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Nunes and the GOP are playing dirty, Subpoena Fusion GPS w/o telling Dems

Syriel

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Fusion GPS is the company that hired Christopher Steele to produce what is now known as the "Steele dossier." Both the company and Steele have been cooperating with investigators (both Muller and the House), and much of the dossier has been accepted by the intelligence community.

Yet, out of nowhere, Nunes decided to formally subpoena the company.

Rep. Devin Nunes, the California Republican who chairs the House Intelligence Committee, issued subpoenas to a U.S. firm involved in the Donald Trump dossier without consulting the Democrats on the committee, three people familiar with the matter told NBC News.

A source close to Fusion GPS, a firm co-founded by Wall Street Journal reporter Glenn Simpson, confirmed to NBC News that its partners received subpoenas from the committee. And a Democratic congressional source told NBC News that the subpoenas were issued unilaterally by the Republicans, "despite good faith engagement thus far by the witnesses on the potential terms for voluntary cooperation."

A spokesman for Nunes did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Nunes "stepped away" from the House Russia investigation after he was targeted by an ethics complaint over his actions involving reviewing secret documents provided to him by the White House. But he says that was not a formal recusal, and he retains the power as committee chairman to issue subpoenas.

Fusion GPS was hired by an unknown Republican organization to conduct opposition research on Trump during the primaries, and it engaged Christopher Steele, a former British intelligence operative, to collect information from his sources in Russia. An unknown Democratic group later took over the funding, people familiar with the matter say.

Source:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...mocrats/ar-AAtgXOi?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
 
I thought it was a bit of a joke that Nunes would have some dirty laundry in all this, but the way he has acted has been shitty even for a Republican.
 

Syriel

Member
Right? If they’re already cooperating and they want to get this info out there, why would they care?

Optics.

Cooperating includes agreeing what to cover in testimony.

Subpoena makes it easy for GOP to ask questions about unrelated things that Fusion may not want to reveal for competitive reasons. That either screws them over, or makes it easy for Nunes to say "LOOK! They're HIDING SOMETHING! Why won't they just ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS?!?"
 

Slime

Banned
Optics.

Cooperating includes agreeing what to cover in testimony.

Subpoena makes it easy for GOP to ask questions about unrelated things that Fusion may not want to reveal for competitive reasons. That either screws them over, or makes it easy for Nunes to say "LOOK! They're HIDING SOMETHING! Why won't they just ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS?!?"

Bet Putin slipped him a line of questioning that will embarrass the firm.
 

Vena

Member
Optics.

Cooperating includes agreeing what to cover in testimony.

Subpoena makes it easy for GOP to ask questions about unrelated things that Fusion may not want to reveal for competitive reasons. That either screws them over, or makes it easy for Nunes to say "LOOK! They're HIDING SOMETHING! Why won't they just ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS?!?"

Well there's a conflict here that arises from Mueller's investigation and potentially sensitive details that GPS could use to deflect/say that they cannot share due to ongoing investigation. Nunes' is trying to play coy but really he's against someone with far more intelligence in how to handle these things.

Nunes is an idiot, he's completely ham-handed with his maneuvers and just paints a target on his own back with each move.
 

Vena

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But this doesn't gain him anything directly and without further action, it actually brings the Russian dossier back into the spotlight, and that's *not* what the GOP (or Trump) want. To attack it, they have to bring it back into the spotlight.

Now, possibly, this indicates that the dossier is becoming incriminating (or a scary piece of material for Mueller's probe that could have far reaching consequenches) and that they will risk bringing it back up to the spotlight in order to try to attack it before it comes to a head. But in attacking it, they also make it poisonous if the courts/DAs finally start getting involved in striking cases because attacking evidence is never a great idea before that evidence is relevant... it just begs "Why are you attacking it if it means nothing and no charges yet exist?"
 
Have the feeling that both parties (I know, I said it) are trying to protect the identities of the funding partners for Fusion here.

Nunes has the additional inspiration of trying to discredit the entire operation.
 
But this doesn't gain him anything directly and without further action, it actually brings the Russian dossier back into the spotlight, and that's *not* what the GOP (or Trump) want. To attack it, they have to bring it back into the spotlight.

Now, possibly, this indicates that the dossier is becoming incriminating and that they will risk bringing it back up to the spotlight in order to try to attack it before it comes to a head.
Could be, unless we were about to hear about it anyway.
 

Vena

Member
Could be, unless we were about to hear about it anyway.

Yes, as per my edit, if it is coming to a head, they may be trying to get in front of it or find a way to silence it by attacking Fusion GPS. But that's a very dubious vector that would only be worse for them in court than if they did nothing.

I am having a hard time grasping their exact through-thought here because if this reaches incriminating charges, an attack on evidence before charges are even levied effectively embellishes the evidence as true.
 
Yes, as per my edit, if it is coming to a head, they may be trying to get in front of it or find a way to silence it by attacking Fusion GPS. But that's a very dubious vector that would only be worse for them in court than if they did nothing.
That's Trump's M.O. though. And Nunes is his imp.
 
Which means the dossier is all true

Doubtful it's 100% true as it's all second hand info, never mind the fact that another Michael Cohen was in Prague that day.

But some of it is definitely confirmed true which doesn't make Trump and Russia look innocent.

There's a reason Mueller is working away. They know shit went down, they just need to prove it in court.
 

gcubed

Member
Doubtful it's 100% true as it's all second hand info, never mind the fact that another Michael Cohen was in Prague that day.

But some of it is definitely confirmed true which doesn't make Trump and Russia look innocent.

There's a reason Mueller is working away. They know shit went down, they just need to prove it in court.

I don't know, having this slime ball who rushed to gobble Trump's cock in the middle of the night and who was recused from the investigation still.... I don't know... Investigating this particular thing makes me heavily lean towards all true
 
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