Obliterator
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Is this for real? Or is this like some meta commentary or something
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NPD Sales Results for October 2015 [Up1: Xbox #1]
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Is this for real? Or is this like some meta commentary or something
The Mad Draklor
Member
If selling less than a third of what Halo 3, Reach, and 4 did constitutes "really well", then... ¯\_(ツ
_/¯It's just Senjutsu. Just relax and enjoy the Senjutsu.
Update.
Next month, PS4 and XB1 should easy beat November 2008 of the Wii ( 2.04m ) and December 2008 too ( 2.15m).
Wonder if they will close the gap January to October.
I'm looking at that and all I can focus on is how the Wii did in comparison to both systems separately (haha).
slavesnyder
Member
No wonder they both jumped on the waggle-train.
Aceofspades
Banned
To be honest, I expected Halo to move consoles similar to what Destiny did for PS4 on September last year, something like ~500k with ~150k gap. Halo is THE BIGGEST MS IP.
PS3 shat the bed during the holidays of that year, but 360 was still at 2.28M for Nov+Dec, which is respectable. The issue I see is that while PS4/XB1 post good to great holiday sales, the rest of the months aren't all that hot (in the US). PS4 is on fire in Europe based on those shipment numbers, but I don't see it passing the 360's final LTD in the US (even if you want to stop that total at the end of 2012 to account for the longer generation last time around).
Obliterator
Member
Wii was fucking crazy man. We will probably never see anything like it again.
Definitely understandable. I was expecting both systems to be in the 400K range (thanks to PS4's price drop) but with the gap being 1/3 of what you said.
I remember seeing sales each month around this point in the previous generation and thinking that there was no way that the Wii wasn't going to take PS2's crown as the best selling gaming system of all time. Then Nintendo did Nintendo stuff, and it ended the generation with a 50M deficit over the PS2.
Japanmanx3
Member
Yet people didn't wanna believe me when I said the salt was in here.
Anyway. Next month will decide the winner of this month tbh. It shall be interesting...
Anyway. Next month will decide the winner of this month tbh. It shall be interesting...
and decently entertaining
KillerMan91
Member
Oh. I agree that PS4 will not reach X360s final LTD in US. Still combined PS4 and Xbox One could have bigger final LTD than last gen HD twins as I see both selling more than PS3 did.
Interficium
Banned
The Halo faithful spin on the capital-B Bad Halo numbers reminds me of when I posted the picture of Halo 5 already being out of the top 20 in twitch viewer numbers like day 3 of it's release.
The people in the Halo OT with a straight face said it was because Halo fans were "too busy playing Halo to watch Twitch."
....
With <1m week one sales (probably closer to 800k without bundles), and an attach that currently stands at an abysmal 10%, what's the ceiling for LTD Halo 5 sales? 5 million?
The people in the Halo OT with a straight face said it was because Halo fans were "too busy playing Halo to watch Twitch."
....
With <1m week one sales (probably closer to 800k without bundles), and an attach that currently stands at an abysmal 10%, what's the ceiling for LTD Halo 5 sales? 5 million?
Not even a price drop and Halo combined beated a normal month of the Wii...
But the most impressive thing is that is not even close, we talk about >200k gap even if we combined PS4 and XB1.
Giriath_89
Member
Missed a few pages. I'd just like to say that if Knack is ever put on PS+ it will be the one game I don't download just because it's free.
lol I like how you are turning this around me mixing up what you said. I am just going to stop here with regards to this back and forth and you can think I gave up or didn't want to have a true conversation!!
this is for the future for everybody in this thread
uncharted 4 will move more than 307k ps4 consoles in March and I won't beat around the bush if I end up being wrong!!
see how easy it is predict what you think will happen? here is another: uncharted with bundles (I think there will be a uc4 collectors edition ps4)will sell more than the 935k halo did with bundles at retail
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
I know this is a narrative you are pushing, but just to remind you that the price drop affected all bundles, 3/4 of which release in November. There was little incentive to buy in October unless you really has to have the console now.
The Mad Draklor
Member
4/5 if you want to include the Walmart exclusive Star Wars bundle. Not to mention, Walmart is pushing Star Wars hard ahead of release.
Neuromancer
Member
Japanmanx3
Member
I noticed this too. It didn't last long at all. Which I found very telling.
This was really too much.
360 with Halo 3 sold 528,000 unit, and in two weeks.
Destiny boosted PS4 more than 360 in the Halo month.
If you expected Halo 5 to move consoles at Destiny level, you expected Halo 5 to move more consoles than Halo 3, which was just impossible, even with Halo 5 at > 2million.
Why not? Knack is a good game. Not fantastic or anything but it is good imo.
768 viewers, yikes.
igordennis
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Holeeyy shiit. Syndicate sold like 15% of what AC 3 did.
This was never really stated in the prediction thread from what I remember. People still expected the PS4 to take the month thanks to it being the #1 console with its first price drop and MS not being clear on Halo sales (including me). The aggregate predictions for October alone show this. Not sure what you were trying to get at with "narrative".
Obliterator
Member
Yeah I mean that franchise is basically DOA now. I'm hella curious what Ubi's outlook is for the rest of the franchise. It needs a good 3 years off to entirely redo and rethink the entire thing
CosmicQueso
Member
As a big AC fan, this is a bummer. Especially since Syndicate is supposed to be good (waiting for PC version).
But, franchises come and franchises go.
Guess there isn't as core a fanbase for AC as some other franchises though, seeing as how no one has seemed to care at all about these numbers being low or tried to fight them as being wrong and made up by liars and random idiots on the internet.
Not to cherry pick, but that title would go to Minecraft now, no?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Well its not all downturns for mega franchises, as I hear Black Ops 3 is supposed to be selling "significantly" better than the last two. It helps that its significantly better than the last two, multiplayer wise.
Obliterator
Member
November in general will be likely good vibes. COD is up, Fallout 4 is giant, and Battlefront will be huge. It'll be a nice change of pace from October
Edit: Though we will get plenty of Tomb Raider doom so we'll have a big flop to talk about as well
Not next year at least. But if the movie and game bombs, then yeah, big changes.
I wonder though, if they are going to reboot it next year since Micheal Fassbender is playing Desmond* and they are going back to ass creed ii Italy.
*They renamed Desmond 'Callum Lynch', which is like one step away from Rad Heroman.
Crazy. I am having a good time with Syndicate, but the series needs a hardcore reboot after a good 2 year break or so. It could work wonders.
AC has its fanbase. I think a number of people just go sick of buying these games at full price when they are always on sale for $40 on Black Friday less than a month later. That and the issues with Unity last year.
Ubisoft needs to give the series a rest, and come back with Assassins' Creed 5 in 2017 or 2018. Revise history so that Unity and Syndicate weren't really main games.
Yeah -- that's where I'm at now. I was thinking of skipping Unity (due to the issues) but I got a digital code for it for $10. Still haven't played it yet.
I don't like rushing through games but it seems like the only way I can keep up to date with the AC series is by rushing (since the games come out yearly). It seems like this is true for other people too. Bad spot.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
yea, RIP Tomb Raider, good luck on Black Friday
Destiny bundle for PS4 was an anomaly. It happen 10 months in the 1st year of launch so there was still new generation hype. It was the white console color sku, so that had its own attraction. Also there long thread on slickdeals in summer 2014 of people buying used systems from cowboom and trading them into Gamestop when they were giving $398 trade in value for them if you purchased a XB1 or PS4. You were also able to put the credit toward the White PS4 Destiny bundle. Which most were doing.
No doubt Halo 3 was the high mark for the series as far as sales go. Sept. 2007 MS moved about 520K Xbox 360. I will add though a month before the core Xbox 360 price dropped to $280.
It still is...
Halo 5: Guardians Smashes Record with Biggest Halo Launch in History
One week after launching worldwide, Halo 5: Guardians has made history as the biggest Halo launch and fastest-selling Xbox One exclusive game to-date, with more than $400 million in global sales of Halo 5: Guardians games and hardware, pushing the franchise to over $5 billion lifetime. With the highest week one attach rate for a Microsoft first party title on Xbox One, the game was the most played of any game on Xbox One, as well as the most played on Xbox Live.
https://news.xbox.com/2015/11/04/halo-5-guardians-biggest-halo-launch-in-history/
I'm a little worried about Ubis outlook in general.
DeepEnigma
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And a search button.
Hockeymac18
Member
I know the series has seen a huge decline, but did all of those games ship in October? Like the Halo 5 comparisons, I think this is a huge variable as November can really skew things. Again, not saying there isn't an obvious decline, just that addressing the percentage of the decline isn't necessarily that straight forward based on those raw values.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
Whatever you have to tell yourself...
Halo Reach: 3,300,000 / 17 days = 194,118
Halo 5 Guardians: 940,000 / 5 days = 188,000
I guess it could be true when you add in digital. I still expected Halo 5 to do more though.
Futurematic
Member
A few hundred thousand consoles at best, generally. There is an academic paper on the subject.
The Effect of Superstar Software on Hardware Sales in System Markets
The Mad Draklor
Member
Hopefully, hardware sales will be good, too. If the PS4 sells less than 1 million, then that's not good.
Ploid 3.0
Member
Halo Wars 2 announced?
Off topic: I remember when selling above 500k over a long period of time was amazing. So much money is put into games these days that 500k day/month one is now a joke. Also when will greatest hits start for this gen? I want to see the new covers.
Obliterator
Member
Fun Fact: The vast majority of Reach's sales were in the first 5 days anyways
No doubt. 1 million minimum is a must
Ninja Sharingan
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Hi guys so November will be the big tell tale month. I see a lot of talk of halo etc. I believe this was uncharted release month, has there been any discussion on this? Numbers etc. I know Sony thought a lot of customers had moved from 360 to ps4 and expected/wanted uncharted to do well. Has this been discussed here? Is there a reason it is so low in the charts. Number 9 must be dire low, surely? I'm a big uncharted fan, I wanted it to do better
A joke as always.