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[BlastProcessing]

Well I remember Maddow reporting that Nunes has a vineyard in Russia or something like that. soooo...

That story was interesting. A distributor connected to Putin did buy wine from a vineyard that Nunes invested in, but it was only a one time purchase of a small amount of barrels. If anything it was a little probing first step. I'm not convinced that that act, in itself, shows any real connection.

The takeaway I had about that story was that Nunes invested a large portion of his net worth in that vineyard and that amount was only $50,000. The dude is so small potatoes that he would have a hard time passing up some sweetheart deal that looked too good to be true.

 

[LakeEarth]

Hey conspiracy theorists, here's one unravelling before your eyes! I hope you enjoy it instead of denying it in favor for some other gibberish.

 

[DonShula]

Hey conspiracy theorists, here's one unravelling before your eyes! I hope you enjoy it instead of denying it in favor for some other gibberish.

The best argument for the right being racist is that they spent eight years looking for a conspiracy when there was none, and are now breaking their necks to look away from a conspiracy so obvious that our grandchildren will wonder how we could be so stupid.

 

[shnurgleton]

“Did they try to influence our election? We have tried to influence their elections, and everybody’s elections,” Mr. Rohrabacher told The Los Angeles Times in March.

There's that idiotic argument again: We did bad stuff to other countries so it's fine when other countries do bad stuff to us.

 

[mugurumakensei]

The fact that this is all the way back from 2012 also means that this has been going on for a while. I wondered if they wanted to cast a bigger net when finding those colluding or if Russia just snuk in more than they ever expected. Either way, if this is true, VERY solid evidence is going to be needed because this is definitely going to look like a partisan witchhunt if Russia only targeted GOP members.


So hopefully they have even MORE incriminating evidence.

I don't think Russia targeted only GOP. I expect Russia funds the Green Party too to stroke the left.

 

[Funkyhamster]

I was all ready to come into this thread saying that I was getting tired of all the news, and it would be nice to have a few days without a bombshell story...

But after realizing that this story backs up the McCarthy tape insinuations, I changed my mind. I would be okay with a news story suggesting that Paul Ryan is complicit dropping every 15 minutes for the rest of my life.

 

[entremet]

It is pretty crazy. I wonder if there's been a coordination here or if it's concidence

According to my Republican friends on FB t's the lamestream media trying to get Trump impeached under false pretenses lol.

 

[Mercury Fred]

I don't think Russia targeted only GOP. I expect Russia funds the Green Party too to stroke the left.

Or Bernie.

 

[Stinkles]

And did he accept? If so, put him in jail for the rest of his life.

Dana Rohrbacher has been stanning for Putin for years. Loudly, weirdly and publicly.

 

[Heshinsi]

I don't think Russia targeted only GOP. I expect Russia funds the Green Party too to stroke the left.

Didn't the dossier straight up state that they did (give money to the Greens)?

 

[SmokeMaxX]

Or Bernie.

TBH I've long suspected this. Still waiting for confirmation. His subreddit and r/The_Donald operated pretty similarly from an outsiders' perspective.

 

[Zolo]

TBH I've long suspected this. Still waiting for confirmation. His subreddit and r/The_Donald operated pretty similarly from an outsiders' perspective.

I'm pretty sure reports have already said Russians did what they could to use him to help put a wedge and create conflict in Dem voters. No signs of collusion like with Trump though.

 

[Lord_Byron28]

I don't think Russia targeted only GOP. I expect Russia funds the Green Party too to stroke the left.

Aren't there pictures floating around of Jill Stein attending a dinner with Putin in Russia?

 

[Boylamite]

Aren't there pictures floating around of Jill Stein attending a dinner with Putin in Russia?

At the same table with Mike Flynn

 

[Laevateinn]

Aren't there pictures floating around of Jill Stein attending a dinner with Putin in Russia?

Flynn too. Pure coincidence surely!

 

[Paskil]

Fucking lol. I knew this was going to be about Rohrabacher before I opened the thread.

 

[LibrarianGMR]

Ugh, screw this guy. He's my rep and he votes yes on every backward piece of legislation because he's a Trump stooge. Can't wait to vote him out.

 

[BajiBoxer]

I don't think Russia targeted only GOP. I expect Russia funds the Green Party too to stroke the left.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/13/how-putin-played-the-far-left

I don't know about "funds the party", but certainly has influence over Stein. When a so-called social Democrat is buddy buddy with a right wing murderous authoritarian, and refuses to answer questions about her trip to Russia, it's a tad bit suspicious.

 

[Dr.Acula]

Mr. Rohrabacher, for his part, said he was confident that Mr. Trump’s associates had been savvy in their dealings with Russia. “The president has some very astute people around him,” he said. “I can’t imagine someone in a position of power in the United States government not fully appreciating the fact that whoever he’s dealing with who’s a foreigner that he doesn’t know is trying to influence him.”

I'm sure 36-year-old Jared Kushner, and movie producer/blog runner Steve Bannon, who have never worked for the government before this year are totally savvy. Very astute people this Trump has surrounded himself with.

 

[Mr.Shrugglesツ]

Aren't there pictures floating around of Jill Stein attending a dinner with Putin in Russia?

Let me check with killer mike.

 

[Zubz]

... Is this blowing up on major outlets?

Hey conspiracy theorists, here's one unravelling before your eyes! I hope you enjoy it instead of denying it in favor for some other gibberish.

But they can't persecute women or minorities with the real ones!

 

[Burt]

I'm pretty sure reports have already said Russians did what they could to use him to help put a wedge and create conflict in Dem voters. No signs of collusion like with Trump though.

Yeah, Maddow touched on it in conjunction with a piece about the California separatist movement (which I want to say calls itself the New California Republic but that can't be right) opening an embassy in Moscow. I think what it came down to was online pro-Bernie groups that outwardly appeared to be based in places like New Hampshire and Vermont actually being run out of Russia and filled with nothing but bots.

 

[wildfire]

There's certainly smoke around that right now. I initially thought that was just wishing thinking from Dems. But we're getting closer to that being a legitimate prospect.

I've always suspected (maybe even hoped) that Comey stayed silent on the Russia investigation through the election because whatever he was on to was potentially bigger than keeping one corrupt man from the presidency. Widespread GOP corruption on the representative level would probably meet that criteria.

I've been hoping for months that it would be possible to convict Congressmen for not acting sooner on Trump considering the info we already knew. I hope this all pans oout into there existing enough evidence to do this.

 

[Armaros]

Didn't Ryan already come out defending himself saying he was joking? It obviously exists otherwise he wouldn't acknowledge it.

The spokespeople did a instant 180 from 'this is absolutely false' -> 'just a joke, Bren' when reporters mentions that the quotes are from a recording.

 

[Daheza]

https://swingleft.org/district/CA-48


I think it is possible to kick Rohrabacher out of CA48 but it will have to be a very aggressive campaign against him.

You can use the swingleft link above to help / call / show support if you are in the district.

 

[Ryuuroden]

Of course he represents part of Orange Country, CA.

"I'm from a solid blue state, I don't need to vote," says random dumbfuck gaf liberal from orange county California.

Spoiler

not saying there is an actual gaf member but based on that other voting thread,
I would not be surprised

 

[Stinkles]

"I'm from a solid blue state, I don't need to vote," says random dumbfuck gaf liberal from orange county California.

Spoiler

not saying there is an actual gaf member but based on that other voting thread,
I would not be surprised

And the OC turned narrowly blue this last election as voters get younger and more diverse.

 

[Killthee]

I could recruit anyone in Washington I liked too if I had enough money?

What's the going rate now for a GOP official? 50k?

That seems to be the going rate but there's a few you can buy with just a couple of grand.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/betsy-devos-senate-contributions_us_589a12d1e4b040613139a5a4

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Mitt Romney was a doofus and wrong on most everything.

But he was dead on about Russia. Holy shit.

 

[grandjedi6]

The Washington Post and NYTimes are crazy this week. Alternating back and forth, each time with a new major bombshell story.

So much for that "joke" caught on tape.

It is pretty crazy. I wonder if there's been a coordination here or if it's concidence

This is 100% controlled leaks. The moral of the story is "Don't mess with the FBI".

 

[gutter_trash]

Putin doesn't care about Right or Left,

He only cares about Chaos and whatever manipulatable politicians who are anti-NATO, anti-EU, anti-globalist

 

[charsace]

Folks should be executed for this. They are aiding in bringing down our system.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

I really hope the FBI investigation has been including possible links to other politicians.

I want them hanged if they were found to be accepting Russian influence while making American policy.

 

[Mercury Fred]

Folks should be executed for this. They are aiding in bringing down our system.

I'm usually against Capital punishment but I agree 100% on this.

 

[KernelPanic]

"trying" to recruit him? I think they succeeded.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-lawmaker-got-direction-from-moscow-took-it-back-to-dc

Members of the team of Russians who secured a June 2016 Trump Tower meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and Jared Kushner also attempted to stage a show trial of anti-Putin campaigner Bill Browder on Capitol Hill.
The trial, which would have come in the form of a congressional hearing, was scheduled for mid-June 2016 by Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA), a long-standing Russia ally who chairs the House Foreign Affairs Subcommittee on Europe. During the hearing, Rohrabacher had planned to confront Browder with a feature-length pro-Kremlin propaganda movie that viciously attacks him—as well as at least two witnesses linked to the Russian authorities, including lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya.

There's that name again!

The Daily Beast reviewed a copy of a document that was passed to Rohrabacher in Moscow in April 2016. The document, marked ”confidential," was given to Rohrabacher and Behrends. It lays out an alternate reality in which the U.S.—and the rest of the world—has been duped by a fake $230 million scandal that resulted in sanctions being imposed on 44 Russians linked to murder, corruption, or cover-ups.

The document, which was handed over by an official from the Prosecutor General's office to Rohrabacher along with means of viewing the Russian propaganda movie, suggested that U.S. ”political situation may change the current climate" and claimed that it was the ideal moment to foment a challenge to the Western narrative on Putin's kleptocracy. A subcommittee hearing that would re-examine the sanctions placed on Russia, the paper claimed, would be appreciated in Moscow.
”Changing attitudes to the Magnitsky story in the Congress... could have a very favorable response from the Russian side," the document said.
What the U.S. would get in exchange for holding a subcommittee hearing was not laid out in detail. But the document promised to help iron out ”key controversial issues and disagreements with the United States."

Funny bit:

During Royce's hearing, Rohrabacher approvingly compared Donald Trump to Vladimir Putin. The congressman also submitted, for the congressional record, testimony that claimed Russia had not been behind the radioactive poisoning of former FSB officer Alexander Litvinenko in London.

TLDR: Rohrbacher wanted to screen a Russian propaganda movie in an attempt to soften or stop the Magnitsky Act and change attitudes in Congress to Russia/Putin.

 

[TheCochese]

Sweet Jesus that's an update.

 

[DerangedHermit]

Did they get him by promising secrets about that Martian civilization he wanted to know about?

 

[BlueTsunami]

Maybe this was also all about child adoption! The amount of instances of collusion are laughable at this point.

 

[KHarvey16]

The latest (I think it's the latest) Planet Money podcast episode goes into the background of the Magnitsky legislation and Browder. It's quite a story and it's a good foundation for understanding the issue here. If you aren't too upset about it now you probably will be after hearing the details.

 

[Linkura]

"trying" to recruit him? I think they succeeded.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-lawmaker-got-direction-from-moscow-took-it-back-to-dc



There's that name again!



Funny bit:



TLDR: Rohrbacher wanted to screen a Russian propaganda movie in an attempt to soften or stop the Magnitsky Act and change attitudes in Congress to Russia/Putin.

This is so damn bizarre.

 

[Vixdean]

I knew it was Rohrabacher before I even clicked on the thread. Dude has been a Russian stooge for a while now.

 

[outsida]

I for one welcome our future Russian overlords.

 

[AuthenticM]

"trying" to recruit him? I think they succeeded.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/gop-lawmaker-got-direction-from-moscow-took-it-back-to-dc



There's that name again!



Funny bit:



TLDR: Rohrbacher wanted to screen a Russian propaganda movie in an attempt to soften or stop the Magnitsky Act and change attitudes in Congress to Russia/Putin.

dude make a new thread lol

 

[Mr. Poolman]

Please GOP members, raise your hand if you are a traitor.

 

[CHC]

I knew it was Rohrabacher before I even clicked on the thread. Dude has been a Russian stooge for a while now.

Which is genuinely bizarre considering in the 80s he allegedly fought against the Soviets in Afghanistan alongside the mujahideen....?

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2010/04/dana-rohrabacher-afghanistan-war/

 

[Bandini]

Which is genuinely bizarre considering in the 80s he allegedly fought against the Soviets in Afghanistan

Money and power. He could also have been turned if they have dirt on him.

 

[Saganator]

C'mon guys, they were just thinking of the children who have been waiting to be adopted by loving American families!

 

[Shauni]

Did they get him by promising secrets about that Martian civilization he wanted to know about?

Oh my God, that was the same guy!? Lordy.

 

[Greigor The Fellhand]

The Winter Soldiers

 

[Kill Your Masters]

Give him a break guys. Maybe he was new on the job and didn't know treason is bad.