BrokenFiction
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Do people in other countries have to wade through this much anti-science bullshit on a daily basis or are their education systems (perhaps created through *gasp* socialism) set up to give people a decent filter?
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Noted Quack The Food Babe, her critics and the war on Chemicals in our foodstuffs
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entremet
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In my experience the rhetoric, logic, and tactics of the anti-GMO movement mirror those of the anti-vaxxer movement so closely it's almost like they stole the playbook.
Sadly the gap between what the public believes versus scientists on GMOs is HUGE, there is much work to be done educating people...
You also have one of the biggest supermarkets in the country--Whole Foods--promoting the anti GMO views too.
Food Babe responds to allegations that she is full of shit
She spends about half the article attacking the credibility of Science Babe, including posting an anonymous e-mail disparaging her work at Amvac and vaguely intimating that some evil bio-corporation is paying Gawker to do hit pieces on her.
She does a relatively poor job of explaining away the actual allegations leveled against her, particularly the fact that she pushes some kind of sugar-heavy detox beverage (Suja?) at the same time as she claim that sugar is a toxin. There's also a healthy dose of "People criticizing me are sexist!"
I cannot believe this is a part of her defense:
She spends about half the article attacking the credibility of Science Babe, including posting an anonymous e-mail disparaging her work at Amvac and vaguely intimating that some evil bio-corporation is paying Gawker to do hit pieces on her.
She does a relatively poor job of explaining away the actual allegations leveled against her, particularly the fact that she pushes some kind of sugar-heavy detox beverage (Suja?) at the same time as she claim that sugar is a toxin. There's also a healthy dose of "People criticizing me are sexist!"
I cannot believe this is a part of her defense:
Beer Monkey
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The organic food business is a $35 billion a year industry in the US and growing constantly. They of course love all the misconceptions about organic food being healthier, sustainable, and environmental.
Sho_Nuff82
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I only heard about this food babe last week when people started posting the Science Babe retort saying she was full of shit.
Reading her anti-flu shot article is something else. It reads like a HS student trying to sound smart about things. Her citations consist of "some studies I've read". Even a beginner blogger would throw some links in there. Especially when you make claims like this:
Just from these two paragraphs I can discern that she has no idea how antibodies work or are produced, and no idea how vaccines work or are produced.
Reading her anti-flu shot article is something else. It reads like a HS student trying to sound smart about things. Her citations consist of "some studies I've read". Even a beginner blogger would throw some links in there. Especially when you make claims like this:
Just from these two paragraphs I can discern that she has no idea how antibodies work or are produced, and no idea how vaccines work or are produced.
Purple Cheeto
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Living in California the anti GMO sentiment I see on the daily is so ridiculous. Its like none of these people have read anything on the subject. Even supposedly intelligent people I know buy into the whole Organic is better bullshit.
Brian Griffin
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When it looks like a duck...
She is a hack job making a sweet living off of people.
I enjoy the article how a non-organic apple is worse than a hot fudge sundae.
A hot fudge sundae a day keeps the doctor away.
This just scares me in that in this day of age we have a world of information at our finger tips but some people refuse to do any of their own research and take whatever information is spoon fed to them without question.
I enjoy the article how a non-organic apple is worse than a hot fudge sundae.
A hot fudge sundae a day keeps the doctor away.
This just scares me in that in this day of age we have a world of information at our finger tips but some people refuse to do any of their own research and take whatever information is spoon fed to them without question.
Ivan Amiibo
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if she weren't totally hot and animated, it wouldn't have gotten this far. The charisma is too stronk
I went to the Science Babe's website, and got ads for buttplugs. FOR SCIENCE!
CrimzonSamurai
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Of course, the dirtiest secret about the organic food industry is that Monsanto and Syngenta (the two most so-called "evil" GMO producers) make an absolute killing off of the organic market. They have subsidiary seed distributors and make tons of the support products like organic pesticides and fertilizers. The entire movement is a parody of itself.
Gawker had a nice go at this woman.
http://gawker.com/the-food-babe-blogger-is-full-of-shit-1694902226
From the column: "Hari's superhero origin story is that she came down with appendicitis and didn't accept the explanation that appendicitis just happens sometimes. So she quit her job as a consultant, attended Google University and transformed herself into an uncredentialed expert in everything she admittedly can't pronounce."
Sorry if this has been posted already.
http://gawker.com/the-food-babe-blogger-is-full-of-shit-1694902226
From the column: "Hari's superhero origin story is that she came down with appendicitis and didn't accept the explanation that appendicitis just happens sometimes. So she quit her job as a consultant, attended Google University and transformed herself into an uncredentialed expert in everything she admittedly can't pronounce."
Sorry if this has been posted already.
Yeah, I saw the new articles coming out about this woman, which makes me happy. I hope even more mainstream media starts to talk about the issues with this particular mindset.
I know one person who in one conversation with him, talked about how crazy it was that people would disagree with the majority of scientists on global warming, and in another, said that it didn't matter how many scientists had no problems with gmos, he was positive that in 10 more years we'd start linking health issues to them.
It really humbles me seeing stuff like that, our brains are some majestically fucked up machines.
I know one person who in one conversation with him, talked about how crazy it was that people would disagree with the majority of scientists on global warming, and in another, said that it didn't matter how many scientists had no problems with gmos, he was positive that in 10 more years we'd start linking health issues to them.
It really humbles me seeing stuff like that, our brains are some majestically fucked up machines.
Maxwell House
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The food babe is one of the dumbest bloggers out there. She is a scientifically illiterate retard making money by scaremongering people.
I'd bet the Food Babe is probably also anti-vaccine and that the anti-vaccine celebrities like Gwyneth Paltrow and Jenny McCarthy probably love the shit out of the Food Babe.
I'd bet the Food Babe is probably also anti-vaccine and that the anti-vaccine celebrities like Gwyneth Paltrow and Jenny McCarthy probably love the shit out of the Food Babe.
Well put.
These cannot possibly be real quotes...
http://www.freezepage.com/1415667665TBMRBWICKU
I even left off ones that were talked about in the thread already
That is the great thing about it......those are real quotes.
Oh shit.
She lists the ingredients in a flu shot? Really?
o no it has sucrose in it! run away~~~
The amount of those chemicals in the vaccine are in the miniscule range that our body can take care of them naturally.
This woman is just a blithering idiot who tries to scare people with chemicals.
entremet
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The organic food business is a $35 billion a year industry in the US and growing constantly. They of course love all the misconceptions about organic food being healthier, sustainable, and environmental.
Also didn't the EU ban GMO foods?
Isn't that stuff based on your search history?
CrimzonSamurai
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I'm so pissed off right now, you guys.
TheLostBigBoss
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Food Babe reminds me of some people I know who will go to war on things just because it makes them not feel right.
like, I had a friend who was against the GMO mosquitos because of the word "GMO", even though all they did to the mosquitos was sterilize them, which means that less pesticides would be used to control them.
Even with that, just because it was a "GMO" mechanic to alter them, it was bad and shouldnt happen due to it making them feel not good.
This shit is just people making their irrational emotions into half baked science, nothing more, nothing less.
like, I had a friend who was against the GMO mosquitos because of the word "GMO", even though all they did to the mosquitos was sterilize them, which means that less pesticides would be used to control them.
Even with that, just because it was a "GMO" mechanic to alter them, it was bad and shouldnt happen due to it making them feel not good.
This shit is just people making their irrational emotions into half baked science, nothing more, nothing less.
entremet
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No. Not every ad is uses Google AdSense.
Trojita
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Wow. This is the dumbest fucking thing I've read in awhile. How stupid could this woman be.
lol @ her food stuff on the plane.
True story, I was coming back on a flight from a conference and was seated next to what I believe was a modeling exec or something. She had a huge lunchbox with her packed with food. Halfway through the flight she opens it up and starts eating. Full of cabbage and boiled eggs. Shit fucking stank and it was awful sitting next to her.
Beer Monkey
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No, but they authorized member states to be able to do so if they choose.
http://ec.europa.eu/food/plant/gmo/legislation/future_rules_en.htm
She sells a bunch of products (that actually include the same chemicals that she protests at Starbucks, McDonalds, et al), sells books that make her millions, sells 'insider' access where she tells you a bunch of bonus woo, gets paid for speaking engagements, and so on.
She's making crazy mad bank.
I agree completely. When people see others being stupid, hypocritical, or illogical, it seems that our brains naturally jump to a thought similar to "wow, that guy sure is stupid and illogical. I'm glad I'm not like that!" In reality, the conclusion should be that our brains aren't very well wired for logic in the first place, and that everyone is susceptible. You aren't (and I am not) the special genius who transcends emotional argument or dearly held beliefs; it's part of human nature.
Overriding that sensibility isn't something one does once, like reaching the final level of wisdom or enlightenment. Very well educated, very intelligent people fall prey to this phenomenon all the time. It's something that requires constant vigilance, requiring you to constantly second guess your motives -- whenever I reach a conclusion that happens to flatter me or suit my predetermined beliefs, I try to ask myself if I reached that conclusion because it's actually true, or if I reached it because I find that conclusion pleasing.
PhoncipleBone
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I love that she deletes so many of her posts and tweets so people can't reference them or search for them on her site. It is hilarious.
Trojita
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She believes that everyone should be flying in a plane with 100% oxygen. You wouldn't really have to worry about food on a plane if the plane has already ignited into a flying fireball.
I believe a significant portion of pseudoscience derives from these sorts of gut-level feelings that we then go to great intellectual lengths to justify.
I believe a lot of people who object to GMOs are driven, on a gut level, by a distrust for huge corporations. Almost all of the boogey-man stories about Monsanto or pseudo-science about GMOs generally is built on top of that gut feeling; they don't like man made food to begin with, and they certainly don't like companies controlling it.
Conversely, I believe a lot of more conservative-leaning conspiracies rely on a gut-level distrust of the government. Global warming is an easy example here: if you manage to strip a global warming denier of all their fallacious arguments, they often resort to something like "well, I just don't trust the government to handle problems like this," or "I feel the government should stay out of private affairs." It's a core belief that they build an elaborate conspiracy on top of to justify. As a species, we feel first and think later.
Check out pulmonary oxygen toxicity
Beer Monkey
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One tactic that really is good at giving people the feels is the appeal to mommyhood/parenthood. The "DO YOU WANT TO PUT TOXINS IN YOUR CHILDREN" guilt trip that both the anti-vaxxer and anti-GMO movement have leveraged so well. Mommy shaming is the future for those who want to influence opinion and behavior.
BrokenFiction
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It has ACID in it! Clearly it must be bad for us!
Absolutely, I like to think I am self critical often, but I also wonder if I'd even know if I was being illogical or unreasonable. Rather than be... Let's say holier than though when I see people make these mistakes, it just reminds me that I need to keep on my shit.
Dear lord... she got Ether'd.
It's one thing to just pick arguments, but another to just completely and utterly destroy every angle of "Food Babe's" lack of intelligence.
CrimzonSamurai
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These anti-science beliefs aren't just misinforming the public though. They're legitimately dangerous. A ballot initiative in Josephine County, Oregon going off similar pseudoscience almost made it impossible for them to sterilize their hospitals.
Omegasquash
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Watching this burn is putting a smile on my face. I've seen more than a few food babe links on my FB feed, and at this point I'm just warming my hands.
Rarely do I say this but...good on Gawker.
Rarely do I say this but...good on Gawker.
You know what else has acid?
FUCKING LEMONS.
And ORANGES.
You're basically KILLING YOURSELF when eating those.
Beer Monkey
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Millions of kids are dying and going blind because of the anti-GMO movement blocking Golden Rice.
If you like to troll people tell them that someday the anti-GMO movement will save as many lives as the anti-vaccination movement. It usually takes them a minute...
This was the first thing I saw by her that pissed me off, and it isn't even paranoid pseudoscience:
Food Babe's Quick & Easy Home Baked Pizza
What do you get when you put four spoonfuls of tomato sauce and a bunch of broccoli on top of a tortilla? I don't know what, but it sure as fuck isn't a pizza!
Food Babe's Quick & Easy Home Baked Pizza
What do you get when you put four spoonfuls of tomato sauce and a bunch of broccoli on top of a tortilla? I don't know what, but it sure as fuck isn't a pizza!
Ollie Pooch
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Typical pseudo-science "they want to poison us!" bullshit. I despise people like this woman, profiteering off fear and half truths. Her microwave post claiming water molecules are damaged by them in the same way as if you say "Satan" to them proves she's a complete idiot.
Give some idiot a blog and people will believe them if they're good looking and seem nice. Some girl here in Aus just got busted for pushing a natural eating regime that "cured" her cancer (that she never had). She had book deals, AppStore features, the lot and she was happy to perpetuate the lies. Fuck people like this.
Give some idiot a blog and people will believe them if they're good looking and seem nice. Some girl here in Aus just got busted for pushing a natural eating regime that "cured" her cancer (that she never had). She had book deals, AppStore features, the lot and she was happy to perpetuate the lies. Fuck people like this.
Trojita
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Not just that, you already have acid on you!
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