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Netflix Proxy/VPN Discussion |OT| Discuss the use of Proxies and VPNs with Netflix.
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It's not like there's a great selection on Netflix anyway....
who the fuck subs for their D tier movie selection on top of the 20 actual good movies everyone has seen multiple times?
The Omega Man
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Hulu does it pretty efficiently, they detect most if not all vpn connections trying to fool them.
AzureSkies
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Wowfunhappy
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I wasn't aware it was possible to actively block VPN's.
If it is, why aren't all streaming sites doing it?
If it is, why aren't all streaming sites doing it?
Jacknapes
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I thought they "tried" this last year, guess it's another "attempt". I'll see how it goes with mine, could be days or weeks before anything could happen. And as an earlier message says, i'm sure the proxies will just change IP's and Netflix will just do 2 1/2 year or 1 full year purge.
Honestly, Netflix have a lot to lose in terms of sub numbers. If they offered a world-wide sub for twice what i'm paying, i'd sign up.
Honestly, Netflix have a lot to lose in terms of sub numbers. If they offered a world-wide sub for twice what i'm paying, i'd sign up.
Was that report that Canadian Netflix being the only place to get Force Awakens true?
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damn... i hope playmo.tv can sort it quick
DarkHeartedKill
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So...this is all your fault! I don't think it's a coincidence that this happened after you did that.
Ah, so as of recently it's better for movies. How good is it for shows though? I watch shows more than movies.
Yea, I use Hola Unblocker, it works everywhere except Hulu. I wonder if Netflix will block it...
Wanna know why this sucks for a horror fan?
I don't live in the USA but I used to watch a lot of horror rentals and buy discs in specialized shops. I had a regionless dvd player (gone for good now) which made it easier to buy the stuff they never imported to our region (which was a lot).
Then Netflix came. The two rental stores we had here went bankrupt. The DVD stores closed one by one. I practically stopped watching horror until I got a US Netflix VPN and found the selection there is staggering. In comparison if I click on my own Netflix horror section there's couple of dozen of the most mainstreams films everyone saw 20 years ago (Arachnophobia, End of Days, Faculty, Nightmare on Elm Street, motherfucking Anaconda, Scary Movie). Oh yeah, all the arthouse movie theaters also went bankrupt.
So in short, they erased all the competition and made sure I can't watch the films I wanna watch in any legal way.
I don't live in the USA but I used to watch a lot of horror rentals and buy discs in specialized shops. I had a regionless dvd player (gone for good now) which made it easier to buy the stuff they never imported to our region (which was a lot).
Then Netflix came. The two rental stores we had here went bankrupt. The DVD stores closed one by one. I practically stopped watching horror until I got a US Netflix VPN and found the selection there is staggering. In comparison if I click on my own Netflix horror section there's couple of dozen of the most mainstreams films everyone saw 20 years ago (Arachnophobia, End of Days, Faculty, Nightmare on Elm Street, motherfucking Anaconda, Scary Movie). Oh yeah, all the arthouse movie theaters also went bankrupt.
So in short, they erased all the competition and made sure I can't watch the films I wanna watch in any legal way.
Huh? In South America(at least in Argentina) I don't see that many telenovelas and the catalog, it isn't like the US one but it isn't as bad as the UK one appears to be.
Oppo
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it was always in the wind, a shame though. I know they don't want to do it.
their answer is simply to fund everything themselves, then they sign their own global rights. so far it seems like a pretty good plan.
I used to hop back and forth between CA and US netflix all the time but the selection varies wildly on both sides of the "fence".. sometimes US is better, sometimes CA is better, and all subjective of course.
their answer is simply to fund everything themselves, then they sign their own global rights. so far it seems like a pretty good plan.
I used to hop back and forth between CA and US netflix all the time but the selection varies wildly on both sides of the "fence".. sometimes US is better, sometimes CA is better, and all subjective of course.
What's the point of a VPN if the website you access using it can tell you are using a VPN ?
China does this and that's why most VPNs just don't work there.
Although I wonder if there is a way to get around this.
China does this and that's why most VPNs just don't work there.
Although I wonder if there is a way to get around this.
Air Zombie Meat
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Not surprised. I blame all the people that loudly advertise that they do this on the internet.
Mechanized
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It's funny considering how bad it was at launch, absolutely dreadful, now it's actually great.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
Sweden is great with movies but without Canada, UK and USA it's simply a good service. It's not like I'm going to stop subscribing if they start blocking but it'd be a shame. I doubt though that this golden reign can last. Too much pressure from suits.
Monochromaticx
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saw that coming when the announced their expansion.
teruterubozu
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Probably not much. I doubt the majority of their customers even know what a VPN is.
RoadHazard
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"If all of our content were globally available, there wouldn’t be a reason for members to use proxies or “unblockers” to fool our systems into thinking they’re in a different country than they’re actually in."
Yeah. Exactly. And Swedish Netflix is utter shit compared to US or even UK Netflix. I still don't use a proxy often, because there's still quite a lot I do want to watch from the Swedish library (and I avoid looking at the US library too much to spare myself the sadness), but we'll see how this develops.
...it is? Sure, there's some stuff. A handful of pretty recent movies. But overall it's not great. The library of series is better.
Yeah. Exactly. And Swedish Netflix is utter shit compared to US or even UK Netflix. I still don't use a proxy often, because there's still quite a lot I do want to watch from the Swedish library (and I avoid looking at the US library too much to spare myself the sadness), but we'll see how this develops.
...it is? Sure, there's some stuff. A handful of pretty recent movies. But overall it's not great. The library of series is better.
entremet
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Yep. It's a power user thing.
Chezzymann
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Screw the movie industry and their shitty region locking. I get its there for rights issues and legal things I don't understand but its still really shitty
Littlefang
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I'm guessing they're just blowing smoke to make all the entertainment companies happy. I feel like they threaten to do this like all the time and nothing ever changes. Why does the movie industry even care about this kind of thing? I mean the alternative is going to be piracy.
Shuggananas
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Netflix don't need this to be aware of it
This sucks so much. I can't watch TV-shows like Hannibal or Penny Dreadful on German Netflix - they are badly cut.
Currently there are only 40 of 110 titles on my List available in Germany. Enforce that block and I'm gone. And that's pretty sad, because I was a nonstop subscriber for years, even before it came to Germany - and I really like the service. Especially because it allows me to legally watch a lot of shows around the world.
Currently there are only 40 of 110 titles on my List available in Germany. Enforce that block and I'm gone. And that's pretty sad, because I was a nonstop subscriber for years, even before it came to Germany - and I really like the service. Especially because it allows me to legally watch a lot of shows around the world.
teruterubozu
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Glad I used Hola unblocker despite its risks. Would have sucked if I paid for it.
SuperBanana
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Netflix was the second highest subscribed tv/movie media in Australia before it even officially launched. A lot of people use VPN's.
SliceSabre
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That sucks but I totally get why they're doing it because the content creators they have to make deals with to get get content have them over a barrel.
Air Zombie Meat
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Yeah I guess so but the more people broadcasting you can do it means that more people are going to start using proxies until they can ignore it no longer.
Wowfunhappy
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Then why aren't all the video streaming sites blocking VPN's? Heck, why hasn't Netflix done it until now?
And why doesn't, say, China block it's citizens from using VPN's to get around firewalls?
I thought one of the points of VPN's is that they were very hard to detect.
storafötter
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I thought a new European union law was to come to effect that wouldnt allowing them to block foreign proxys within Europe? I noticed they have implemented this thing weeks ago already since I wanted to check the US Netflix due to the lack of X-Files.
Netherscourge
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Netflix is a business, beholden to local laws and regional licensing rights.
I strongly doubt Netflix is happy about losing customers as a result of this. They probably don't even want to do it considering it'll cost them a lot of money with lost subs.
Netflix would probably prefer to have one, single, universal, world-wide catalogue accessible to everyone. But they don't have the power to do that with anything except their own original Netflix content.
Everything else has to be negotiated with through the individual movie companies. Everything is timed. Everything is regional. It's all a big PITA, but that's the way of the world.
I strongly doubt Netflix is happy about losing customers as a result of this. They probably don't even want to do it considering it'll cost them a lot of money with lost subs.
Netflix would probably prefer to have one, single, universal, world-wide catalogue accessible to everyone. But they don't have the power to do that with anything except their own original Netflix content.
Everything else has to be negotiated with through the individual movie companies. Everything is timed. Everything is regional. It's all a big PITA, but that's the way of the world.
LordOfChaos
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First the Cad, then this...
yongeandcollege
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What pisses me off are the language options. I wouldn't need a DNS if I could consistently get Spanish audio in Canada. I use it to help my kids keep up their language.
I don't really understand this argument. I'm paying for Netflix, Netflix is getting my money. It shouldn't matter where I watch it and I use the service, because I can watch shows that are somewhere around the world on Netflix.
I can't do that anymore? I'm out, I'm not a paying customer anymore and Netflix is now getting none of my money. And it's not a policy that's encouraging potential new customers to come onboard, like a switch to no more parallel viewing - nobody will take my place because of this change.
They will end up with less paying customers because of this policy which gives them less money to buy new licenses.
I think the Swedish library is at best 5-10% of the USA one. I might have to cancel if they block my DNS service.
HideyoshiJP
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Japanese stuff is almost non-existent on American Netflix, outside of anime. If they block my VPN, they can 死ね.
teruterubozu
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They're getting pressure from movie and TV studios. It's not like they're doing this to piss off customers. Otherwise the movie and TV studios will go to Amazon or some other streaming service that abides by region.
Air Zombie Meat
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It's not about the customers though, it's what their business partners want. They don't give a damn if Netflix loses customers.
Atomic Playboy
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I agree with your unpopular opinion. I also like the refrain throughout this thread that this will increase piracy, which is ironic since using a proxy to access content that would normally not be available to you is, itself, a form of piracy. I'm not a big fan of international copyright laws or the way media companies set up exclusive deals that prevent content from being legally available to people in certain areas, but I don't think that gives users the moral high ground to legitimize piracy as though there was some nobility in accessing content that media companies don't want to sell you. I'm not saying people shouldn't do it, but it's completely fair for Netflix to try to close that loophole. It's also fair for users to vote with their wallets; if Netflix has shitty offerings in your region, absolutely cancel and let them know that you're not paying until certain content is made available.
Its not legal if you use a proxy.
Someone bought the rights for germany and you are robbing them.
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