VGChampion
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Melee was close to launch but was not a launch game.
Super Monkey Ball and Luigi's Mansion were fantastic though.
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New Super Mario Bros U no longer a launch title?
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Melee was close to launch but was not a launch game.
Super Monkey Ball and Luigi's Mansion were fantastic though.
ShockingAlberto
Member
In David Sheff's Game Over, he had a part about how absolutely hated the SNES launch was at the time by enthusiasts because Super Mario World looked like such a miniscule and uninventive leap over SMB3.
I've been thinking about that book a lot lately.
I've been thinking about that book a lot lately.
gamergirly
Member
There are enough Nintendo fans and Wii owners to make it sell out at launch regardless. Its 3 months after launch that NSMBU will show its staying poer
Why bump this thread?
Made me think there was news about the game not being a launch title for a second
Anticitizen One
Banned
The Wii-U Launch is already shaping up to be a failure and to me if you support that you are encouraging Nintendo to lower the bar. I am not going to reward failure and so I will purchase Wii U when it has real content to offer. I am sick of these weak ass console launches.
Have you ever seen a console launch before? Because this is a damn good one. Lots of different genres and some quality titles. It's almost as if people are complaining just for the sake of it.
oh you
can't wait to waste my money on shite games like NSMBU
Anticitizen One
Banned
wtf ive seen them all and this is easily one of the most pathetic. Where are the AAA standout titles that show what this system can do? All I see a minigame compilation, another zombie game, and another New Super Mario bros game (that is now going to be delayed on top of that)
I come from a time when consoles would launch with high profile titles like Soul Calibur, Super Mario 64, Halo, Rogue Squadron and Dead or Alive 3. What Nintendo is offering for launch isnt going to cut it with me.
NSMB? Wii Fit? 2 sequels to 2 of the highest selling titles this gen is not high profile? Zombi U? Pikmin? P-100? (Although I'm not sure the last 2 are launch, maybe launch window). You can't just disregard these because you don't like them.
Christberg
Member
Agreed. Hell, even the stack of late ports (sans NG3) are better than anything Ps3 or X360 had at launch. Say what you will about Arkham City but that game alone completely murders anything I've seen at any launch ever. Not that I'm planning on buying it... (double dipped already, triple is excessive)
The only issue I see at this point is that Nintendo Land might not be the killer app they're looking for. Then again, with how much shit Wii Sports got amongst the hardcore gaming community you never know. Could wind up an absolute MONSTER.
chertipros
Member
Would you rather have ONE big AAA title at launch and then an extreme software drought for months? Because that has been the case for every other console for years. And NSMB is not being delayed FFS
IrishNinja
Member
dammit, between this and Pikmin 3 i guess it's just P100 for me at launch? hoo boy, thankfully ive a wii backlog going
so you havent seen a good launch in over a decade now either, huh
so you havent seen a good launch in over a decade now either, huh
This is just a baseless rumor at this point, but I actually think it would be a smart move for Nintendo to delay NSMB to at least December.
Consoles sell well out of the gate out of newness alone. November also gives the U a natural holiday push. It's not like the 3DS situation, coming out in March with no compelling software. Even without Mario, there's some interesting stuff for U.
It would also give a chance for Zombi U and especially Rayman to sell some units. Getting some sales from 3rd party stuff might send a better message to the industry than "everyone bought a U and Mario and everything 3rd party sold like shit."
Face it, would the average consumer pick up two sidescrollers in one day? And having a choice, which mascot would they go with -- Mario or Rayman? Mario would keep the early momentum going with a December release and force attention on other offerings.
Consoles sell well out of the gate out of newness alone. November also gives the U a natural holiday push. It's not like the 3DS situation, coming out in March with no compelling software. Even without Mario, there's some interesting stuff for U.
It would also give a chance for Zombi U and especially Rayman to sell some units. Getting some sales from 3rd party stuff might send a better message to the industry than "everyone bought a U and Mario and everything 3rd party sold like shit."
Face it, would the average consumer pick up two sidescrollers in one day? And having a choice, which mascot would they go with -- Mario or Rayman? Mario would keep the early momentum going with a December release and force attention on other offerings.
Thank you for saying this, these are my feelings exactly! That launch is going to be a very strong one. Within a very short time of launch, and surely by years end there will be around 30 games already for Wii U. THIRTY. Even if you're not interested in all 30 of those games..and I'm certainly not, you cannot possibly say they are not trying their best for a super strong launch. Every genre will be represented at launch, with the exception of a JRPG. Outside of that, it's really all there. I just don't understand how people are saying this launch is "not enough", I respect the opinion but I'm just not getting it. It's launching with a Mario game for the first time in 16 years that looks like it'll be more or less a Super Mario World..that should be a huge thing right there. Most console launches struggle to launch with a dozen games..this one will be launching with 2 to 2 1/2 times that number. Maybe not all good games, maybe not the genres people are wanting at launch but they're doing their damndest to have a strong number of games ready for launch. Also important is it's launching with 3rd party support, too.
I want to address one thing because I've been reading it all summer and it's a silly thing. I think Nintendo's launch strategy is smart. Period. They're showing you all the stuff you can play on Day 1 immediately. The stuff that will make up their Holiday strategy for this system this year. Not games coming 2-3 years from now. I can tell you, what the average, regular person who will be buying one of these this Christmas will be far, far more concerned with what they can buy right there, that day in the store as part of the launch. They're not as concerned as others about what may or may not be coming a few years from now. At E3, what good would it have done if they'd flashed the logos and just the logos for SSB4, Retro's game, Mario Galaxy 3 or whatever that will be, and Zelda U on the screen? Especially when those games are all at LEAST a year and a half off probably? It doesn't do any good to do that. What they concentrated on that day was the smartest thing they could have done. They made the right choice on what to concentrate on. They'll show all that other stuff sometime next year most likely. Right now, they absolutely need to do everything possible to show what games you can buy and play on your Wii U THIS Christmas. 2013 and 2014 are a whole different story and should be dealt with starting next year. It needs to get off the ground, establish itself and get a good install base going this year. I think their strategy is sound just solely for this Christmas and most regular joe xconsumers would probably agree. It looks like a fantastic launch and even if I don't want say Wii Fit U, or some of the lesser known titles I cannot deny they have a hell of a line up just as far as number of titles go and good representation of nearly all genres too.
TwEE-N-Toast
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Only two of those games are impressive launch titles compared to the Wii U launch titles.
Reggie said it was up to 4 months. But then, it's Reggie.
And if I remember right, KI was never actually a launch title. Might be wrong though.
Soul Calibur
Super Mario 64
Halo: Combat Evolved
Star Wars Rogue Squadron 2: Rogue Leader
But that's four awesome titles
The whole launch windows logic is pretty dumb, if it isn't there at launch it isn't a launch game. Same thing that Sony did with Gravity Rush and that was four months after.
I'll probably be picking up a WiiU on launch day, but you are crazy if you think everything we've seen will be available Day 1. They use the term launch window very freely. I'd expect Q1 2013 to be nothing but the 'launch window' games.
And remember, Paper Mario for 3DS was shown at e3 2010. It's coming out this november, 2 and a half years later.
Now the WiiU could have a great launch and it very well might, but Nintendo's odd silence and NDA's on developers make things very curious. Knowing Nintendo, I have to expect the worst.
IrishNinja
Member
man if P100, Pikmin and NSMBU all dont show at launch, that's a pretty shitty launch.
IrishNinja
Member
me too, before this thread, hopefully that's not legit though. it'd be an excellent launch game, and if nintendoland gets bundled, i think it'd look a lot better.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Why is this thread revived?
Yeah... technically the console could launch with no games... cuz the games have a launch "window" ya see... as long as its within 4 months of the system's debut... it's a window
Freezie KO
Banned
After NSMB2, I hope they delay the shit out of that game and try to reinvent the wheel.
IrishNinja
Member
was it debunked?
Always a nugget of wisdom in every post you make.
Anticitizen One
Banned
P-100 is more than likely not a launch title, no idea about Pikmin but it's definitely not a MAJOR release, zombieU looks too simple and I have a feeling is just going to be red steel all over again. We are under the assumption that nsmbu is not a launch title Oh and wii fit can go fuck itself.
Anticitizen One
Banned
Bs the vita had a very good launch lineup software wise. Xbox 360 had call of duty 2 and two New RARE games which believe it or not was still a big deal at the time, and even ps3 had Resistance
The Xtortionist
Member
Eh, Pikmin 3 and Rayman would be good enough for me.
Metroid Hunter
Banned
Yup. Kit Ellis corrected his statement.
I expect:
NSMBU before the end of the year
Pikmin 3 in Q1 2013
P-100 in Q-4 2013
....and I think I'm being optimistic. Pikmin 3 could easily be a June title with P-100 slipping into Q1 2014. This is Nintendo we're talking about.
Hahahahahah....not a chance in hell. To quote the great Kamiya "Use your brain."
NSMBU = Launch
Pikmin 3 = Launch Window (Nov--March)
P-100 = Same as Pikmin 3.
We'll know in less than 2 weeks what will be there day 1. Remember, Nintendo isn't afraid to release something in December and Pikmin 3 could be that title.
End of story.
Silent_Ocarina
Member
There's no way Project P-100 gets pushed to Q4 2013, much less 2014.
Nintendo made it obvious that they wanted to focus on games in the launch window. Showing a game that would take another year and a half to complete would have gone against their goal.
Nintendo made it obvious that they wanted to focus on games in the launch window. Showing a game that would take another year and a half to complete would have gone against their goal.
IrishNinja
Member
ah, cool! hype back on then
i never get why people end posts with this. phil fish should've copywrote it.