bodeiseifer
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Its to early to day the lcd doesn't have these shortcomings, look at the psp 3000 screen problems, I fully expect the new lcd to have some display issues, no display technology in a mass market consumer device is infallible.
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New PS Vita LCD screen 'not inferior to OLED', insists Sony
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Its to early to day the lcd doesn't have these shortcomings, look at the psp 3000 screen problems, I fully expect the new lcd to have some display issues, no display technology in a mass market consumer device is infallible.
Ghost Slayer
Member
lol
inception ?
inception ?
Yeah people need to chill out about this. A quality IPS LCD is going to be just as good in terms of real world performance. You won't notice a difference unless you put them side by side in a dark room and compare black levels. OLED does have better response time/input lag as well, which is important in games. But there are plenty of LCDs with less than 1 frame of input lag when gaming. Unless you are competing at EVO or some Counter-Strike league finals you will be fine.
I hope we get more details on what panel they are using.
I hope we get more details on what panel they are using.
crazygambit
Member
I'll give you the black stains, but I haven't seen a hint of burn in in my launch Vita and I use it A LOT everyday (it's almost my only gaming platform). I think burn in fears, much like in modern plasmas are greatly exaggerated.
Nikodemos
Member
Indeed.
However, I was speaking generally about the differences between OLED and contemporary LCD tech, not specifically about the NuVita's panel (which - at least from what videos have surfaced as of yet - appears at least superficially to be near the higher end of the LCD quality spectrum).
PSX game looks fine on PSP
silver.tongue
Member
I don't mind the screen tech that much. It will help in brighter areas, and that's good.
My problem is that, right now, it looks like a cheap mock-up. Like a Tablet inserted into a cradle. Why the hell isn't the whole thing a single block like the original Vita?! WHY FFS?!
It looks like this:
HIDEOUS!
My problem is that, right now, it looks like a cheap mock-up. Like a Tablet inserted into a cradle. Why the hell isn't the whole thing a single block like the original Vita?! WHY FFS?!
It looks like this:
HIDEOUS!
LOL that hyperbole. Its not just the OLED that makes the picture quality decent but the tech inside the Vita. Scaling is a thing that is more dependent on software and processing power than the mere screen. Its a combination of both and the LCD inside the new vita will be just fine with any resolution.
boredandlazy
Member
Well actually, Sony are pushing their Triluminous LED displays much more prominently than anything OLED related. Don't get me wrong though, the OLED Vita is definitely my choice.
frankie_baby
Member
unfortunately that's what everyone says til it happens to them
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Isn't saying LCD is basically as good as OLED bad for marketing your OLED TVs that are super expensive?
MrChowderClams
Member
I think the greater factor here in the reduction of jaggies is the texture filtering, and not the OLED display.
Live Free or Die
Banned
You cannot tell which is better by just comparing screenshots. Wait till you can see it in person.
Monty Mole
Member
Bullshit. LCD does not look good in motion, especially at 60fps.
Celestial Mortal
Member
LCD > OLED
We must go deeper:
I know, not the same image. I'm not cool enough to have a JP PSN :c
The demo is up here in Hong Kong, hence my screenshot is of the English version.
Trogdor1123
Member
They should have stated that there was advantages to LCD like lower cost and what not and said they both have their own strengths... thats just me though.
Nikodemos
Member
Well, they didn't actually flat-out say "basically as good as". They said "not inferior", which is marketing-speak for "its has its own merits and, on average, balances out".
Betta Lines
Member
Correct. The OLED itself does nothing to 'smooth the jaggies'. If anything, because of the deep contrast and superior response in motion, the jaggies would be more apparent on an OLED. The smoothing is entirely down to the bilinear filtering, which will be just as effective on the LCD Vita.
Chief Icaroc
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Oh Snap. Whiteshirt, I'll ask for your opinion on my next television purchase.
We must go deeper:
I know, not the same image. I'm not cool enough to have a JP PSN :c
Oh my god, that picture of a picture of a 2000 Vita looks horrendous. Canceled my preorder, destroyed my Vita shrine, vomited into a sock, called the cops. I hope you're happy.
LCDs can be good as some smartphones already show but the first comparison shots we got point to a lower quality screen than the OLED.
Considering everything else about the device is also looking cheaper, I believe House isn't telling the truth.
I happily eat crow if it is true when we get better comparisons.
Considering everything else about the device is also looking cheaper, I believe House isn't telling the truth.
I happily eat crow if it is true when we get better comparisons.
So I am in the market for a Vita and my only exposure to OLED is the $2000 12" TV sony had out a couple years ago. The only person I actually know who has one is a technical idiot, so his "opinions" are difficult to make a purchase by.
New Vita or Old Vita?
I LOVE the idea of additional battery life but I would like to get one sooner than later. Will there be anything else that matters?
New Vita or Old Vita?
I LOVE the idea of additional battery life but I would like to get one sooner than later. Will there be anything else that matters?
Apparition
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The LCD screen used is excellent. It might have a slight yellowish tint but that's only noticeable from some angles. Most people won't notice/care especially if they have no OG Vita to compare it to. The buttons feel nicer to touch but the D-pad and analogue sticks are about the same. Not sure about the shoulder buttons.
I'm more worried about the super gloss. The rear touchpad is definitely way more glossy than the the one on the OG Vita.
I'm more worried about the super gloss. The rear touchpad is definitely way more glossy than the the one on the OG Vita.
There is the 1GB onboard memory I guess. If you aren't planning to buy digitally.
bodeiseifer
Member
Few days ago I bought a dsi xl and the lcd screens on that thing are memorising, so crisp no motion blurring like the ds lite, shame about the blacklight bleed but wow just wow, lcd screens can give amazing results.
H_Prestige
Banned
Sure. But it can never be an OLED.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
Stfu people and just buy a Vita. I want new games.
Nikodemos
Member
That's what every pseudo-tech guy said in 2011. We're in 2013...
OLED is far from perfect and LCD, really, has become better and better in recent years.
Okay Sony.
So why is Sony claiming that OLED TVs are the future then?
I mean, just look at a device like the HTC One - it's got a LCD display, yet it's miles ahead of - for example - the Samsung Galaxy S4.
No, LCD is just that bad.
When taken out of context.
thewhitehawk
Member
The problem is that you're not basing your judgement on eyes, you're basing it on a digital image taken by mediocre quality cameras of two differing displays and units at different angles and distances in a poorly, or unevenly, lit room, it's hardly enough to take definitive conclusions.
The ones who have seen the new display with their own eyes have said very few bad things about them, but I wouldn't take their words as facts.
I'm dying here. :-( Why couldn't it be matte?The LCD screen used is excellent. It might have a slight yellowish tint but that's only noticeable from some angles. Most people won't notice/care especially if they have no OG Vita to compare it to. The buttons feel nicer to touch but the D-pad and analogue sticks are about the same. Not sure about the shoulder buttons.
I'm more worried about the super gloss. The rear touchpad is definitely way more glossy than the the one on the OG Vita.
Well that's true but I have Vita oled and XEL-1 sony oled display and a LCD IPS lg monitor and I prefer the oled screens.
Zenaku
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When I first got a Vita, I remember the huge disappointment I felt when I first saw the screen. Maybe I just happened to buy a good TV, but the screen didn't look much different - if at all - to my 5-6 year old LCD in terms of colour. Even when I tried out PC remote play and had my PC screen on both my TV and the Vita's screen I couldn't see any discernible difference.
Not saying the new Vita's LCD screen will match the OLED, but the difference isn't that big if you have a decent LCD.
Not saying the new Vita's LCD screen will match the OLED, but the difference isn't that big if you have a decent LCD.
thewhitehawk
Member
There's nothing with you having a preference, and I apologise if you meant that post as a joke, but you shouldn't take those "crappy" cellphone pictures as irrefutable evidence.