guess something cool came outta this.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
googleplex
Member
Both system will have games. Many of the same games actually. But one system will be cheaper, smaller and more powerful. And one company didn't just try and fuck us all in the ass.
No Microsoft gets no passes on this one.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
But that is the "already-mega successful" part.MS gave him a wad of cash to have another developer make his game for Xbox.
That's what he knows.
Kinect 2 makes the Xbox One far more attractive to me than the PS4. Especially now that Sony doesn't have the free online advantage.
That sentiment might not be popular on GAF, but GAF is a tiny, tiny portion of the market.
googleplex
Member
Yes please continue to tell us our opinions don't matter. And I'm sure you'll be very happy with your Xbox.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Hulkamania78
Banned
Try I also think we might see a system boost to the XB1 now to compete with what Sony are offering because on a spec sheet the PS4 pisses all over the One.
DeFiBkIlLeR
Banned
Still more expensive than PS4
Still less powerful than PS4
Still no user upgradeable hard drive
Still needs Kinnect
Still the same bunch of corporate cunts in charge that came up with this disaster in the first place.
...still not buying Xbox.
Still less powerful than PS4
Still no user upgradeable hard drive
Still needs Kinnect
Still the same bunch of corporate cunts in charge that came up with this disaster in the first place.
...still not buying Xbox.
Hours Left
Member
And so the internet has won the fight against... connecting to the internet.
Lord Griegous
Member
Awesome news for gamers. I am still not getting one, but this is excellent news.
Way to go Internetz!
Way to go Internetz!
Marked_Bravado
Banned
Hahaha. Keep telling yourself that. Sony GAF killed it with their NoDRM push. And those preorder numbers speak for themselves.
But the fight to understand an issue rages on apparently.
googleplex
Member
Hours Left
Member
What are you referring to exactly?
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Marked_Bravado
Banned
Haha.
It wasn't purely about Internet check ins the largest complaint was the retooling of ownership rights.
Hours Left
Member
Well, I would hope most people understand that those go hand-in-hand.
Fair enough. But your post made it seem that connection to the Internet was the only issue when it was not.
stevematic
Member
While I'm still unsure of support Microsoft, I may consider getting the X1 alongside the PS4.