Barry Burton
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Maybe not zero, but I'm not expecting much more than the token support that the Wii U got for its first few months.
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NX launching in March to make sure there are games to go along with it
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Pokemaniac
Member
It's not a bad reason, but there not even being NX stuff at E3 is worrying.
Fair enough. That said, isn't the Animal Crossing team also responsible for Splatoon? If so, I wonder if (and how) they'll juggle between two large IPs.
Yeah, it's either set to be delayed or not a console at all. Or it's just because there are no third-party games so they need to get more mini-projects ready.
Zelda alone isn't enough to launch the NX. For all the plaudits each game receives it isn't a Mario, GTA or even FIFA (sales-wise).
Like everybody, I haven't a clue what Nintendo has up its sleeves but it better me a lot more than Link riding around a pretty meadow on horseback.
Like everybody, I haven't a clue what Nintendo has up its sleeves but it better me a lot more than Link riding around a pretty meadow on horseback.
Yea I don't get how games won't be ready in November but ready in March. I think it would be better to get the NX out in Nov. Then spread out the games for a year. WiiU had games at launch but not huge 1st party games, and then nothing until like August.
LukasTaves
Member
So xbone 2 is the console expected for this year from AMD?
I was expecting PS Neo to be 2017, but I though for sure NX would be too.
I was expecting PS Neo to be 2017, but I though for sure NX would be too.
Mario 64 was a killer app and justified the purchase. I don't expect Nintendo to match that.The Wii also had a solid launch.,..but again Wii Sports was the killer app. In liu of a killer app, having a dearth of actual good games is ideal.
gigantor21
Member
I wouldnt be surprised if the rumored "stacked lauch lineup" was just Zelda, a proof of concept minigame collection and a bunch of WiiU remasters/third party late ports. REALLY hoping theres more than that though.
pinkurocket
Member
Alright, this is not the time to rush something out the door for Nintendo. The NX launch needs to be right, same with the reveal.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Despite all that restructuring, sounds like Nintendo's pipeline is just as drought prone as ever.
Supporting their next box after looking at the WiiU's fate feels like a poor use of my cash.
Supporting their next box after looking at the WiiU's fate feels like a poor use of my cash.
Hope we at least get a "what the fuck is it?" explanation at E3 and some trailers. Shit, just show me some logos.
I'll almost definitely buy a new Nintendo console, unless they go "lol everything is free to play". Love the Wii U, fantastic first party library and some of the best local multiplayer ever.
I'll almost definitely buy a new Nintendo console, unless they go "lol everything is free to play". Love the Wii U, fantastic first party library and some of the best local multiplayer ever.
There will never be a more perfect launch game for any console as Super Mario 64
aygomyownroad
Member
I am liking Nintendo's honesty.
Admitting WiiU Zelda needed more work, admitting that the NX will release 3 months later than the busiest shopping period of the year as there will be not enough games.
March is a good time. In time for Easter, out when most people have recovered from Christmas, out so when the school holidays come a few months later there is still a good demand for it.
Nintendo I hope you show us the NX soon, and some games you have in development, get us excited
Admitting WiiU Zelda needed more work, admitting that the NX will release 3 months later than the busiest shopping period of the year as there will be not enough games.
March is a good time. In time for Easter, out when most people have recovered from Christmas, out so when the school holidays come a few months later there is still a good demand for it.
Nintendo I hope you show us the NX soon, and some games you have in development, get us excited
That's on Game Freak, who prefers to keep mainline Pokémon games on handhelds. As long as they make the mainline games, they'll never come to consoles....unless the shared platform theory pans out & the console can play the handheld's games.
TheOfficeMut
Unconfirmed Member
I hate this dismissive attitude that only addresses console wars. The issue isn't really that NX is coming out in March along with games, but that Wii U owners are getting nothing for at least two years prior to NX's release. And because they're getting an abysmal amount of games between now and then, THEN the issue becomes NX releasing in March because nothing is coming out.
Maybe I'm missing something with this list, but isn't the last one completely different from the others? Or is this the point? I'm not really sure I understand, because the tone of the post makes it seem like it's in line with all the others, but it's like...the exact opposite?
Hero of Legend
Member
Have they commented on why NX is skipping E3 yet?
Yes its long term planning but it started several years ago and will hopefully pay off with the NX. There isn't a short term solution to magically create more games out of thin air. So as I said if things improve now, Iwata deserves a large part of the credit, not so much Kimishima.
No, and they won't.
unless the games excuse is just a front and they can't produce enough consoles for a worldwide launch in 2016
which seems more likely considering what we have heard through the grapevine
LegendofLex
Member
No, you're correct. NX is the only case where we see evidence of a specific action Nintendo is taking (not releasing during the holidays) to avoid software droughts, apart from "intensifying software development."
Even the PS4 suffered from the infamous meme 'no games' in the first year or two of its release. And that is a platform that had full third party support! I doubt Nintendo will enjoy the same third party support as Sony did before launch and well, them waiting to show the NX off until there are enough games to show off doesn't sound too good to me when it does release with 'enough' games. I wish them all the best though, they need to start the hype this fall and start that rollercoaster of anticipation when we do start to see what the NX will offer. Hopefully with the same initial excitement the Wii brought.
Tons of people stampeding and running straight into the line to play the Wii at E3, if they can do that again with NX ... ah wait.
Tons of people stampeding and running straight into the line to play the Wii at E3, if they can do that again with NX ... ah wait.
Barry Burton
Member
It may be less about the November games not being ready until March, and more like January/February/March games not being ready until April/May/June. Launching in March potentially sets them up for a strong launch, and a strong Spring, Summer and Fall. The GameCube had a really strong launch and then nothing for almost 5 months before Resident Evil came out.
Basically, Nintendo may want their cake and eat it too. It's possible that they could have launched this holiday with a strong lineup, but left themselves with another drought until March/April. Or they could've done what you suggested and have a softer launch, and spread out the other games. NX around March makes sense if they want to launch with a strong lineup and still have regular releases throughout the remainder of the year, whereas maybe a November launch wouldn't have allowed that.
I don't know. I'm trying to be positive. I am! Nintendo makes it really hard sometimes, but damn it, I'm trying.
Bony Manifesto
Member
And yet Nintendo feel confident enough to not announce the thing any time soon.
The timing just seems unreasonably tight for third parties, especially when the NX is described as being something new (rather than an iterative design), and Nintendo have delayed the console launch because they're struggling to get their own games finished.
They upgraded too many units to butlers instead of strategists.
Where are you getting this "nothing for two years" nonsense? Take a look at this list of new Nintendo-published Wii U games in North America, March 2015 to March 2017:
====2015====
March
5) Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars (eShop)
20) Mario Party 10
May
29) Splatoon
September
11) Super Mario Maker
October
16) Yoshi's Wooly World
22) Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water (eShop)
November
13) Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival
20) Mario Tennis: Ultra Smash
December
4) Xenoblade Chronicles X
11) Devil's Third
====2016====
March
4) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD
18) Pokkén Tournament
25) Mini Mario & Friends: Amiibo Challenge (eShop)
April
22) StarFox Zero
22) StarFox Guard
June
24) Mario & Sonic at the 2016 Rio Olympic Games
24) Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE
November?
??) Paper Mario: Color Splash
====2017====
March
??) The Legend of Zelda Wii U
I mean that looks to me like 19 new games in the roughly 24 months leading up to the NX launch.
AcademicSaucer
Member
At this point I wonder if they are going to make their 1 hour Digital event, Maybe they just make a Zelda mini-direct on Sunday and thats it.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Poor Nintendo forgot to send the devkits
PhoenixDawn
Member
Hopefully they actually carry out this plan, Wii U was an absolute disaster launch in my eyes. Especially with how they kept delaying out the "launch window" period to nearly absurd lengths. If this is how they're going to do it they'd better have Zelda, Mario and Pikmin 4/other niche game like that ready right at launch to carry it from the start.
Now check how many Nintendo developed games are among those.
Prisoner KSC2-303
Member
Whilst I agree in terms of first party titles, the drawbacks to a March release come in the form of the big hitting third party titles, which will be later than on other consoles and cost more, so have an increased chance of poor sales.
Like it or not, synching up with when EA or Activision drop their big hitters is the easiest way to open the door to their continued third party support. A FIFA and a CoD that fail to sell (because they're anywhere from four to six months late and cost more than their reduced prices on rival systems) will only create the kind of self fulfilling prophecy that those titles will never sell on a Nintendo console, and when that supply line starts to close, it never reopens.
I'd prefer an early release with a reliance on big hitting multi-plats, and have to twiddle my thumbs waiting for the abundance of Nintendo titles; those are an inevitability, whilst the opposite is not, and it's the lack of third party support that continues to hurt Nintendo consoles.
Either way it must have been a tough call for Nintendo, there really isn't an easy answer. Release too soon, and risk a lack of momentum and the same droughts; release later and miss the biggest sales period of the year and show up with dated third party ports that may not sell.
Milly Osworth
Member
Nintendo has been making videogame consoles for over 30 years, yet it always seems to take them by surprise when they release a new console. Mind-boggling.
This reads like there won't be a lot of support from third party games and they need at least one first party game per month to drive sales during its first year.
I mean, just i magine If Wii U would had launched with Mario Kart, Splatoon, Mario Maker, or Smash Bros. That would have made a difference.
I mean, just i magine If Wii U would had launched with Mario Kart, Splatoon, Mario Maker, or Smash Bros. That would have made a difference.
Jack Scofield
Member
You beat me to it! The original post on GAF is one of my favorites.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=100006922&postcount=39
StarStabbedMoon
Member
This is one of those philosophical "chicken or the egg" questions.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
This thing had better be great when it releases. Nintendo can't afford another blunder. Right now, it's hard to be confident with what they have been doing.
LegendofLex
Member
fixed
StarStabbedMoon
Member
What does that matter? That's like trying to dismiss Pokemon and Fire Emblem games from the 3DS lineup.
Punchy4486
Banned
Changing the entire concept of the console/controller only caused a delay of 3-4 months?
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
As someone with multiple systems, I wish every console had a library as good as the Wii U with several high quality exclusives each year. I can always grab multiplatform games on Steam.
I don't think that's relevant to the person I was replying to, who claimed that Wii U owners will have gotten nothing for two years prior to NX's launch, which I think I proved false. (And thinking about it, the way he said that, I could have thrown in the handful of third-party games released during that time, too, but whatever.)
But for you, KingSnake, for the sake of it, I shall fulfill your request =P
====2015====
March
5) Mario vs. Donkey Kong: Tipping Stars (eShop)
20) Mario Party 10
May
29) Splatoon
September
11) Super Mario Maker
October
22) Fatal Frame: Maiden of Black Water (eShop; co-developed with Koei Tecmo)
November
13) Animal Crossing: Amiibo Festival
December
4) Xenoblade Chronicles X
====2016====
March
4) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD
25) Mini Mario & Friends: Amiibo Challenge (eShop)
April
22) StarFox Zero (co-developed with Platinum Games)
22) StarFox Guard (co-developed with Platinum Games)
November?
??) Paper Mario: Color Splash
====2017====
March
??) The Legend of Zelda Wii U
13 games in 24 months; three of which were co-developed with outside companies