holygeesus
Banned
So you *have* to do a clean install to change the file structure?
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
OSX High Sierra is now available via the Mac App Store as a free upgrade
- Thread starter Vanillalite
- Start date
Will this do anything to fix the massive amount of "other" taken up in my hard drive? I'm constantly deleting shit. Even delete 10-15 gb of photos and videos and don't import any new ones or download anything and then a week later all that space is filled again by "other". Drives me crazy.
The Real Abed
Perma-Junior
That's strange. Not what I was taught about how SSDs work.
I wouldn't be paranoid though. All drives die. I'd be more paranoid about platter HDDs than a SSD.
I didn't. It converted in place for me.
Isn't there a reason you want to update that justifies the risk of your concerns?
There are big reasons. APFS, apps being faster and less bloated freeing up space. My new Apple Watch cant open my Mac since it says I need High Sierra for some reason.
PhoncipleBone
Banned
Thats weird. I am on Watch os4 but Sierra on my MBP and my series 2 watch still unlocks it. I wouldnt think it being series 2 would make a difference.
My point is you have to weigh the benefits and risks yourself.
(I'm still on El Capitan)
ShinoguTakeruKoeru
Member
Should/Can I install High Sierra onto my "Server" Mac Mini from 2012? The OS on it is the one before Sierra I think, and I've been wary of OS changes out of a fear that it would make the computer sluggish.
Mines a Series 3 if that makes a difference. My old original AW worked with this OS version but my 3 doesnt and when I try to turn on the feature it tells me to update to a new OS version.
Its a pretty weak argument. Sierra already had beta support for the new file system. And iOS migrated to it a generation ago.
May your data remain pure, your file system uncorrupted, and your critical apps compatible. 🙏
Its possibly a security check. Mac OS now checks your firmware to see if it has been compromised.
http://appleinsider.com/articles/17...alerts-users-to-possible-security-issues/amp/
Im not updating until at least a few point updates. Until I know all the apps I use have been proven to run stable and bug free for a few months. If you use any pro apps the advice is to check with all vendors websites first before updating.
I also worry about users of older MBPs. High Sierra seems to be more demanding on the GPU. And the discrete GPUs in older models are prone to hardware failure.
I also worry about users of older MBPs. High Sierra seems to be more demanding on the GPU. And the discrete GPUs in older models are prone to hardware failure.
I dont know if it demands more GPU usage. I think the transition to Metal 2 is supposed to optimize OS-level GLU utilization.
opticalmace
Member
Haven't used it too much but I like it so far. Dunno if placebo but mission control seems smoother.
My time machines took a bit longer to back up, which is understandable.
As much as some of the Apple hardware decisions I'm not a fan of (touch bar, all usb c on the MBP), their software is still really, really nice.
My time machines took a bit longer to back up, which is understandable.
As much as some of the Apple hardware decisions I'm not a fan of (touch bar, all usb c on the MBP), their software is still really, really nice.
Mine is already done! But my ssd is still showing as Mac OS extended?
Do I need to do a clean install for this?
Edit: seems you can do it from disk utility in recovery mode. Oh boy!
Mine is already done! But my ssd is still showing as Mac OS extended?
Do I need to do a clean install for this?
Edit: seems you can do it from disk utility in recovery mode. Oh boy!
Done and everything works perfectly!
31GhostsIV
Banned
No update for me until Native Instruments give the green light sadly.
Frostinferno
Member
Do you have an iPhone backup stored on there? Those can take up a lot of space.
Those of you that are wary about upgrading should use SuperDuper! (free) or Carbon Copy Cloner to create a bootable backup so you can roll back if needed.
I upgraded from HFS+ with FileVault enabled and it automagically converted me to APFS (Encrypted). Do you have a third-party SSD, and if so, what brand?
Whogie
Member
fwiw My 2012 MBP has an aftermarket SSD (Crucial M4), and it got converted automatically during install. One partition. File Vault was on, as well as TrimForce.
No its an "APPLE SSD SM256E" not sure what the deal is. Everything I can find with google is talking about the beta :/
Edit: hmm I think when its in recovery mode its giving me old sierra not High Sierra...
Is it possibly converting in the background? Did it say APFS as soon as it booted?
OK LOL I AM A MORON IT NEVER UPDATED SHIT.
it seems it rebooted for some other update and never even finished downloading high seirra. Wooo its time for bed. :lol
you can set your iPhone 8 to record photos/videos in "compatibility" mode, which is h264 for video and jpeg for photos. (cmiiw)
I know, I wanted to mess around with h.264 vs h.265.
opticalmace
Member
given that my macbook only has 128gb of storage, i can very easily offload all of the essential stuff into one of my various cloud services
* my email's on gmail servers
* my photos are in iCloud (up to 50gig, €0.99)
* my documents folder is in my dropbox (up to 10 gig, free)
* my music library is on spotify
Just a few months ago, i was able to reformat my SSD on a whim without no prior backing up.
I use time machine solely for the "fuck, did i delete that?!" recovery of individual files
jts
...hate me...
I've used Time Machine but I don't have a setup anymore where it's convenient to plug an external hard drive regularly. I use my Macbook anywhere around the house and when I want to backup I have to look for the external HDD, plug it in and set the whole thing stable while it does its thing. It's boring.
Soon I'll probably have to take the 2TB iCloud plan and there's more than enough room in that to backup my Mac to. It would be extremely convenient.
Quite a few routers these days let you plug a USB drive into them and share them over your WiFi network so you don't have to manually plug your drive up to your MacBook, you just back up wirelessly. If you have a desktop computer you can also probably use that as a Time Machine server. NAS drives are also an option.
opticalmace
Member
jts
...hate me...
My router lets me plug a USB drive, but I don't think it supports Time Machine. Don't have a desktop and really don't want to buy and keep dedicated equipment for that task - I feel like it's something on the way out because of cloud services and it's also not that important already because of them (as Fliesen said). Mail hasn't been an issue in years. Photos, notes, documents, are all backed up. As is Keychain. What's missing it's mostly general settings and non-App Store apps, just for convenience.
I just feel like we already have good enough storage tiers in iCloud that Apple could turn on iCloud Backup for the Mac for those wanting it. It's caught up and it's due. 200GB costs $3 a month and some Macs are still sold with 128GB of storage. Maybe by macOS 10.14.
But, not a big deal. When I have a bit of patience I will do a backup just in case before updating to High Sierra, and then move on without caring much about it.
my ASUS AC68U offers this kind of "fake time capsule" feature, though it's not entirely reliable. Like every 3 months the backup seems to become corrupted and it tells me i need to make a new backup from scratch, losing my previous backup.
Which i don't mind, personally. But which could be a dealbreaker for those who want their backups to be reliable and permanent.
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
All I really care about in MacOS updates is the ability to turn the startup chime OFF permanently. No app or terminal command fuckery has been successful in this regard.
I guess that did not change this time ?
I guess that did not change this time ?
uncleniccius
Member
Chrome appears to be freezing more and it keeps going to my password screen randomly.. not great so far.
DarkLinkage
Member
Can anyone provide experiences with xCode after this update?
I am using my brother's MacBook Pro from 2011 (I think) to write an app for an internship program. After upgrading to the xCode 9, the storyboard has been ridiculously slow. I was wondering if the update would help in any way.
This laptop doesn't have an SSD by the way.
I am using my brother's MacBook Pro from 2011 (I think) to write an app for an internship program. After upgrading to the xCode 9, the storyboard has been ridiculously slow. I was wondering if the update would help in any way.
This laptop doesn't have an SSD by the way.
Memento_Mori15
Member
I used it at work today and it seems fine to me(tested on a MacBook Pro and Mac Pro). Then again, I dont use storyboard and just code the views. Ive never bothered with it since its slow and to do more complex views, its best just to code it imo.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
After 2 hours on the phone with the Apple help people (who were very helpful), fixed the MacBook, but I had to delete the whole thing, disc utility or whatever all my data and make a new user account, then reinstall OSX Sierra, since everything we did before that just brought us back round to the password reset screen, and terminal stuff didn't work either.
Hope this is a good update!
Hope this is a good update!
your machine wasn't broken, you were just locked out of your strongly encrypted files.
We could've told you, you could just erase your entire hard drive's content and start from scratch.
edit: turns out, in that thread of yours, noone actually did. woops. It was obvious that erasing your entire drive would 'solve' your problem in the worst kind of way
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
your machine wasn't broken, you were just locked out of your strongly encrypted files.
We could've told you, you could just erase your entire hard drive's content and start from scratch.
edit: turns out, in that thread of yours, noone actually did. woops. It was obvious that erasing your entire drive would 'solve' your problem in the worst kind of way
Well I made sure to turn FileVault off when I did set up this time
RedAssedApe
Banned
High Sierra/iMessage/Gtalk error makes no sense. Friend sends me IM from gtalk. I try and reply and get this:
Then why'd you let the message get to me? Like a ghost in the system.
Then why'd you let the message get to me? Like a ghost in the system.
Similar threads
- Poll