You clearly have some other axe to grind. But you do you.
And Neville has earned the right to find out without being pegged as a mark for himself.
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You clearly have some other axe to grind. But you do you.
And Neville has earned the right to find out without being pegged as a mark for himself.
blackaroni
Member
Don't you normally call that gimmick posting?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
So you don't know what you're mad about but you're mad?
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Typed this before. Erase "I'm sure", it'd have definitely happened. No question, and not sorry for pointing it out
excelsiorlef
Member
Oh Neville is a different story.
I thought we were talking in general.
Neville is akin to Ibushi, ZSJ, Galloway and Cody...
But a lot of other guys are gonna Rybacks, Simon Gotchs and Jack Swaggers.
As Vince slid inside, Triple-HHH gasped. He didn't think Vince would fit in, but somehow he had managed.
For Vince, it was a snug fit, but he let the subsequent warmth envelop him.
"Thanks for letting me borrow your coat, Paul"
RecRoulette
Member
Hold up, THAT Patrice O'Neal was a WWE writer? Huh.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean, sure if it makes you feel better to wildly believe everyone you like would be signed by NJPW if they left WWE then fine but there's no evidence to support it and it's lazy and easy to just call it "defense force" whenever someone doesn't like your pet guy you didn't give a fuck about until they left WWE.
It wouldn't be any less lazy if I called it NJPW Defense Force than if you called it WWE Defense Force when someone suggests they did something right basically ever.
It wouldn't be any less lazy if I called it NJPW Defense Force than if you called it WWE Defense Force when someone suggests they did something right basically ever.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
For like three months yeah. Seems to be the average amount of time people are writers there before they're fired or quit (oops, said the Q word, that's not allowed because workers don't have rights or opinions on work)
Who was that actor from Scooby Doo, Freddy Prinze? He was there too for 3 to 6 months
SallyIsNow
Banned
None of those post were deliberately made to stir shit up.
Gimmickers post bait specifically for those (You)s. And when people stopped biting they stuck to PPV threads on OT.
AndreEyes.GIF
Lol when being one of the best wrestlers in the whole company isn't THAT good enough.
His character work in his last 6 months was absolutely magnificent despite WWE writing.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
What did HHHHHH do next, and how was it actually good for the Independent Contractors eating gruel while the crowd behind the zoo bars ooh and aaw?
Also was it a fur coat? Getting kinda chilly out, wouldn't want the rich to freeze
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
He was good and not great. Let's not get crazy.
at this point, these are the active full-timers that would actually surprise me if they walked out at this point:
reigns/rollins/ambrose (the three golden boys)
orton (golden boy)
aj/nakamura/joe (have done everything there is to do outside of wwe, here to ride it out and make that fuck you money)
stroman
usos
new day
jinder
corbin
owens
charlotte
bliss
that's 18
reigns/rollins/ambrose (the three golden boys)
orton (golden boy)
aj/nakamura/joe (have done everything there is to do outside of wwe, here to ride it out and make that fuck you money)
stroman
usos
new day
jinder
corbin
owens
charlotte
bliss
that's 18
? I'm not the one randomly talking about people jacking it to a 5 years joke or New Japan. I'm talking about Neville possibly, maybe just maybe, being justified in trying to realize the potential he sees in himself.
He was great and not just good. Let's not get so negative about an incredibly talented and passionate guy betting on himself
SallyIsNow
Banned
For sure, I think two separate things are being discussed but they don't always have the same answer. Should someone try to take a bet on themselves if they feel they're being held back? Will they be successful at it?
Neville: yes and yes
Those other guys: yes and no
HE'S AMAZING WHAT AN AWESOME TALENT PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT WWE?
oh he left wwe? oh he wasn't that great
Oh it is tedious as hell wading through the garbage.
SallyIsNow
Banned
More like Mark Anth0ny.
No date yet?
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I mean you're just doing the opposite thing you're accusing me of. I just don't think Neville is a level of talent that Zayn is. Same with Cody.
When Zayn walks out it would be different.
When Zayn walks out it would be different.
half a moon
Banned
I don't either. Neville is mediocre
serenewarfare
Banned
You are way underestimating.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Let's not get crazy. He's great compared to some of the Tall Guys they push. But I don't think he has the natural charisma that some people think he has. It's the same problem with Cody. It's not all in ring ability. Nakamura phones in everything he does but he also oozes charisma out of his pores.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
"Remember how CJ Parker went and did nothing because he's a nobody and nothing? Now get me some juice, poor"
The BFG card doesn't look any better than the TLC one. Especially with...certain matches
Putting behind spoilers because I don't know where the TV stuff is regarding what was taped
The BFG card doesn't look any better than the TLC one. Especially with...certain matches
Putting behind spoilers because I don't know where the TV stuff is regarding what was taped
Grado vs Abyss in a Monster's Ball, where Grado's deported if he loses, instantly comes to mind
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
How many CJ Parkers do you think exist
serenewarfare
Banned
Juice is great. But NJPW ain't hiring five or six Juice Robinsons.
It was a surprise when they hired one.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Zayn is good, but he isn't THAT good. Let's not get crazy here.
As for overestimation of NJPW's interest in former talent, normally I'd agree. But that was until Sami Callihan of all people got the teaser treatment leading to Power Struggle. If they're gonna feature someone like Sami, then all bets are off on who is on their radar.
But yeah I have no delusions about some mass exodus. I'm not even sure Neville wants to slide into the Ricochet-sized void in NJPW. I'm sure he can find a good deal of success in the UK, US super indies, and maybe a featured tour or 2 in Dragon Gate.
But yeah I have no delusions about some mass exodus. I'm not even sure Neville wants to slide into the Ricochet-sized void in NJPW. I'm sure he can find a good deal of success in the UK, US super indies, and maybe a featured tour or 2 in Dragon Gate.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Pikma said some mean stuff about me.
blackaroni
Member
Agreed.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I'm not trying to be a wet blanket I'm saying the sample size is Cody Rhodes and CJ Parker and to a lesser extent Drew Galloway who is back in WWE.
Most people can't realistically walk out. Even from what we've been told Neville wanted to leave to build his brand.
brother, i'm not working up. I'm SHOOTING up!
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Didn't say they would or should, only that faulting someone for attempting to escape a situation that person considers bad prevents that potential for greatness or happiness from ever showing up
Another example: Yeah, Punk sucked at MMA and I never read the comic he always wanted to do and finally got to do. But if he stayed at a job that was clearly making him miserable, he would have never had that chance. And stayed miserable. Who does that benefit, because it certainly isn't him, and I doubt it's his fans. Source: I'm a Punk fan and I sure as shit am glad he tried to make his dreams work and became happier doing so
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Punk also got to do literally everything anyone could want in WWE other than main eventing Mania which only like 2 people a year get to do. He's not a good comparison.
serenewarfare
Banned
NJPW is sometimes interested in guys we don't expect. That much is true. I'm not predicting who they would and wouldn't be interested in. I'm more talking from a numbers perspective. They are pretty much full. Meltzer said so himself. If a bunch of guys leave WWE expecting to get NJPW (or even ROH) paydays, a lot of them are going to be disappointed. The scene just doesn't have the volume of money coming in to support it. Unless all the ex-WWE guys decide to take way less money than normal.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
I don't think even Cody has a full time deal in NJPW.
SallyIsNow
Banned
Stop stalking me and my posts.
excelsiorlef
Member
Also on NJPW their current Young Lions crop is fucking aces... there is soon going to be even less space
It's why I don't get why a few here were saying Neville if he goes to NJPW needs to skip the Junior Heavyweight... there's not room in the Heavyweight and there's gonna be even less soon.
He's full time ROH now.
It's why I don't get why a few here were saying Neville if he goes to NJPW needs to skip the Junior Heavyweight... there's not room in the Heavyweight and there's gonna be even less soon.
He's full time ROH now.
I know where you live
serenewarfare
Banned
I doubt he'd have the choice. They would almost certainly slot him as a junior because of his size. Even Ricochet seems to think so.
excelsiorlef
Member
And he'd do really good there too.
