Nightengale
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When the Frozen world is announced, it will sell at least a million copies on Xbox just through the raw power of the Frozen IP popularity.
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Nomura: KH 0.2 developed alongside KH3 using same tech, will amount to 1 world in KH
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When the Frozen world is announced, it will sell at least a million copies on Xbox just through the raw power of the Frozen IP popularity.
I don't see myself buying a ps4 for probably multiple years. Generally I prefer stuff that comes out on the Xbox.
I can't really fathom how square just isn't supporting the console despite stating the third mainline game is coming to it. I really like kingdom hearts! I will buy the third game! If square were to drop the PS3 collections and 2.8 on the console, I'd buy them all.
I'm real bummed out that they're putting the game on the Xbox with no desire to cultivate any sort of fan base whatsoever. If they dropped the remakes over the next year they'd at least have *some* sort of fan base on the console prior to the newest iteration.
But what do I know!
I can't really fathom how square just isn't supporting the console despite stating the third mainline game is coming to it. I really like kingdom hearts! I will buy the third game! If square were to drop the PS3 collections and 2.8 on the console, I'd buy them all.
I'm real bummed out that they're putting the game on the Xbox with no desire to cultivate any sort of fan base whatsoever. If they dropped the remakes over the next year they'd at least have *some* sort of fan base on the console prior to the newest iteration.
But what do I know!
Kenzodielocke
Banned
Like always, if you want to play the majority of japanese games this console generation, you have to buy a PS4. Most games might come out on PC, but I don't see Xbox One getting many japanese games, even MGS did not that well in the UK on the XB1, despite on having the second best market share after the US.
OmegaDL50
Member
Yeah, they're much much worse when it comes to delays.
The fact that the game has been in development for 9 years? Excuse me for having a bit of doubt over the game finally being finished in a timely manner.
DarkLordMalik
Member
I am trying to figure out when was the last time they announced a release date and then delayed it? I think they did it with FFXIV: ARR but that might be the complication of relaunching an MMO.
KH 3 and FFXV were both seen with now in development and the only recent confirmation for FFXV coming in 2016 was at TGS.
I expect the same "Now In Development" stuff in KH3 and FF VII: Remake trailers until they are absolutely sure of a release year/date.
Sony is far worse in term of delays this generation than Square Enix. Early reveals and long development times =/= Delays.
Speaking of Atlus, they have delayed Person 4: Dancing All Night. Persona 5 was also delayed 4 times since its reveal. Winter 2014 -> 2015 -> Winter 2015 -> Summer 2016.
NippleViking
Banned
I expect that the number of people who will buy KH3 who have never played a KH game before will be in the millions across all platforms. It was a refutation to Sangetsu-II's first point.
I mean, alright? The game was announced 9 years ago. It's still not out. Is it really that strange to be wary of the game coming next year?
DarkLordMalik
Member
You aren't going to trust the director. You aren't going to agree with the facts. Instead you are just going to repeat the same old cliche phase (announced 9 years ago) when it was mentioned numerous time it was rebooted in 2012 and Versus XIII was just 25%-30% complete before reboot. It is now 70% complete as of PAX. They also released a demo of the game this year.
The only thing it shows that you won't agree to anything that somehow proves that FFXV has a high chance of getting released before KH 3.
If anyone needed more evidence of the xbox one announcement being a product of pre-launch current gen expectations for the xbox one to outsell the ps4... Damn.
I mean... We all assume Nomura is not THAT stupid and knew that the question referred to why it's but releasing on Xbox right?
OmegaDL50
Member
You got some reductionist memory there. FFXV wasn't even in active development until 2012.
Unless you are conveniently ignoring a significant amount of Square-Enix's staff was shifted around with the disaster of FFXIV having to reboot it into A Realm Reborn.
In fact a majority of the staff that were working on the game that was known as Versus XIII were basically moved on to other projects to pick up slack elsewhere.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1057197
I wouldn't be surprised SE was so strained at one point they had to even outsource to tri-Ace for work on FFXIII-2 and Lightning Returns.
A game not actively being worked on is not the same thing as a delay. The game has yet to be given an actual release date prior to 2016 and moved to consider it actually "delayed", unlike what happened with Persona 5 in which Atlus was constantly saying "Sometime in 2015" until the delay DID happen.
Blood Diamonds
Banned
does this mean the game won't be broken as fuck
Is this what you're so upset about? FFXV could very easily release before KH3. I just didn't think it was an absolute fact that the game was going to get released first. I think both could come out in 2017, and either one could release before the other.
KH3 still has the advantage of being developed on a competent engine.
Are you really arguing with me about the definition of a delay? lol. Okay, a game was announced nine years, still not out, but it's never technically been delayed. Great. I now have the upmost confidence in this game being finished next year.
But by an incompetent director.
DarkLordMalik
Member
The one who was in denial was none other than you.
Followed by
Basically sums up what you thought of it. Mocking those who were saying the game will be out in 2016.
I really don't mean to troll or anything I swear! But you: 1) have a anime avatar and 2) "really like" KH, and 3) like xbox and don't plan to get a PS4 for quite a long time.
For me that really does not compute. Could you perhaps elucidate as to why you got an xbox? It's not as if either MS or Sony has mislead anyone that the Japanese focus would be hugely on the PS4? (On MS side: very little investment in Japanese IP, no presence at TGS, history of not caring about Japanese games except for the blip for the 360; on the PS4 side: history of supporting obscure Japanese games, Japanese company, consistent presence at TGS.)
Or do you generally like MS IP and not much Japanese stuff and KH is kind of the outlier for you? That would make sense.
Just trying to wrap my head around it.
What am in denial about it? I've already admitted it could come out before KH3. Isn't that what we were arguing about?
But you're right, my "that's adorable" comment was silly. I take it back.
KH 2.9 ultra mega final mix confirmed then
OmegaDL50
Member
So you want to play at semantics and simply disregard the rest of my post. Okay then.
WrenchNinja
Member
If you expected JRPGs to show up on the Xbox One after what happened last gen and with what's happening this gen with sales, you only have yourself to blame.
And I expect that most who are buying KH3 are existing fans of the series and know that the KH main games have always been Playstation. So they will probably drift toward the PS4 version. SE knows this, hence why they mostly talk about PS4 development and hardly mention the port.
Mark my words, the PS4 version will clobber the XB1 version in sales. Especially in Japan where I don't think even 10K XB1s have been sold yet.
I loled.
55k have been sold.
akilshohen
Member
Which was a horrible litmus test.
I could care less about FF-0 when it came out.
KH, YES!
I pre-ordered when Amazon had it for $40
Vital Tundra
Member
Still not worth the 60 dollar admission. Can be buy it seperatly, the .2?
LouisaFerre
Member
Kinda wondering what they mean by one world. I mean, all the entries I've played recently had me visit a world multiple times, so I'm struggling to understand quite how long that will be in actual gameplay hours, if it'll be the same length as one episode in a world for KH2, or if it'll equate to multiple.
I'm hoping for the latter, because I really want to spend at least a couple hours on this.
EDIT: also really interested in what it means for Back Cover to be using UE4. I'm pretty sure they said it wasn't playable. Also, the line about KH3D practically being a complete remake, I really hope that's not something he's saying lightly, because from what I've seen, that game could definitely benefit from some fine tuning.
I'm hoping for the latter, because I really want to spend at least a couple hours on this.
EDIT: also really interested in what it means for Back Cover to be using UE4. I'm pretty sure they said it wasn't playable. Also, the line about KH3D practically being a complete remake, I really hope that's not something he's saying lightly, because from what I've seen, that game could definitely benefit from some fine tuning.
It would be cool if it's latter, but I fear it will be the former.
SE tried earnestly to support MS so many times and it didn't really pay off.At least not as much one would've hoped.
This title is highly unlikely to sell much at all in general and particularly on XBO.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Kingdom Hearts isn't most JRPGs this is the most unjrpg a JRPG can reasonably get. I don't think many are begging for Nier or Tales of to get an Xbox release, considering how that worked out for the 360, but when we're already getting KH3 it's not too much to ask to get the remakes leading up to the series.
Now read the quote in the OP and guess why people are wondering why they completely glossed over the XBO.
Sure risk reward ratio is probably the answer but that makes the complete neglect of the platform they are intending to port 2 of their biggest releases on any better.
OmegaDL50
Member
Yeah it's a shame.
I don't own an Xbox One and am a PS4 owner but I think it's fair for those who an Xbox One get equal treatment in this regard in terms of releases and content (not including console exclusives, of course)
Like the thing with Naoki Yoshida wanting to get FFXIV on the Xbox One to have that much of a larger userbase and contractions being made there.
Maybe they'll be a special edition of KHIII for the Xbox One that includes all of 0.2 and 2.8's content in a bundle so they don't get to miss out.
This is just one of those cases in that the lack of Japanese support the Xbox One is hurting in this regard. It's unfortunate but little can be done.
how short?
Too short.
No, if you want to play 2, get 2.5.
BoilersFan23
Member
Possibly because KH 3D used the touch screen for the and PS4 has the touchpad to make the game work on the console easier? That was one big reason I thought of.
Kenzodielocke
Banned
MGS is less japanese than Kingdom Hearts to me and it still managed to sell best on Playstation consoles.
Good to hear it's at least the length of a world...wonder if it's based on the typical 2nd visit or not...
Feel sorry for Xbox people, but at the same time, SE have favoured playstation for a long time. I don't see why people would pick up an Xbox if they were SE fans. History shows they're more at home on PS.
Feel sorry for Xbox people, but at the same time, SE have favoured playstation for a long time. I don't see why people would pick up an Xbox if they were SE fans. History shows they're more at home on PS.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
And how is that surprising MGS isn't a JRPG but as someone who got into MGS only just now that V might have been part of the reason. You can play 2, 3 and PW on the 360 can't you but 4 is PS3 exclusive. A PC to XBO comparison would be more interesting tbh.