sixteen-bit
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Them holding back this long isn't a good sign.
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New Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers Switch previews, screens, details
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Them holding back this long isn't a good sign.
Toadthemushroom
Member
The Eurogamer review comparing the game's price to SFV is a bit disingenuous considering that SFV has microtransactions, and it's £15 because of its age and the demand falling beneath supply at release.
Would have been better to compare it to the NEO GEO classics, which are also on Switch and a better buy for fighting game fans.
Will be interesting to see for sure. Both Lego City and Puyo Puyo Tetris (and Super Bomberman R) have maintained their price point since launch, it seems publishers tend to err on the side of caution and only print as many copies as they need to, before replenishing stock after selling out.
I can see the same happening with this (it's already sold out on Amazon US).
Would have been better to compare it to the NEO GEO classics, which are also on Switch and a better buy for fighting game fans.
Will be interesting to see for sure. Both Lego City and Puyo Puyo Tetris (and Super Bomberman R) have maintained their price point since launch, it seems publishers tend to err on the side of caution and only print as many copies as they need to, before replenishing stock after selling out.
I can see the same happening with this (it's already sold out on Amazon US).
The Arcade Archives titles are pretty bare bones, though,being strictly based on the MVS versions. So no dedicated multiplayer, training, or other home modes, in addition to the lack of online play. But they also cost a hell of lot less.
abstract alien
Member
I can get Street Fighter V for $20 bucks from multiple outlets right now according to Google, and it's the highest quality fighter this generation. The price comparison is definitely justified, and this is coming from someone that feels Street Fighter is the only franchise that can stand next to Mario (or non Nintendo franchises) and keep it's chin up.
Shadowhaxor
Member
I have a few up now
Evil Ryu theme - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7uobBx1eDA
Violent Ken theme - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIrUroTMpps&t=1s
MHWilliams
Member
Yes.
If Nintendo released Super Mario Bros 3 (from the Super Mario All-Stars collection) with an additional Switch motion control mode and the ability to play Wario and Waluigi for $40, I would not recommend that as a reviewer.
Your personal value proposition is up to you.
I agree with that .... my point is more how value ridiculously decrease with time
MHWilliams
Member
Cannot argue there!
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
Mario 64 DS?
Mario 64 DS had a lot more stars to collect than the original, along with new playable characters AND additional (some addicting) mini-games.
killatopak
Gold Member
Is it me or is the HD background look worse than the OG? The smoothing in it makes it look bad for me for some reason.
To be fair, the value behind this street comes more competitive gaming: online VS (as opposed to Neo Geo games), and on the go VS (as opposed to previous Street Fighter games). Still too expensive at list price, I'm buying it at 32 and I still wish it was cheaper. But I value this nostalgia more than most, being born in 1976, having bought Street Fighter 2 with a SNES import adapter in a London trip, months before it released in France. This is a game that cemented relationships with my friends, and it must have been 2 decades since I last played it. I'm in the Capcom target audience for this one.
TheTylerRob
Member
It is kinda funny how people see things nowadays. This might be the definitive version of the most classic fighting game of all time but it's not worth 40 bucks to most people.
sixteen-bit
Member
All the HD art is bad imo
All signs point to that remaining the original Super Turbo.
It's not. They changed a whole lot of shit. There is added latency. It looks worse. The input system is a lot different in general for some reason.
Super Turbo will always be the definitive version, and there hasn't been a truly great port of it unfortunately :<
We had an arcade full of ST players last night messing with it, some been playing since 91, and everybody just laughed at it. For $40 it's a ripoff of a pretty meh version of a game.
Looks like Amazon just shipped mine. They promised it would ship on the 24th to arrive on Friday, and so decided to ship it at the last possible minute. Tbh I never preordered this one to play on day one, but nice to know I won't have to wait til Monday like most Switch games they've shipped.
sixteen-bit
Member
I wonder if Crapcom will ever get the memo and release a modern home port of ST
And multiplayer even though original was single player only plus SM64 was 9 years old then, SF2 is 20+.
still controls sucked
A slightly expanded version of a port that sold for 15 bucks over a decade ago for almost 3x the price.
Wait.for.a.sale
Just got this off of the Japanese eShop. It doesn't run in English, surprisingly- just Japanese and Chinese language options are available. No problem for me, but just a warning to anyone who might import, which I'm sure is probably nobody else, lol.
The HD Remix graphics look pretty nice on the Switch screen. Very colorful and bright, although some of the character outlines are a little 'jagged'. Guess it was a little difficult to scale down all the way. I'm sure it's fine when docked. Not too keen on the CPS2 sprite option, because it's very, very pixelated and there are no filtering options available. Boo, hiss. Scanlines would have been nice.
I got a chance to try online briefly. Found no one in the player match side, but got a ranked match against a player in Japan. Considering the distance and the one bar connection, it ran pretty smoothly, so maybe there's hope for the online after all.
How do I select custom colors? I see no option to do so on the select screen.
The HD Remix graphics look pretty nice on the Switch screen. Very colorful and bright, although some of the character outlines are a little 'jagged'. Guess it was a little difficult to scale down all the way. I'm sure it's fine when docked. Not too keen on the CPS2 sprite option, because it's very, very pixelated and there are no filtering options available. Boo, hiss. Scanlines would have been nice.
I got a chance to try online briefly. Found no one in the player match side, but got a ranked match against a player in Japan. Considering the distance and the one bar connection, it ran pretty smoothly, so maybe there's hope for the online after all.
How do I select custom colors? I see no option to do so on the select screen.
kingbean
Member
Really wish I saw it didn't have English earlier. I just wasted my money. My own fault I guess.
It's just SF2 though so probably not a big deal?
Color Editor below the Gallery option. You can set custom color designs there.
That's actually the general consensus. The new art is pretty bad and looks insanely choppy despite being identical frame-wise. With pixels, your brain is able to fill in the blanks. With the HD artwork, the lack of frames is jarring.
The Horror the horror
Banned
Inside 24-hours. No |OT|?
kingbean
Member
I prefer the classic style as well.
Oh yeah. Playing it is fine but it's just a matter if fiddling around until I find the options I want. Like I want to put fierce punch and kick on R and RZ.
I'd also like to know the difference between lite and pro control options.
Lite - Special Moves and Normal Moves can be assigned to buttons.
Pro - only Normal Moves can be assigned to buttons.
Sapiens
Member
Outside of banking and university software, is there any other source code that has been repurposed more than SF2, which was likely written in 1990-1991?
The older sprites were created by professionals who put a lot of time and care into them. The new hand drawn sprites were outsourced to north korea and based on unused character designs from totally spies and whatever udon could trace from old cacpcom artwork.
The older sprites were created by professionals who put a lot of time and care into them. The new hand drawn sprites were outsourced to north korea and based on unused character designs from totally spies and whatever udon could trace from old cacpcom artwork.
kingbean
Member
Thanks. I'll be keeping it on pro mode then.
I'll look for a video of someone going through the options so I can have a reference of what it all says. Trying to look at the move list was a pain the ass. I know I shouldnt have too but I couldn't get Akuma's raging demon to come out... Still can't actually.
I'm scrub tier.
Yeah, I know that- I mean I don't see how you select the custom colors on the character select screen.
I can do a quick n' dirty translation for you. Anything you need to know specifically?
I couldn't do the raging demon either. Which is weird since all the other moves come out (surprisingly) with ease on the Switch controller. They definitely made inputs easier.
To start--
MAIN MENU
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Arcade
Buddy FIght
Versus
Network
Training
Way Of The Hado
Gallery
Color Edit
Player Data
Game Manual
Options
Options:
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Graphics/Music And Voice Mode Change
Theme/Border Change
Controller Config
Sound Volume Adjustment
Screen Settings
Language Settings
Title Settings
Flag Settings
Character names (Note that the Bison = Boxer, Balrog = Claw, and Vega = Dictator):
MAIN MENU
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Arcade
Buddy FIght
Versus
Network
Training
Way Of The Hado
Gallery
Color Edit
Player Data
Game Manual
Options
Options:
-----------
Graphics/Music And Voice Mode Change
Theme/Border Change
Controller Config
Sound Volume Adjustment
Screen Settings
Language Settings
Title Settings
Flag Settings
Character names (Note that the Bison = Boxer, Balrog = Claw, and Vega = Dictator):
Super Turbo arcade had ridiculous AI difficulty and the classic version on HDR kept it in. The remixed game on HDR has easier AI difficulty.
Manac0r
Member
Ha £34.99??
You wish - I just bought a 8bitdo SF30 - £29.99 and a FC30 Pro and will be buying USF2 tomorrow upon release.... whose laughing now Nintendo/Capcom?? Huh? huh?
P.S It's them by the way..all the way to the bank. I am such a sucker but playing Sf2 with a Snes pad on my Switch ... priceless.
You wish - I just bought a 8bitdo SF30 - £29.99 and a FC30 Pro and will be buying USF2 tomorrow upon release.... whose laughing now Nintendo/Capcom?? Huh? huh?
P.S It's them by the way..all the way to the bank. I am such a sucker but playing Sf2 with a Snes pad on my Switch ... priceless.
Secret Character
Member
Correction: The US version of Super Turbo has the crazy difficulty. The Japanese version was not the same and the difficulty selector actually meant something to arcade ops.
???
Perhaps I'm mistaken, but shouldn't you be able to delete the game and redownload it from the American/European eShop for free tomorrow, thus receiving English? I've heard many who bought a game in one region, swapped to another, and the game they bought appeared on their list of purchased ones.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
The Japanese version was still pretty hard compared to modern fighting games
Dreamwriter
Member
Not one review has said anything about added latency, nor the hands-on where they got a bunch of high level tournament players to try it out. Are you sure this isn't just a placebo effect, people expecting it to be bad so thinking it is?
Still can't figure out how to choose custom colors. Anyone?
More online impressions:
-Didn't HD Remix have lobbies and tournament mode options? This game has none of that, so it's actually kind of bare bones compared to HD Remix. You just have ranked and player matches with two man lobbies. That's it.
-Thankfully, much like with SSF4 3D Edition, you can filter out players using Lite mode controls.
-Had decent or good quality connections with some Japanese players and with a guy in the UK. Had an absolutely dreadful match with someone in Australia and someone somewhere in Asia. This is on wireless, BTW.
-Already seen some Violent Ken shenanigans. That teleport dash is too good. This guy easily got through everything I did with Chun like it was nothing. But I switched to Gouki and perfected him...because of those air fireballs.
-Am I doing something wrong with teching throws? I swear it's not working consistently in this game.
It's been too long since I played Super Turbo and HD Remix. Chun and Honda's movesets look the same. Cammy's hooligans are the easier style, though- HCF to start, which is how it was in HD Remix, IIRC.
It's also so WEIRD hearing SFV voices in this game, lol.
More online impressions:
-Didn't HD Remix have lobbies and tournament mode options? This game has none of that, so it's actually kind of bare bones compared to HD Remix. You just have ranked and player matches with two man lobbies. That's it.
-Thankfully, much like with SSF4 3D Edition, you can filter out players using Lite mode controls.
-Had decent or good quality connections with some Japanese players and with a guy in the UK. Had an absolutely dreadful match with someone in Australia and someone somewhere in Asia. This is on wireless, BTW.
-Already seen some Violent Ken shenanigans. That teleport dash is too good. This guy easily got through everything I did with Chun like it was nothing. But I switched to Gouki and perfected him...because of those air fireballs.
-Am I doing something wrong with teching throws? I swear it's not working consistently in this game.
It's been too long since I played Super Turbo and HD Remix. Chun and Honda's movesets look the same. Cammy's hooligans are the easier style, though- HCF to start, which is how it was in HD Remix, IIRC.
It's also so WEIRD hearing SFV voices in this game, lol.