hodayathink
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Except that people aren't just not taking vacations, they aren't even taking their paid time off. Unless you're working a lot of overtime, you shouldn't be losing money by taking PTO.
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Millennials Are to Blame for America's Vacation Problem (Travel+Leisure)
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Except that people aren't just not taking vacations, they aren't even taking their paid time off. Unless you're working a lot of overtime, you shouldn't be losing money by taking PTO.
peteykirch
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Considering the majority of people in Congress and the House of Reps are baby boomers, and they pretty much decide where money is going. Yes, the baby boomers are most likely at fault.
butzopower
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SparkleMotion
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I never said "if everyone blames millenials, it must mean they are all wrong" nor are you paraphrasing what I said. You just made that up. I am not a man of straw. Do not make me out as one.
My issue is with the click bait nature of the titles and the style of writing in a lot of these articles. Articles that used to be articles on a subject are now framed as "millenials are ruining [blank]" which is reductive and dumb when the context is much more complex than that. One of the ones in the image I used called millenials "promiscuous" while blaming them for killing McDonalds and within the article they call them "sluts" just because millenials exhibit less brand loyalty compared to older demographics while there simply exists more options today than there was a decade ago.
This I have issue with. It was cute at first. Now it's memes in journalism. If the article was framed as "Issues that are currently happening" then I might be more inclined to read it. Articles framed as "millenials are ruining [blank]" make me cringe.
Eh I get unlimited vacation but am salaried so I will get paid regardless.
I guess if I were to leave there would be a difference in being paid out based on unused vacation but that may be for hourly employees only anyways.
Modern work culture just isn't like that now. I mean sure you have time to take off, but when? You could just take it if you want, but then you aren't there when something needs to be done. Suddenly instead of "he never takes time off!" it's "I can't believe he left us hanging here like this!" It's a side effect of making everyone do the jobs of two/three people. You have a reason for it and it's a good one, but the social implications in an over worked environment will bleed through.
Our culture is very "what have you done for me lately" and in a job environment where you can be quickly replaced, it's creates paranoia.
drunkendonuts
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it's pretty rough. like, last year i finally worked a job where i earned paid vacation days, by the end of last year i had accrued almost two weeks worth. turns out i only ended using one paid day off just to make a border run to renew my work permit (US citizen working in canada). when i left, my HR person was asking me "what!? you have all these vacation days! how come you didn't take them?" and i just kind of like nervously laughed. felt pretty bad, but they did pay the remaining days out to me at the end of the year. i regret it now because i wish i could have maybe taken a trip somewhere, would have been nice.
Christopher
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I got about 4/5 weeks a year vacation and I use hem wisely a cruise is very afforable.
Pttth. Try being a black, female, Millennial. Do I get a prize.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
100% this.
Millennials aren't the ones putting the pressure on themselves to skip vacation days.
Yup. There was a study that people who work at companies with unlimited pto take less time off than industry average.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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Neither internet bills nor cellphone bills are necessities. Yes, life is increasingly difficult to manage without both, but they are not necessary for survival the way food utilities and shelter are.
As for your points about a gaming setup having to lower to using IKEA and Walmart furniture, come on bro. You can't be that dense.
Skellig Gra
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What a load of shit.Baby Boomer COO at my last job said that if you took PTO you had to make up the time later.)
In the past, if debt based economies became too bloated, the people would rise up and demand unfair debts to be cleared. But in our modern "civil" society that is no longer the case.
BlueEyedBeast
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I remember about a year and a half ago I was working somewhere where there was literally not enough staff to cover the organizations daily duties, let alone allow employees any time off. I recall days when people would call in sick and I would literally work frantically to try to cover their operations (which I depended on to do MY job). It was almost impossible for me to sit still during lunch because every minute I just sat there was a minute I fell further behind.
It reached the point where I had to resign to myself that I wasn't doing anything wrong: the work just could not feasibly be completed in the provided circumstances.
Luckily Ive since moved to a better job with a better working environment, but I can still see traces of higher ups trying to squeeze every last drop of usefulness out of each employee (by keeping required company quotas the same despite losing employees and not increasing wages).
It reached the point where I had to resign to myself that I wasn't doing anything wrong: the work just could not feasibly be completed in the provided circumstances.
Luckily Ive since moved to a better job with a better working environment, but I can still see traces of higher ups trying to squeeze every last drop of usefulness out of each employee (by keeping required company quotas the same despite losing employees and not increasing wages).
AstroNut325
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Guilty.
I have 300+ hours of saved vacation. I'm the only one that can do the things I do at work. And if I take a vacation, things pile up and sh!t hits the fan. So while I'm "encouraged" to take vacation, I can't really do much of that. And at the same time, as much as it sounds contradictory, they can get rid of me with someone after training someone for 6-8 months.
I work extremely long hours. I'm doing my MBA so I can become more "valuable" to the company. I have spent almost no time with my family this past two weeks. My son keeps coming to me to spend time with me. Plus, I had to empty my entire life savings to get my home. So I'm a little on-edge about money.
I'm 34 years old and I take blood pressure medication due to all the stress.
I have 300+ hours of saved vacation. I'm the only one that can do the things I do at work. And if I take a vacation, things pile up and sh!t hits the fan. So while I'm "encouraged" to take vacation, I can't really do much of that. And at the same time, as much as it sounds contradictory, they can get rid of me with someone after training someone for 6-8 months.
I work extremely long hours. I'm doing my MBA so I can become more "valuable" to the company. I have spent almost no time with my family this past two weeks. My son keeps coming to me to spend time with me. Plus, I had to empty my entire life savings to get my home. So I'm a little on-edge about money.
I'm 34 years old and I take blood pressure medication due to all the stress.
Seriously, this. People act like PTO is a rare thing here. It's not.
My company pushes people to use their PTO since they realize that an occasional break is healthy and helps keep stress down. We get a large lump sum of hours at the start of the year to use how we want, and hours carry over to an extent.
Messofanego
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Schrodinger's Millennial
ChubbyHuggs
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The thing I really don't understand about people not taking vacation is why not just give yourself a three day weekend or four if you want to push it. It's not like you need to go all out and take a whole week or two off at once.
Well at least some people can live comfortably in America. 10 days for sick days or vacation combined for me. Wanna take vacation? Well roll the dice and hope you don't get sick and need those days later!
Fox Mulder
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I'm about to take 10 days and feel like an asshole.
Work environments pretty much discourage taking vacations because everyone is already overworked, and only get more dumped on when people are off.
Work environments pretty much discourage taking vacations because everyone is already overworked, and only get more dumped on when people are off.
Doominated
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First we're too lazy, now we work too hard. Ok.
entremet
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The article doesn't say it's rare. It's saying Millenials aren't taking them for presumable job security reasons.
I wasn't referring to the article.
Septimus Prime
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Leave it to those good for nothing Millennials to be all indecisive.
That's why I mentioned understaffing. Many companies try and scrape by with as few employees as possible to cut costs and this makes taking a vacation less attractive since you'll just come back to an absolute mess.
killertofu
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We don't really need iPhones tho
IdreamofHIME
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American Millennials, because of the USA's shitty vacation time policies.
I don't know 1 friend here in the UK that doesn't use their holiday hours, even if they don't go somewhere. They'll use it and just stay home watching Bargain Hunt and Judge Rinder. I'm entitled to 26 paid holidays days a year, you think I'm just gonna work that?
Now if I was in the USA and was somewhere were i didn't get paid for my vacation time? I probably would work through most of those hours. What a shitty way to treat employees.
I don't know 1 friend here in the UK that doesn't use their holiday hours, even if they don't go somewhere. They'll use it and just stay home watching Bargain Hunt and Judge Rinder. I'm entitled to 26 paid holidays days a year, you think I'm just gonna work that?
Now if I was in the USA and was somewhere were i didn't get paid for my vacation time? I probably would work through most of those hours. What a shitty way to treat employees.
Unknown Soldier
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I have a sneaking suspicion that Millennials wouldn't be getting blamed for everything if they controlled the media instead of the Baby Boomers.
I use my PTO because my company doesn't roll over or compensate PTO accumulated above the cap. I can leave PTO I've accumulated below the cap sitting there forever though which is nice when I'm saving up for longer vacations.
I use my PTO because my company doesn't roll over or compensate PTO accumulated above the cap. I can leave PTO I've accumulated below the cap sitting there forever though which is nice when I'm saving up for longer vacations.
butzopower
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Millennials told to save shit for rainy day but why you gonna take vacation on a rainy day?
I agree with everthing except for the job security point. There's never been job security, it's largely a myth because baby boomers grew up in a time of economic prosperity while the rest of the world was rebuilding after WWII. Auto companies began moving production overseas in the 30s and 40s, and we've also had the dot com crash.
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