SniperHunter
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Forgot to mention Forza Durango, which apparently looks "life like." Releasing an up-resed GT for PS4 would damage the GT brand. Do you guys remember that GT vs Forza thread? It led to some heated discussions.
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Newegg: Gran Turismo 6 (PS3) listed for November 28th release date
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why would it run worse compared to DriveClub and in any case, completely different games.
You could have DriveClub and GT6 within month of each other, or two... DriveClub for launch in September/October and GT6 at Xmas.... games barely sell after first 1-2 months anyway.
And as I said, engine built for PS4, can scale back to PS3... just like what QD have been talking about.
Chuck Norris
Banned
If the next GT is actually a PS3 game than Polyphony just continue to prove what hacks they are, years behind the curve
AstroNut325
Member
With Forza getting trounced until Forza 4. Yes... quite an awesome thread!
Honey Bunny
Member
Please...no..
Wax Free Vanilla
Member
thrustmaster is the official wheel partner so no more logitech wheels
i expect a premium t600 and a budget version for gt world and the ps4
flyinpiranha
Member
I am not confident in PD to make this work on the PS3. GT5 was a rollercoaster of visual fidelity. While I enjoyed the game and put a ton of hours into it, I eventually stopped playing altogether because of it.
Their "vision" is too big for the PS3. So at least this guarantees I will not be purchasing GT6. I know what this generation offers, I have seen it for almost 8 years now.
My Fanatec will need to be used for something else.
But I assume this is just a dumb placeholder. I would think Sony would need all the big guns to go head to head with MS this holiday.
Their "vision" is too big for the PS3. So at least this guarantees I will not be purchasing GT6. I know what this generation offers, I have seen it for almost 8 years now.
My Fanatec will need to be used for something else.
But I assume this is just a dumb placeholder. I would think Sony would need all the big guns to go head to head with MS this holiday.
SniperHunter
Banned
Scaling engines is a waste of time in the exclusive first pary console space, especially for 1 game. I don't know what the guys at Quantic Dream are doing but it sounds like a completely moronic idea. What are the scaling back specifically? The shaders? the physics? the level design?
And DriveClub needs to enjoy a full year worth of sales on PS4. You don't see Microsoft releasing Gears of War one month after Halo. It is an asinine idea.
Dragon1893
Member
Not even sony is that stupid. Releasing a new GT on PS3 along with the PS4... Nah, they wouldn't.
Of course not. We will have BEYOND after that... and DARK SOULS 2 later...
Red Chocobo
Banned
The Last Guardian is still to come for PS3 too, as far as I'm aware (No way they would rebuild it all for new hardware after all that dev time on PS3 version).
TacticalFox88
Banned
That....actually sounds reasonable.
Either this or cross gen is the only way this announcement doesn't suck.
Dragon1893
Member
"Hey guys, here's our brand new console! Isn't it awesome?"
"And here's a new game from our biggest franchise... on our old console!"
"And here's a new game from our biggest franchise... on our old console!"
Kazuma Kiryu
Member
last guardian isn't a ps3 game anymore, if a few people are to be trusted.
Officerrob
Banned
This would be a pretty stupid mistake
SniperHunter
Banned
We still don't know what they are scaling back. An engine is a very broad term...Whatever their PS4 game is, it will blow the living shit out of Beyond, that's for sure.
I doubt this will translate well into a racing game. We already know what happens when racers made on high end machines are scaled back to weaker hardware.(30 FPS and shittier graphics)
Betta Lines
Member
I get the impression that the only way to launch a full GT game on PS4 at or near the launch of the console would be to port the GT5 engine to PS4, re-use all the premium assets, add more premium cars and tracks, and let the PS4's grunt tidy up the jaggies/low res shadows/other graphical issues.
If this was the case, they could easily put the same game on PS3, with all the new premium assets, but maintaining most of the graphical problems of GT5.
So this is option 1: a cross-generation release of a new GT that would amount to new content for PS3 and a not-quite-next-gen-enough GT on PS4.
I doubt this is the way Polyphony want to go. Most people will expect a true 'next-gen' GT, which will have to be more than just re-using GT5's premium assets. Many of the models are good enough, but pretty much everything else needs a complete overhaul, and these things... they take time. However, they will have been generating a whole load of premium assets that could be dumped into a new PS3 GT game while we wait.
So this is option 2: true next-gen GT is coming to PS4, but not for years. In the meantime, here is GT6 for PS3, which includes a buttload of new premium assets that will eventually be found in the PS4 game.
I think option 2 is much more realistic, and I'd be totally unsurprised by GT6 coming to PS3. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Much more sense than trying to rush something out for PS4. Proper GT on PS4 anytime soon? You must be joking.
If this was the case, they could easily put the same game on PS3, with all the new premium assets, but maintaining most of the graphical problems of GT5.
So this is option 1: a cross-generation release of a new GT that would amount to new content for PS3 and a not-quite-next-gen-enough GT on PS4.
I doubt this is the way Polyphony want to go. Most people will expect a true 'next-gen' GT, which will have to be more than just re-using GT5's premium assets. Many of the models are good enough, but pretty much everything else needs a complete overhaul, and these things... they take time. However, they will have been generating a whole load of premium assets that could be dumped into a new PS3 GT game while we wait.
So this is option 2: true next-gen GT is coming to PS4, but not for years. In the meantime, here is GT6 for PS3, which includes a buttload of new premium assets that will eventually be found in the PS4 game.
I think option 2 is much more realistic, and I'd be totally unsurprised by GT6 coming to PS3. The more I think about it, the more it makes sense. Much more sense than trying to rush something out for PS4. Proper GT on PS4 anytime soon? You must be joking.
I guess it depends on if you consider GT Mobile and GT PSP to be the same game.
Of course.
I'm conflicted.
On one hand, I'm down for more Gran Turismo if they can improve on what GT5 was good at (driving model, special events, car porn etc) but it just seems like a missed opportunity to showcase what the PS4 can do in the hands of one of the most technically able devs in the business.
On one hand, I'm down for more Gran Turismo if they can improve on what GT5 was good at (driving model, special events, car porn etc) but it just seems like a missed opportunity to showcase what the PS4 can do in the hands of one of the most technically able devs in the business.
Betta Lines
Member
I don't understand. As I said above, such a showcase would need to be more than just an enhanced GT5 engine, which is all they could achieve for a launch/near launch title. Launching a GT6 on PS3 has absolutely no effect on the inevitable true next-gen GT. They can do a GT6 on PS3 while working on their masterpiece, GT7, which I conservatively estimate to release in 2017.
It would delay it. 2017 is ridiculous. They should've focused their efforts on a 2014 holiday release for GT6 on PS4 built from the ground up.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
ps3
Because some of us don't have the patience to wait another 4-5 years for a new entry on new hardware.
Remember GT3? Look how well that turned out.
I just wanted to quote one of your posts. It's a GAF thing I hadn't done yet.
AgentChris
Member
Let PD do whatever they want to do.
Amen...praise the lords of PD.
LightOfTruth
Member
I refuse to believe this. I just don't believe that Sony could do something so dumb.
Angelcurio
Member
Releasing your biggest IP game just after the release of your new console, and make it available just for the last gen console, would definitely be an incredibly dumb move. If the game is at least a cross gen title, or the title is something akin to GT5 spec II, at least it would make some kind of sense.
The definitely had enough time to look forward and see all the technical limitations they confronted with GT5 on the PS3, to decide early on that the next game should have been made for the console without current gen limitations.
The definitely had enough time to look forward and see all the technical limitations they confronted with GT5 on the PS3, to decide early on that the next game should have been made for the console without current gen limitations.
Napalm_Frank
Member
PS4 2014 release for EU confirmed 
I think this makes sense to release it for PS3. They won't let it die in a long while like what happened with Wii. They prolly announce this at the same time as LBP3 for PS3 along with a pricecut.
I totally understand why GAF enthusiasts would be salty. I would be too but luckily I don't really care about traditional racers.
I think this makes sense to release it for PS3. They won't let it die in a long while like what happened with Wii. They prolly announce this at the same time as LBP3 for PS3 along with a pricecut.
I totally understand why GAF enthusiasts would be salty. I would be too but luckily I don't really care about traditional racers
.I"m ok with this. Take your time with GT7 and give me Tourist Trophy for PS4 instead.
Tourist Trophy The Real Riding Simulator - PS2 - Intro
http://youtu.be/UGkAPSFq-Go
LMFAO
Tourist Trophy The Real Riding Simulator - PS2 - Intro
http://youtu.be/UGkAPSFq-Go
Sony: Guys, GT5 took way too long to release. This cannot happen again!
Polyphony: Ok, we'll make sure that GT6 is ready when the PS4 launches.
Sony: That'd be awesome guys!
Polyphony:
LMFAO
Napalm_Frank
Member
How so? This isn't the first time we are hearing about it. It totally could happen.
MoGamesXNA
Unconfirmed Member
Good times. E3 this year is going to be great.
As long as the load time and slow menu issue is fixed in GT5, I'll pick this up at the same time I get my PS4. I can move my PS3 permanently to my racing rig then and give my PS4 pride of place in my cabinet.
As long as the load time and slow menu issue is fixed in GT5, I'll pick this up at the same time I get my PS4. I can move my PS3 permanently to my racing rig then and give my PS4 pride of place in my cabinet.
NeoGIF
Member
We're talking about Polyphony here. I don't think any further explanation is needed.
So this is the date of the first delay. I see.
Seriously though, if they just gave me 300+ premium cars and all those tracks hidden on the GT5 website, I wouldn't care if it's for PS3. And you know, it really doesn't look like it, but it's gonna be 3 years since GT5. They could've easily* made a new game on the same engine.
*I know, it's PD, it's never easy.
Seriously though, if they just gave me 300+ premium cars and all those tracks hidden on the GT5 website, I wouldn't care if it's for PS3. And you know, it really doesn't look like it, but it's gonna be 3 years since GT5. They could've easily* made a new game on the same engine.
*I know, it's PD, it's never easy.
