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NPD Sales Results for October 2015 [Up1: Xbox #1]
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Lol ok.
Rated-Rsuperstar
Member
Ok. Didnt know.
hydrophilic attack
Member
There are leaked numbers for the console sales and for a few games (including Halo and AssCreed) in the thread. Leaked numbers are never put in the OP, because if leaks would be very easy to find, NPD would not tolerate them. Interested people will be able to find numbers by going through the thread. It is not worth it to risk the possibility of not getting such leaks in the future just to accommodate people that don't feel like reading the thread.
You don't have to read everything. Read a few posts then skip several pages and read a few more posts. You will be able to figure out when things are getting interesting, and then maybe you'll find a username you can Ctrl+f or use as input into gaf's search function to find the good stuff quickly.
panda-zebra
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Thread was dead and going nowhere around post #170.
You look to your "4,500 spin posts", I'll look back to posts giving way more detailed numbers, the insightful analysis that followed and some of GAF's finest fun moments in recent times.
wapplew
Member
Not really. But that just 5 days of tracking plus it get a whole month of crazy holiday to catch up.
With heavy bundle and discount and no more big AAA to choose from until Quantum break, Xbox owner might eventually pick up a copy if 343 keep making fresh content for it.
So what you're saying is this month was interesting.
I need to sit down and think about this.
You said it's too early to call it a decline. I think that's pretty silly.
I'm assuming that November's NPD will be much more interesting just because of the bundles and games on offer.
We've acknowledged Halo to not be the system seller it once was, and PS4 didn't have a major exclusive last month.
This month both are going to be fighting tooth and nail, especially around black friday
We've acknowledged Halo to not be the system seller it once was, and PS4 didn't have a major exclusive last month.
This month both are going to be fighting tooth and nail, especially around black friday
I think the universe will be stuck on fall out 4, black ops 3 and battlefront for a long time
Anything else that came before that (or on that same day) will be forgotten by the true monsters of the holiday season, the AAA multi platform titles
The days of exclusives ruling the holidays and pushing consoles are over, they are done
Anything else that came before that (or on that same day) will be forgotten by the true monsters of the holiday season, the AAA multi platform titles
The days of exclusives ruling the holidays and pushing consoles are over, they are done
Glorified G
Member
Not first week, but first NPD
Assassin's Creed - 1,357,000
Assassin's Creed 2 - 1,243,000
Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood - 1,143,000
Assassin's Creed: Revelation - 1,200,000
Assassin's Creed 3 - 2,900,000
We have not numbers for Black Flag and Unity.
Primethius
Banned
Opus Angelorum
Member
Appreciate the tips, I guess I've been on GAF way too long...NPD threads are full of misdirection and rambling from people who don't know much
gundamkyoukai
Member
Exclusives never rule the holidays .
I mean you can say so during the PS2 era but that was because PS2 was monster market share wise.
fallen_dawn
Member
Are Google Trends in anyway useful for roughly comparing the interest in a title over time? I know you can't really get any useful specific data out of it, but it does show the popularity of a search term relative to other Google searches (note it is not absolute searches). If anything, at least it isn't effected by the tracking period... Here's the Halo search trend over time (I put Halo + the numbered Halo titles in for comparison).
There's simply too many indications that the popularity of Halo is dropping over time to try and argue otherwise by citing tracking periods, digital, etc.
There's simply too many indications that the popularity of Halo is dropping over time to try and argue otherwise by citing tracking periods, digital, etc.
I know that, you know that, but the conversation will always be "but X company does not have X exclusive for the holiday season"
Mmmmmmmmh.
Mmmmmh. Mmmmmh.
It tastes so good. Your salt is high quality salt. Delicious.
Seriously, there's no need to downplay Halo 5 sales: less than 1 million retail + bundles in the first few days is an insane drop compared to the past performances. At this point, I doubt its US LTD will be much more than, let's say 60% of Halo 3/Halo 4 first month sales.
Come on Splatoon, you can do it!
The sooner some people accept the fact that Halo 5 sold much worse than the previous few games, the better.
Katana_Strikes
Member
Downplay? Spin?
No. It's the cold hard truth. Some just won't accept that, others will only see it how they want to see it. The rest of us hunted the truth. #findthetruth
It really is s shame we can't make dedicated threads for the AC and Halo sales to discuss them at length and make people aware of where they stand historically with each respective franchise. As it is very few people will actually read this thread and see the real results behind all the PR buffoonery.
You want NeoGAF to meltdown, bruh?
But seriously, I don't like servers to be slowing down to a crawl, although it is funny at times. Anyway, you can show them the evidence if it is brought up in other threads.
As much as I would love to see the spin and tears....it's probably for the best. My father taught me to never kick someone when they're down
JetSetRadio
Banned
Was George legit?
gaming_noob
Member
Yea we need a thread to rub it in to make ourselves feel better. Halo 5 decline has already been discussed the last 50 pages.
The sooner some people accept the fact that Halo 5 sold much worse than the previous few games, the better.
Won't happen with some, sadly.
Too many times this gen so far we've already seen that certain fans will sooner choose denial over acceptance in the face of truths too harsh to deal with.
Gonna be a tough gen for some.
Well, he isn't banned, sooo...
He is, if you believe hard enough.
HocusPocus
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Congrats to Microsoft. I believe with the Black Friday deals they will win November.
Halo sales would be considered a blockbuster for ps4 exclusives this gen to date. Will be interesting to see how it ends the year. I predict it around 2..5 million with holiday sales.
Halo sales would be considered a blockbuster for ps4 exclusives this gen to date. Will be interesting to see how it ends the year. I predict it around 2..5 million with holiday sales.
I understand that it is saddening for some that their favorite franchise hasn't sold this bad since the first game, but damn. Some of the bullshit made up almost makes up feel as if some are completely disjointed from reality or refuse to accept it and make up their own fantasy instead. To be fair, I would be disappointed too if Uncharted 4 sold less than, say, 300K, but I'm not gonna make up shit to cover it up.
Case in point:
But I hope he hasn't been keeping up with sales discussions.
The problem with the NPD threads is that the revelations within often have relatively little exposure with the members at large. The vast majority of GAF likely has no idea how much either series has declined with their most recent release and likely never will. In fact many probably believe the opposite thanks to some incredibly misleading PR that was paraded around.
This isn't about drumming up controversies it's about cutting through all the or bullshit and providing transparency for sales of two of the biggest gaming IPs in the business. Making sure publishers can't spin their way out of public awareness. That seems like a pretty worthwhile topic to me.
ethomaz
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4 276k
1 305k
All include bundles below:
5 935k
AC 391k
U ~300k
All from my head so it can have mistakes.
Halo franchise grown from 60m to 65m after Halo MCC, so I suppose 4 million (or more) is because of the Collection.
5.5m is low for Halo 5 LTD because no doubt Microsoft will abuse of bundles in the future.
CosmicQueso
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The last few pages are weird.
I wish I could have the optimism for anything like some do on Halo. I also wish I still believed in Santa Claus, that I could play in the majors and that I could be an astronaut. Sadly, reality is a harsh mistress.
I get what you're saying, and I appreciate it. But after having looked at some other boards yesterday and seen the things that were being said about people posting, well, without official NPD numbers from official sources, the conversation would likely devolve and not be about the numbers but rather about where the numbers came from. I can't imagine the end result would be what you'd want it to be. Some people would just rather not know. Those that are here, generally, do want to know and can (for the most part) talk about this stuff rationally and dispassionately. The general community though? Not sure.
If IGN or some major site did a story? Then sure, my opinion would be that a thread would be justified. But right now? No, I don't think the sources are solid enough for the public to accept. Know what I mean?
I wish I could have the optimism for anything like some do on Halo. I also wish I still believed in Santa Claus, that I could play in the majors and that I could be an astronaut. Sadly, reality is a harsh mistress.
I get what you're saying, and I appreciate it. But after having looked at some other boards yesterday and seen the things that were being said about people posting, well, without official NPD numbers from official sources, the conversation would likely devolve and not be about the numbers but rather about where the numbers came from. I can't imagine the end result would be what you'd want it to be. Some people would just rather not know. Those that are here, generally, do want to know and can (for the most part) talk about this stuff rationally and dispassionately. The general community though? Not sure.
If IGN or some major site did a story? Then sure, my opinion would be that a thread would be justified. But right now? No, I don't think the sources are solid enough for the public to accept. Know what I mean?
AmaterasuOni
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What do PS4 exclusives have to do with Halo?
Katana_Strikes
Member
We know the MCC has not even sold 1 million in the US by end of 2014... i really don't see how is at 4 million WW now, even with the XB1 bundle released in March.
That said, as for now, Halo 5 seem like is not selling much better than the MCC, so, 5.5 million seem a good bet. Maybe 6 million, but i really don't see 7 million.
No doubt it will be subject to all the buy 2 get 1 free deals going on but afaik I'm not aware of any Halo specific discounts.
In fact Halo MCC sold more than 1 million by the end of 2014. This come from creamsugar.
Abdiel's comments that BlOps3 effectively killed any continuing Halo 5 sales at BB was certainly a bad sign for legs. Halo 3 was the last release where Halo was the preeminent FPS (arguably) on the market. COD4 came out two months later, and the market has been shifted toward COD ever since. The fans already on 360 continued to buy Halo, but new FPS fans went toward the new king of the genre. You can argue (effectively) that Halo 4 and then MCC soured many in the Halo fanbase on the series. Halo 5 would seem to be better in that regards, but it remains to be seen how much of the previous fanbase they'll get back and on a non-360 system. It's tough to get people to come back after they leave, so Halo 5 seems destined to underperform LTD compared to the previous entries. These terrible first month sales and early reports of legs dying due to COD certainly do nothing to change that expectation.
Actually, I expect Microsoft to start shoving Halo 5 in multi-game hardware bundles (as the secondary game to whatever the bundle is based on) a year or so from now. Sort of like what they did with Halo 3 and Halo Reach. That will drive LTD "sales" up quite a bit. Sony did the same thing with the Naughty Dog games. In the later part of the generation, you started seeing first party games like Uncharted 1/2 bundled with dual shock 3s.
Good point. I suppose deniability would be an issue. Perhaps we should light the press sneak fuck signal.
CosmicQueso
Member
So Knack really will be the game people will associate with this gen, won't it. Sigh.
Really hoping for MS to do another temp price slash as unsure how else they'll compete in Nov/Dec. I thought the whole 'holiday exclusives' would do more but cant tell really what effect they've had - post the Halo 5 bundling I'm not sure what other official bundles MS have (FO4 I presume as I don't think RoTR did in the US)
If it stays like it is I can see the PS4 regaining whatever ground it lost last Nov/Dec - for some reason I feel the price cut effect has been delayed due to people picking up the Nov bundles in particular the Star Wars one.
BF pricing no doubt had an affect on why anyone would buy a XO/PS4 in Oct
ps3ud0 8)
If it stays like it is I can see the PS4 regaining whatever ground it lost last Nov/Dec - for some reason I feel the price cut effect has been delayed due to people picking up the Nov bundles in particular the Star Wars one.
BF pricing no doubt had an affect on why anyone would buy a XO/PS4 in Oct
ps3ud0 8)