EatinOlives
Member
AW PSH, THE VERGE. ANTI-NINTENDO RAG SHIT.
How is that unreasonable? Wasn't Nintendo praised heavily before for not prescribing to the "launch shitty, patch later" mentality?
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Nintendo recommends opening Wii U and perform system update before gifting to others
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AW PSH, THE VERGE. ANTI-NINTENDO RAG SHIT.
How is that unreasonable? Wasn't Nintendo praised heavily before for not prescribing to the "launch shitty, patch later" mentality?
Why should people give teh Wii U a break and not criticize it for it's faults? Sure PS3 and 360 had it's faults in the launch, but that was over 6 years ago and Nintendo should had known better and learned from their mistakes. It feels to me like Nintendo is one generation behind with everything from system specs to internet modes and options, so I guess comparing it to PS3/360 is fine in the end.
MatthewB92
Member
They also think the update is 5GB. Which is wrong. Plus hitting cancel in the system update option will have it downloading in the background so you can still play games.
Joe Shlabotnik
Banned
Hellsing321
Member
Good advice for any electronic gift that gets updates, really.
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qizah
Unconfirmed Member
Good advice. I don't get all the outrage over the update beyond the length but you can update in the back can you not?
Major updates are pretty much typical affair with most technology these days. My S3 from last week had to be updated when I got it too and took about as long as the Wii U update did. *shrug*. I'm expecting similar day 1 updates when the new Xbox and PlayStation are out too.
Major updates are pretty much typical affair with most technology these days. My S3 from last week had to be updated when I got it too and took about as long as the Wii U update did. *shrug*. I'm expecting similar day 1 updates when the new Xbox and PlayStation are out too.
I will never understand why people bring up systems from 2005/2006 to defend a system that came out in 2012 as if expectations haven't changed.
Anyway, it is pretty funny (at least to me) that Nintendo is admitting to the slow load times in this "seasonal" fashion.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
But that's for games patches, which don't have to cease development until as close as a month before the ship date (I believe). AFAIK, every Nintendo game to date has been perfectly playable on day one without a patch/update.
DeviousAngel
Member
Sums it up nicely.
yankeeforever2
Member
Damn I never had to update my PS3 or 360, like ever what is Nintendo doing.
<_< really guys?
<_< really guys?
still it's a good advice, i failed to thought of it, personally i never hated updates, its the mainstream who is easily panicked and makes a big deal on something so trivial to me, leave it through the night problem solved, i can speculate most of the update whiners are western which is not surprising, the pay4gb, unreliable net infrastructure, fast-paced way of life, among other factors
The problem is they still have to shift 3 million of already produced consoles. When will you people get it. Ahh
The problem is they still have to shift 3 million of already produced consoles. When will you people get it. Ahh
Oh wow that is very neat. Definitely going to be a good few game updates but this should cut back the time for the system at least.
BigBadShamoo
Banned
Ewww this ruins the new part of the console for me.
Fredrik
Member
I'm pretty sure it's the same thing with Xbox 360 slim, PS3 slim, PSVita, 3DS among other newer electronic devices. And what's their option really? Sending back every unit to the manufacturer to update every time there is a new system update and then send it to the stores again?
Some other informed quotes from that same article
How about "avoid shutting down your console during the update" rather than some vague wording that makes it sound like there's a mysterious way to brick your console.
The 5GB myth lives on.
Anyway, I guess it's just people here not used to updates or with some kind of agenda. The real issue isn't that you have to update your console day 1. Giving this kind of advice is actually pretty cool from Nintendo, a lot of people don't think about this.
The issue is the slow download speeds, that's what needs improvements and that's what people should be bringing up.
How about "avoid shutting down your console during the update" rather than some vague wording that makes it sound like there's a mysterious way to brick your console.
The 5GB myth lives on.
Anyway, I guess it's just people here not used to updates or with some kind of agenda. The real issue isn't that you have to update your console day 1. Giving this kind of advice is actually pretty cool from Nintendo, a lot of people don't think about this.
The issue is the slow download speeds, that's what needs improvements and that's what people should be bringing up.
It can download the update while you're playing NintendoLand or something, on launch many people including myself didn't realize this.
But after the update is downloaded the install still takes a bit of time though, and you have to sit through that, I think.
Revolutionary
Member
The problem with this is that neither the PSA nor the manual state that system updates can be downloaded in the background. Nearly everyone in the Wii U Release Day thread was sitting with our thumbs up our asses while the update crawled (hence, the reason why people think it is 5GB), because we didn't know.
Allan Holdsworth
Member
Who gifts opened stuff? That's rude.
I'm curious to where this 5GB figure came from exactly, it's all over the internet.
I get what you mean but it's for the greater good
VeryGooster
Banned
I randomly tweeted a while ago wondering if parents would do this. Didn't expect Nintendo to come right out and suggest it. Nintendo should probably tweet about the background DL thing, because even I didn't know that at the time I was updating.
I wish The Verge would expound on the "epic failure" of the Wii U launch from their perspective...
I wish The Verge would expound on the "epic failure" of the Wii U launch from their perspective...
Newton Crosby
Banned
I'd take an opened Wii U, damn my lack of money!
Sure it's reminding us of a crappy aspect of the system's launch, but I don't see the big problem with this suggestion, other than the original problem.
Maybe I just don't get what excites some people so much about the whole box opening process. If a loved one did all that for me I'd think they were really awesome and thoughtful.
Maybe I just don't get what excites some people so much about the whole box opening process. If a loved one did all that for me I'd think they were really awesome and thoughtful.
They had a pretty detailed .pdf for the japanese launch explaining how to download the update in the background. I wish they did the same here.
That Verge article is just bad.
PokéKong;45659326 said:
Especially since you would probably still get to open the gift box. I think now is the right time to use /thread.
Uncle0wnage
Member
With all the awful /thread comments and terrible trolling attempts, it's getting hard to distinguish GAF from GameFAQs and IGN. Good show.
polyh3dron
Banned
Considering the ridiculous amount of time it takes for the update to download you can't blame people for thinking it's 5GB.
Took me about an hour and my connection is quite fast.
It shouldn't be an excuse to misinform people. When you are writing an article, you should always double check your facts and it wasn't very hard to do in this case.
They could've easily noted that the download speeds were slow and that's actually a better argument for a "launch failure" than a 5GB update.
metalslimer
Member
Well that's not hyperbolic at all....good show Verge.
Nintendo magic. Apparently Nintendo has the ability to go in to warehouses take out all the Wii Us that have already been packaged a long time ago bring them back to a manufacturing plant in China and flash them.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
How do you suppose they do that with units warehoused months in advance?
I think it has to do with how GB storage is advertized across all harddrives, and SD cards.
So the advertized size is 32GB but a computer's OS would list it as 28GB or something. (I think 32GB SD cards are only around 28GB) Then subtract the 1GB or so for the update.
People were like "I only have 27GB left! OMG the update was 5GB!"
They fixed the update size in the article at least which is commendable. Hopefully, they'll do a bit more research next time.
grap3fruitman
Banned
Protip: No one asked for a #WiiU for Christmas.
VeryGooster
Banned
No not when it's downloading, you can just resume right where you left off.
You only risk bricking it if it's shut off when it's installing, and I think that's the same across all console installs.
the thoroughbred
Member
Coming from the company who thought downloadable patches were an excuse for lazy developers to get shit out on time and unfinished. They should have people testing the shit out of stuff before it gets released. And the only update should be for additional content.
What happened to that "Seal of Quality".
What happened to that "Seal of Quality".
