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Microsoft officially pulls DRM from Xbox One, announces new policies
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elcuervo75
Banned
I personally don't think they changed because of gamer's outcry, or Sony. They were so dedicated to their control policies.
I think they changed for one reason only ... when they looked at pre-order numbers of Xbone vs. PS4.
I think they changed for one reason only ... when they looked at pre-order numbers of Xbone vs. PS4.
Did anyone notice this too on Major Nelson's twitter?
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I cant see it, can you tell me what you mean?
Hard to tell when people are joking. Are you really saying you think MS is going to take secret video of people? People will be able to check and see if anything like that is happening and it would destroy MS.
UberTag
Member
Just catching up on this now news now as my attention was consumed with work, Animal Crossing, my Bruins and real life.
Frankly, I'm shocked Microsoft so readily pulled the plug on these policies based on a couple of weeks worth of pre-order commitments (one of which I made) after months of uproar online and steadfast stubborness on their part. It's absolute craziness... and I'm not sure whether the prompt reversal at this late juncture will be enough to undo the damage they've inflicted upon themselves over the past 6 months.
What can be said if nothing else is that this gen is going to continue to be wholly unpredictable. I'm still making the PS4 my first purchase as it's going to be hard to trust Microsoft not to reverse course again on these decisions and implement variations of them partway into the Xbox One lifecycle if given the opportunity.
But I may not be so dedicated towards taking the rare launch day console splash as my primary intent was to "deliver my message as a consumer" and apparently that message has already been delivered.
Frankly, I'm shocked Microsoft so readily pulled the plug on these policies based on a couple of weeks worth of pre-order commitments (one of which I made) after months of uproar online and steadfast stubborness on their part. It's absolute craziness... and I'm not sure whether the prompt reversal at this late juncture will be enough to undo the damage they've inflicted upon themselves over the past 6 months.
What can be said if nothing else is that this gen is going to continue to be wholly unpredictable. I'm still making the PS4 my first purchase as it's going to be hard to trust Microsoft not to reverse course again on these decisions and implement variations of them partway into the Xbox One lifecycle if given the opportunity.
But I may not be so dedicated towards taking the rare launch day console splash as my primary intent was to "deliver my message as a consumer" and apparently that message has already been delivered.
dragonelite
Member
Yeah, that's pretty obvious.
All the "we won't change anything" rhetoric that they have been putting out lately says a lot in this regard.
Along with the attitude of "everyone will end up getting the system anyway, just look at our exclusives!".
In the end, the only thing they care about is making money, like just about every company. So when you see the system being pummelled like this, followed by such a drastic back peddling on most of their major "features", it's pretty clear why they made this decision.
But in the end "your feedback matters" sounds a heck of a lot better than "we're changing our anti-consumer policies because most people wouldn't even buy our crap".
Majukun
Member
come on give this guy a break..screwing us is his job,it's how he put food on his table.
Forgive me Major!
Majukun
Member
i'm just saying that we should not give any weight to what a pr guy says in the first place,you can't expect them to tell you the truth..we already know that all he was saying until now was utter bullshit..but it's his job..given his position he couldn't say "i'm sorry i was wrong/lying" even if he wanted to
Don't feel bad...He's a fuckin' mouthpiece for a mega-corporation with no opinions of his own and he's well compensated for it.
You don't seriously want me to actually ask him that do you? What do you think he would say?...
shakin_haitian
Banned
Yeah, they removed the DRM until they get a solid user base, and then BAM.
Flipping switches since 2003
At least he has humor.
Oh yeah, he is so self aware, funny and cool. Have you seen his bear plushie hat?
Totally likeable guy.
I said the same last night. He is one of the most well-heard mouthpieces for all things X-Box but obviously too junior to get timely memos.
Such is the trials of a talking head.
RBelong2Us
Member
How can anyone in their right mind trust Microsoft with the Xbox anymore even with this announcement? They have proven to not be for the consumer. They folded under pressure after seeing the destruction that's already been done so far away from release, they had no choice, it was gonna get worse for them.
They dealt their hand and got exposed.
They dealt their hand and got exposed.
Well, we could show our support for their decision to remove the DRM, and then we speak with money, which businesses like, and then we don't have to worry about trusting them. Or, we can trust that they listen to money. And that's all that you can expect with a corporation, right?
I think that's what region free means
You think? Basically question is whether it will be possible to use let's say UK Live acc. while being connected from "unsupported" country.
Really? Titanfall, Crimson Dragon, Quantum Break, Below, Sunset Overdrive all look "TERRIBLE"?
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
So,round 2
(Can anyone add nodrm and usedgame logo on the belt btw)
(Can anyone add nodrm and usedgame logo on the belt btw)
Titanfall? Not Exclusive
Crimson Dragon? Wait and see
Quantum Break? Movie
Below? Probably great, but a lot more good looking indies on PS4
Sunset Overdrive? Insomniac doing another FPS after their last one wasn't so hot.
Fox Mulder
Member
Sure, it's his job to spin the shit that rolls downhill from his superiors, he still came off as a clown though.
Maybe MS learned to respect their consumers a little more instead of taking them for granted and talking to them like idiots.
lovegames718
Banned
IDK why? The damage has been done and although Microsoft can gain some traction Sony still has alot of ammunition. The Xbone didnt just have Drm as a negative, it also has the fact that its less powerful (no matter how anyone tries to spin it its less powerful by a good margin), Kinect always on, Kinect centered games that will be focus again and the fact that its more expensive. Sonys Pr team can easily latch on and say " Why pay 100 more for a weaker system, welcome to the future Ps4 "Greatness awaits". Only some Core will eat this Pr bs from Microsoft but for others starting all the way back from their lies with the RROD situation this debacle and their relentless greed has only cemented the crap company that they are. They tried to get away with murder and Sonys ps4 consumer friendly system and the slaughtering at the pre order rates made them back track.
I respect the few Microsoft faithfuls that opened their eyes but even many of their core sheep didnt care about the DRM policy and the other things. People going back to Xbox after this Microsoft news should be ashamed of themselves as its only sending Microsoft a message "sure shaft us whenever you like and whenever we get mad recant and everything will be ok". It was the same with RROD. Microsoft knowingly sold faulty hardware knowing it would screw hundreds of thousands of consumers and initially lied about the situation and didn't honor anyone's RROD systems if they passed the one year warranty. Consumers take Microsoft to court and they admit fault only due to litigation and are forced to extend warranty to 3 years and all of a sudden "wow Microsoft is awesome they care!!!" seriously some ppl deserve to be shafted without lube.
Opus Angelorum
Member
They are terrible in your opinion.
Wolves Evolve
Member
Yeah let's not go crazy. I've been spitting hatred at Microsoft all month and I wanted them to die in a fire, but let's not drag down interesting game projects. Quantum Break was super impressive visually, Sunset Overdrive could be stylish (once it's made), Crimson Dragon is in one of the best game series ever, and TitanFall is the first serious next-gen attempt to end the CoD/Battlefield madness.
IOnEI Falcon
Member
You forgot the most important one...dat Killer Instinct!
RedNumberFive
Banned
I'm not going to claim that any of these games are "terrible", but outside of Crimson Dragon I find them very uninteresting. That D4 game was probably the most compelling "exclusive" that they announced.
HAHAHA Well played!
It was probably REAL easy actually. Didn't the E3 Hardware not have the mandatory check-ins and internet stuff?
If the developers had ANY kind of intelligence at all, it would be REAL easy to patch that crap out.
Amazon is now selling a lot more xbone games, so it looks like people may have been resigned to going DD only, and now are preordering disc at a decent clip. This will probably shift a few console units there way as well.
I guess its better to be laughed at than hated?
Now drop the damn camera, nobody wants it...and it can see me nude 0_o
I guess its better to be laughed at than hated?
Now drop the damn camera, nobody wants it...and it can see me nude 0_o
Because they've provided me a great experience with Xbox/Xbox 360 in the past and I'm convinced they will do so with Xbox One as well. I give a shit on PR, Don Hattrick or any Always Online shit, due the fact I'm an online gamer anyways.
So I will of course support Xbox in the future because I like the brand, I like the franchises and I have fun. And that's the most important thing for me. Having fun and a good time.
Opus Angelorum
Member
And we know that franchise never took off...
Let's not forget Below also.
That game is constantly forgotten among all of the other exclusives.
Really? Is this one of those, "not on my console of choice, so it sucks" posts?
On the other hand, EA is publishing it...That right there kills any chance of this being truly special.
lovegames718
Banned
Yeah that 60% failure rate at one point was a killer experience. To add insult to injury they lied about rrod even happening lol and only changed stance when dragged to court.
And yeah those kinect games oh my killer experiences . Def. better than without the controller
My god ppl are so brainwashed and for a few games would sell their soul!!!! Yeah you support a company that blatantly shafts their consumers with no regards whatsoever. ITs pathetic!
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Sunset Overdrive looks like the complete opposite of terrible.
Are you serious? Quantum Break calling a Movie?
What's your opinion on Heavy Rain then?
And Titanfall is Console Exclusive and "wait and see" is no good argument, yo troll.
I don't know why people keep thinking this. They won't do it simply because they fear the amount of backlash that would come if they did (it'd be way worse than it is now). It's the same reason why publishers don't use their own DRM, even though they have the ability to.
Maybe on the Xbox Two.
Why are you shitting on his experience with the Xbox brand? Are you fucking kidding me? None of this shit you spewed have nothing to do with what he was talking about.
You obviously have problems to accept other people opinions, right?