wapplew
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Back then, MS still has hope to be market leader so they put lots of effort into Titanfall, now they just try to make as much money as they can.
Totally different vibe.
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NPD Sales Results for October 2015 [Up1: Xbox #1]
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Back then, MS still has hope to be market leader so they put lots of effort into Titanfall, now they just try to make as much money as they can.
Totally different vibe.
Think about how some people complain about too much Mario, when in reality not many mainline ones are released. Halo Wars, MCC, ODST, all those I believe can attribute to fatigue.
Three theories:
1-New Vegas was amazing & the best shandified game ever, which millions played for hundreds of hours and f4 is reaping the benefits of that.
2-People liked the you-are-god-and-jesus rpg lite Skyrim a whole bunch, and f4 is reaping the benefits of that.
3-A bit of 1 and a bit of 2.
I've explained each post that you've brought up. Not sure how it's hypocrisy. Seems like you're simply saying that because you can't come up with anything else to say (and are giving up).
You took many of those posts out of their context either using them to try and state how I felt the game would help October system sales (when yet I was clearly referring to the Holiday season) or to try and say that I was expecting a 2:1 by bringing up how MGS4 helped PS3 sales and I wasn't -- I simply brought that up since I (at the time) expected the Xbox One to do better than the PS4 during the month Halo released.
I did expect a bigger impact from both but I'm not sure what that has to do with what I said about Uncharted 4 helping PS4 sales in March -- that's what started our discussion right?
As I said before, I was referring to the Holiday season as a whole in those posts you dug up from the past (haha). November and December results/stats aren't out yet since the month isn't over.
Halo 5 did help sell systems since it helped the XB1 sell more than the PS4 (NPD), something it rarely does. The same was true for MGS4's launch and the PS3 last gen (vs. 360). So I'm not sure I understand your push for a "gotcha!" moment considering that what I said in that post actually happened.
Well, it did at first, lol. But since I can see why Halo dropping off is such a hot topic and I did not dispute that. Anyway, I guess I will go cry myself to sleep with my Xbox One now.
Jesus.
This is definitely true for me. Far more interested in Fallout's setting/world than Skyrim's. I never had a great interest in the Middle Ages period to be honest.
And Titanfall launched at a period where XB1 was in a much worse place (sales and mindshare wise).
It's very interesting to compare all the climate that accompanied Halo 3 and now Halo 5.
Stone Ocean
Member
Smart business calls. Oblivion did great so Bethesda rode that wave and created a hefty fanbase with Fallout 3. Add New Vegas and Skyrim to the mix and you've got Fallout 4 cleaning house.
wapplew
Member
Also, no one really provide similar experience therefor less competition.
Am I wrong in thinking titanfall had more marketing. I seem to remember more, like that giant mech in a Berlin subway.
Titanfall absolutely had more marketing. There were commercials, billboards and Internet ads everywhere. The hype machine was in full force until the few days after release when MS and EA said nothing of the sales of the game.
That's what I'm saying. I remember that the marketing blitz for Titanfall was crazy.
There were ads everywhere, on websites, television, streets.
Maybe Halo was a victim of the holiday season, where the game is going against marketing behemoths fallout, cod and battlefront and MS decided to not spend big bucks trying to promote the game.
Japanmanx3
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Quote or point out who's salty. As is, you're the only one with your drive-by shitting. Nintendo fan pissed that every other platform is being discussed?
Just a heads up if you ever have to take a history test, there weren't dragons and shit around in the Middle Ages
. The fantasy genre is another story.Console sales down 20% so far in UK? Even if there have been bundles, soft bundles and deals ofany kind, + PS4's price cut?
This would deserve its own thread,IMHO.
Japanmanx3
Member
Lol oh wow dude...I've been in the thread. Some of current conversations are clearly on the defensive.
As to the bolded, the fact that Yoshi even charted is great. How am I pissed by any means lol?? Because I joked back at Y2Kev?
Mister Megative
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Fixed:
"X1 and PS4 sold below unrealistic expectations for October, and Sony shouldn't be surprised that a 50 dollar price drop didn't sell more PS4s, because in a few weeks you can get them for 299 with games included. X1 should be please they sold as many consoles as they did considering that ridiculous 499 price point weeks before the deals kick in".
Because you posted a picture of salty chips saying that's the thread right now, when there have been very few people that could even be construed as salty posting recently.
Not much that will have a sales impact. Certainly not NFS. There's Tomb Raider also.
Black Republican
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half a milli views for NPD thread, is this normal?
StrongBlackVine
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It will be $100 cheaper on the day that matters.
Deputy Moonman
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I'm confused. Aren't those aspirations one and the same? You want to be a market leader to make more money. If you're not a market leader, don't you still want to make money? That's generally the vibe of any business that wants to be successful.
A lot more than the last few. Halo sales decline seems to be mostly responsible for the last few pages. Before that it was back and forth about whether Sony or MS was more disappointed with the month.
If that was true then Sony would cut the price in november. They wanted a effect in october too, but response was disappointing.
If regular price was $299, you'd have retailers doing $249, or $279 with a $50 gift card on Black Friday.
Deputy Moonman
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Is there any way to get confirmation on the NPD numbers? When will we know?
Neuromancer
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MS deserves the views. It's not often they win the NPD. Let them have this.
unapersson
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Cutting in October makes sense if you want to boost the pre-orders of the bundles for November. The cut for the COD/Battlefront bundles were front and centre in the advertising.
StrongBlackVine
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Why is it sad? Are certain IPs entitled to massive sales? It's not a failure, it's just not a juggernaut any more.
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
Did they really win ?
Not entitled, more expected. Especially since this game is the first positive step for the series in a while in some people's eyes(I personally loved MCC, but I don't play Halo competitively).
StrongBlackVine
Banned
It doesn't need to be that cheap to sell.
Opus Angelorum
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In terms of placing first? Yes
CosmicQueso
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Never mind.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Be bigger than Halo soon.
MS should cut their losses and release NPD: The Game instead.
Huh? It's sad because it is a great franchise, plus Halo 5 is a damn fun game. I simply hate to see it drop off in popularity is all. Should I be celebrating instead?
FranXico
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No longer a PlayStation 4 exclusive.
To take a break from the circular Xbox vs PS4, Halo stuff
And may have been asked/answered, but how did the Toys-to-life segment perform? None of the 3 games are in the Top 10 and remember I think LEGO Dimensions missed Sept as well
Granted, those could be games that sell better on Black Friday while looking for gifts for kids, but has any of the 3 performed decently so far?
And may have been asked/answered, but how did the Toys-to-life segment perform? None of the 3 games are in the Top 10 and remember I think LEGO Dimensions missed Sept as well
Granted, those could be games that sell better on Black Friday while looking for gifts for kids, but has any of the 3 performed decently so far?
Just a heads up if you ever have to take a history test, there weren't dragons and shit around in the Middle Ages
Haha, yes I know.
I just meant the style/theme. Never attracted me.
Me not being attracted to it as well as anime plays a big role in why I've never been a huge RPG fan. Pokemon, Kingdom Hearts, Fallout, and Mass Effect is pretty much it for me when it comes to the genre.
Thebeardofknowledge
Banned
I think you know what i meant
winning only by 28k in halo month = lost
halo flopping hard = lost
StrongBlackVine
Banned
It will make money and there will be more Halo games. Why is sad if it sales 5 million instead of 9 million? Just because it did in the past?
Comments like these is exactly what I meant.
We know the baseline for digital sales for Halo 5 worldwide. MS said Halo 5 was the new best selling digital title on week one. Previously Minecraft held that title at 1,000,000 units. Using revenue as "best selling" Halo 5 is looking at 275,000 to 300,000. Using units, it is 1,000,000, but that is impossible.
As I just said. It is a huge franchise that I have always enjoyed and I simply find it sad that it has dropped off the way it has, despite Halo 5 being a great game. I don't know how else I can say it. But if you still take some sort of issue with that stance, then I guess that is your problem. Sorry.
How much should they have won by?
October =/= November or December. That alongside the PS4 doing well in US and having its first price drop pretty much meant that things were going to be close in my opinion (no more than a 50K gap).
The Xbox 360 got the #1 spot by only 27K during the month Halo 3 launched (September 2007). Was that a technical loss too?