SwiftDeath
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That seems unlikely as GTA isn't FTP
Why pay $6-$8 for a GTA game when you can play 100's of games for free?
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NPD: Mobile is now the most popular platform for gaming among children aged 2-17
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That seems unlikely as GTA isn't FTP
Why pay $6-$8 for a GTA game when you can play 100's of games for free?
7DollarHagane
Banned
I'm surprised the shift isn't larger.
I think this is generally an expansion of the market and reports of the demise of traditional games are overrated and wishful thinking among a vocal few.
I think this is generally an expansion of the market and reports of the demise of traditional games are overrated and wishful thinking among a vocal few.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
How so?
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
It's a problem for all manufacturers as these kids grow older.
Bolivar687
Banned
I think the price of the two, actively-supported, dedicated platforms plays a role in why casuals, here young children, are looking for gaming experiences elsewhere. I suspect it also plays a role in the type of content publishers deliver on those platforms.
The article says that the biggest shift in this 2-year survey took place at ages 2-5. I honestly can't imagine any parent spending $500 after tax so their 3-year old can play Far Cry 4.
CosmicQueso
Member
The space has been in decline for some time. Publisher and release count on Console and Handheld platforms is down significantly from just a few short years ago. Kids and Family games are nowhere to be found now compared to, say, 2009. Dedicated handhelds generate a small fraction of the business they did a half decade ago.
Like it or not, Consoles will become more and more niche, catering to a smaller, much more enthusiastic and dedicated, market.
So no, not dying. You'lll still get at least one more generation of Consoles, and Console games will keep getting made for at least a decade or more.
But it's a niche. Which is fine. Plenty of healthy companies and happy consumers can exist within a niche.
Ahhh, got it. Thanks.
Because everything seems to be moving to free to play and that system is not for me. I'm going to hold on to every old console i own.
2014 called, it'd like it's talking points back.
And people were saying Pachter was wrong the other day....
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Free to play is not always bad but its your decision.
You keep saying this but no one has actually said console gaming is dead. Only that it's declining and contracted and that mobile is larger.
Plenty of niches do well in their own right. All that's being said is that 15 years ago you had console as the biggest revenue generator in gaming but now its not. Its mobile
An expanded marketplace brings with it more diversity, not less.
Your traditional games aren't going anywhere.
dantevsninjas
Member
Yet another reason why kids are the worst, and ruin everything good.
I keep trying to give new mobile games a chance, and so far Marvel Puzzle Quest is the only one that's managed to stick. Everything else gets a day or two where I'm really into it and then nothing.
I keep trying to give new mobile games a chance, and so far Marvel Puzzle Quest is the only one that's managed to stick. Everything else gets a day or two where I'm really into it and then nothing.
JordanN
Banned
sörine;179738729 said:
I've lost count of how many new accolades there were in 2015.
Before it was PS4 sold best/fastest in Britain. Then the Middle East. Now it's Asia.
It is if you play a fun game that's not very popular. My example would be Dragon Coins , its a fun game but since it didn't generate enough revenue for Sega so they shut it down. It didn't have any offline mode since all its mechanics are always online.
I kind of feel bad for todays generation because even the games they grow up with now won't have a retro phase because you will most likely never play the game ever again if they shut down the servers due to declining popularity.
Blak_Status
Member
Phff, 33yo still haven't found a mobile game that I put more time in than this back in the day...
I'm 34 and mobile games don't hold my interest either. I've tried forcing myself to get into it. Just can't.
Blak_Status
Member
Agreed. Me and my wife talk about that all the time. Their cartoons and shows are terrible. Do they even have "Saturday morning cartoons"? That was an event in itself when I was younger. Born in 1981 representing.
And now it's back behind Wii and PS2 worldwide. But yay Middle East.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
I mean both of those aren't unique to mobile gaming. Features and whole games from now will probably be unplayable in maybe 5 years.
Oh don't worry about that. You sound more like a child.
Father_Brain
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In the long term, sure. But it's definitely a more immediate problem for Nintendo given their target demographics.
The high upfront prices of console hardware and software are going to be a pretty formidable barrier to that for kids raised on mobile gaming.
LifeBrandRobot
Member
I'm going to miss handheld gaming 
I think he's a bit overreactive, but he's not entirely wrong.
Nintendo HAS to figure out some way with the NX to incorporate iOS/Android devices. If they're smart, they'll make games that run on NX, with a pruned down version on mobile so they can continue to play aspects of the game while not sitting in front of a TV.
If they try to sell a proprietary tablet, they might as well pound sand.
The thing is, it's not all doom and gloom. The new iPhone 6s benchmarks higher than lower end laptops; that is damn impressive, and means that we are quickly getting to a point where true convergence is going to take place in a few short years. People bitching about mobile "winning" the gaming market won't have an argument, because mobile will be providing experiences that mirror what you'd get on a traditional console/PC. Sure, you may need a third party controller and a cheap pass through dummy box if you want to play games the old school way on a TV, but who cares.
Developer resources are limited. The number of gamers and the time they can devote to games is limited.
Compare the total library of the DS to the 3DS. It's not even close.
I grew up with Flintstones, Jetsons, Jonny Quest, Swat Kats, Johnny Bravo etc.. The cartoons kids watch today are so terribad in comparison.
To play ports of mobile games in VR
Marty Chinn
Member
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Have you tried Hitman Go?
Pinko Marx
Banned
I seriously hope I never get so old and bitter that I start thinking in this manner.
Or Fallout Shelter?
Bolivar687
Banned
Free to play on mobile, like social gaming before it, is the Wild West of game publishing. The audience is much more capricious, the landscape winner-take-all, and hits are impossible to predict. No one should be surprised to see Rovio going the way of Zynga.
If anything, we've witnessed the opposite happen, as more content creators are migrating from other sectors onto console. We've seen this from notable PC publishers like Blizzard and Paradox, indie houses such as Curve and Devolver Digital, and even the CRPG renaissance boutiques like Larian and inXile. CD Projekt RED said The Witcher III would not have been anywhere near as big as it was, were it not for the consoles. Publishers are going to manage risk by continuing to allocate development dollars to platforms where their games are curated to a ravenous community and platform holders are willing to shoulder the costs of promoting their games.
Pankratous
Member
Does it 'really' count as gaming if it's just downloading throwaway titles because they're at the top of the app store?
My nephew played with an Ipad mini at that age. There are apps for toddlers which do kind of the same as some other toys for toddlers (fit shapes, animal sounds, puzzling together animals etc.). He knew how to navigate, start and quit apps. He even had an app for kid tv shows which had commercial pop ups which he closed. Everything seemed natural to him.
It was pretty great when he had to be in the hospital for a longer duration and the hospital staff thought it was so need, they asked for the respected apps etc. so they can have Ipads on the pediatrician hallway.
Scientist Supreme!
Banned
Yeah
I was just thinking this. Like what big kids games do the big two make? None. That audience is going to go where stuff is at and its on mobile.
Marty Chinn
Member
If they're playing them, then yes it does count.
Even though I agree with you in general, there's still the aspect that mobile devices have a lower barrier of entry and will likely be used at a younger age which sets a trend of just using those devices. Someone is unlikely to buy a console for their 3 or 4 year old.
SonicMegaDrive
Member
I'm more surprised that this has happened only just recently. I always assumed kids have been playing more mobile games for years.
InsaneZero
Member
You can change the headline from "Children are playing more on mobile" to "Children are spending less time on gaming", but does that actually change anything?