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Nintendo Switch doesn't support Optical Audio out....
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Deadpool_X
Banned
Yeah, but does it at least support RF Adapter?
Good TVs will pass through 5.1 over optical *if* you are sending a DD 5.1 bitstream over HDMI. If you are sending 5.1 PCM the TV isn't going to re-encode that to DD 5.1 to send it out over optical. It'll just send a 2 ch PCM.
That is poor equipment. Not a problem with HDMI.
The same digital signal (assuming you're talking about DD 5.1) is sent over the wire. It doesn't matter if it is HDMI or optical or coax.
Optical can't handle 5.1 PCM.
No, you don't. Optical cannot carry a 7.1 channel Dolby signal. Full stop.
The Omega Man
Member
What's a good hdmi receiver that is also future-proof ( HDR compliant) and also cheap?
I don't want to update to a new receiver only to be non compatible with new crap in a year or two.
I don't want to update to a new receiver only to be non compatible with new crap in a year or two.
Plenty of "good" TVs will only send a 2.0 signal from the TV (be it optical or HDMI ARC) unless it is coming from an OTA signal. Even a DD 5.1 signal going to my plasma will only send 2.0 via ARC, which is why my cable box sends HDMI directly to the TV and sends the audio to the AVR via optical.
However, in this case (with the Switch) it is sending LPCM which as you said would only be passed as 2.0 anyways, even on a "good" TV.
Which would only send a 2.0 signal to the receiver in this case (see above).
The Xtortionist
Member
Since like 2008 my Mixamp setup has relied on optical, but yeah it's pretty ancient. Has there been a Mixamp equivalent (game+voice mixing) that uses HDMI for higher quality audio? I wouldn't mind upgrading, but I'm just not sure if anything better has come along.
knightfolk
Member
Not so cheap right now, but I picked it on on sale just before xmas for 350. I am sure it will go on sale again. I like this site to track changes on stuff I am looking at buying.
http://camelcamelcamel.com/Pioneer-VSX-1131-7-2-Channel-Receiver-Bluetooth/product/B01EN005W0
man, i wonder what kind of ancient receivers people have that don't support HDMI audio. my receiver is pretty old and the thing can take PCM audio over HDMI.
i don't think Nintendo is the one to blame for this.
the ethernet port is something much more worth of people's time when it comes to complaining since they sell adapters for that instead of including it in the dock.
i don't think Nintendo is the one to blame for this.
the ethernet port is something much more worth of people's time when it comes to complaining since they sell adapters for that instead of including it in the dock.
Yeah the ethernet port not being on the dock is more weirder.
IchigoSharingan
Member
This. Lack of Ethernet in nintendo consoles is far weirder, since there isn't really anything that's replaced it. It's annoying for me since I live in an apartment building with plenty of WiFi congestion, but I guess that might not necessarily be the norm.
My high density apartment meant that I HAD to get a Wii U adapter to play Splatoon - not a single 2.4GHz channel was free enough to let me stay in a match for more than a few seconds. Fortunately I already have the adapter. Unfortunately the Switch needs the adapter which is really annoying.
Upside is they're supporting ac, so at least there's a chance I can have stable wifi on it.
Unknown Soldier
Member
ac works on the largely unused 5 GHz band so if your router supports ac you'll definitely have a much better existence. 2.4 GHz band is basically unusable in most places these days.
CouchMaster
Member
People with good quality DAC/AMP setup for their headphones.
An1malhouse365
Neo Member
My Astro A50 still uses optical. I didn't realize it was "outdated" tech.
LinkSlayer64
Member
I didn't realize this was outdated/didn't support new things, as every TV I've looked at had it, including smart TVs. Meanwhile, my new Sharp Roku TV with optical only has composite input as opposed to joint component/composite input,
(I really wanted the Roku interface and am really enjoying it, so I'll deal with it, I'll just need to get a framemeister or something someday)
(I really wanted the Roku interface and am really enjoying it, so I'll deal with it, I'll just need to get a framemeister or something someday)
well...it said dolby 7.1 dss blah blah blah. Its the old Turtle Beach Ear Force DSS.
Backfoggen
Banned
At this point you'll have to wait for HDMI 2.1.
Trojita
Rapid Response Threadmaker
The only problem with this is that you could have a cheap to mid range receiver this year vs an older non-hdmi receiver of high quality and the latter would still be better.
Also the people that use headset usually need them. Not sure if those work with TV optical out instead or not.
paperspace
Member
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Yes indeed, only apple understand this, lol!
Toslink is not really an issue for majority of ppl, but the format really is.
I had a lot of trouble with the WiiU not supporting Dolby or DTS. Ofcourse the uncompressed format PCM was better, cheaper and supported but not a lot of ppl had a receiver for that, including myself.
Now I really wonder if they got on the same path of PCM...
I had a lot of trouble with the WiiU not supporting Dolby or DTS. Ofcourse the uncompressed format PCM was better, cheaper and supported but not a lot of ppl had a receiver for that, including myself.
Now I really wonder if they got on the same path of PCM...
There's no need for HDMI for stereo sound; optical already supports lossless stereo audio.
drotahorror
Member
Say what?
Anyways, a bit different topic but I hope they support full range RGB. I was disappointed when I bought a Wii U and it didn't support it. At the time all I had as a monitor that did not support limited range.
LincolnSixEcho
Member
Optical out is a dinosaur now. HDMI has been the standard for many years now. You can expect many electronic devices to drop optical Toslink going forward. Look into upgrading your receiver.
Wolfgang Jr
Banned
Wow, I had no idea; that's balls. Guess you can throw on a DD/DTS Matrix but that's really a poor substitute.
Wolfgang Jr
Banned
Does your TV have audio out?
kristianity77
Member
I still use optical for the PS4 Pro as the upgrade path from what I have now seems to have taken a hike in terms of price considering I would have to now buy a receiver that caters for both 4K and HDR in order to get the most out of it.
I'd connect everything to the telly and then use ARC to my old system but I've never been able to get that to function correctly and lag free.
I'd connect everything to the telly and then use ARC to my old system but I've never been able to get that to function correctly and lag free.
FYI to those posting and wondering my self. I have a Logitech z906 speakers I use on my pc and sound amazing. The replacement speakers that Logitech released for these sound significantly worse even though they have other connections. The z906 has PC speaker input, RCA audio input, 2 digital inputs, and 1 coaxial input.
I am running a sound blaster Z sound card and again no HDMI inputs. This is the only sound system we have.
I am running a sound blaster Z sound card and again no HDMI inputs. This is the only sound system we have.
I paid $300+ for this system (it still sells for that much) and it works great so I am not looking to replace it any time soon.
Unknown Soldier
Member
Logitech speakers are computer multimedia speakers. They are meant for computers. I had both a set of Z-560's and Z-680's back in the day. They were and are great for their intended use, which is with computers. However if something comes along which doesn't have the expected outputs from a computer, it's not something unexpected. That's just what happens.
Is there some kind of adapter I can use where I won't experience audio lag? If not what would GAF's recommendation for quality receivers be that won't cost more than $300?
The Denon AVR-S510BT is an awesome budget receiver. Or you can bump up to the AVR-S720W for some better future proofing. I like Yamahas too!
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Can confirm betamax tapes are NOT suported.
And judging by the size of the console
Laser discs are a no GO.So NO space quest or dragons lair..
Wtf nintendo.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KYURMEW/?tag=neogaf0e-20
I just bought this. I will test and see how it works with the Wii U.
I just bought this. I will test and see how it works with the Wii U.
LiberaTeExInferis
Member
Do products like these affect the quality of the picture?
Because while trying to connect my WiiU though a receiver in order to have 5.1 surround sound I have noticed the picture getting jaggier, the colours getting duller etc.
drotahorror
Member
I'm interested about the results. I have everything ran via hdmi but this seems cool.
I don't think that should happen.
Woah, I forgot all about that. Would be dope.
boneyjangles
Member
Your TV shout have optical out.
If not, you can by breakout boxes on amazon that split audio off from hdmi and feed it to optical.
If not, you can by breakout boxes on amazon that split audio off from hdmi and feed it to optical.
gingerbeardman
Member
It's annoying.
But you can buy a splitter for like $15
But you can buy a splitter for like $15
I would say that the setting you had on the HDMI port for your receiver were different than the ones you had on the port for the Wii U.
CouchMaster
Member
CrispyBoar
Banned
Gotta get with the times, bro. Other platforms like PS4 slim doesn't have it, either.
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