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PAL Charts - Week 8, 2012

What does Sony Online Entertainment have to do with anything?

SCEE ;) probably won't push Gravity Rush hard given it's a PSN title in EU. After the amazing debut of HSG that's maybe for the best.

...Derp :X I always get those two mixed up, and I forgot GR is a PSN title so we really won't know how it'll do unless Sony gives us numbers.
 
Probably not. You can tell what the absolute minimum is because the only way you can rate games on PSN is if you buy them on PSN.

So Rayman Origins in the US has sold at least a 1000 copies on the Vita (because it's got about 1k ratings). There isn't really any way to tell how many people actually rate the stuff they buy though. But either way that seems like a lot since its Rayman Origins.

For Vita games, if it has a demo, then that's not true because the demo and game are tied together, so if you just download the demo then you can rate the game. At least that's what it looks like on the PS3 storefront.
 
As we learn every gen, "coming off" means very little.

For launch week sales? Your hardcore fanbase is usually going to buy as many units as you ship the first week/month. Sustaining sales beyond that point then requires the right mix of software and pricing.
 
So about 66k pieces of Vita software combined? Makes me wonder what the hardware was like...
I'll discuss these two simultaniously.
Curious about UK attitudes towards digital distribution - would there be a (significant) proportion of hardware buyers that bought no physical software?
There is a siginficant number that bought no software at all. As in bought to try to profiteer off on it selling out (whats this now, the third time this has not happened since the Wii?).

In any case the 3DS attach rate also appeared to be way less than 1 for quite a while so I would be most surprised if a more digitally focused platform ended up with a higher attach rate on physical items.

Italy:
01. Just Dance 3 (Wii, Ubisoft)
02. Uncharted 3: L'Inganno di Drake (PS3, Sony)
03. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (PS3, Activision)
04. Kirby's Adventure (Wii, Nintendo)
05. FIFA 12 (PS3, EA)
06. Mario Kart 7 (3DS, Nintendo)
07. Wii Play Motion + Wii Remote Plus (Wii, Nintendo)
08. Super Mario 3D Land (3DS, Nintendo)
09. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (X360, Activision)
10. New Super Mario Bros. (Wii, Nintendo)
What the? A Kirby game actually charting somewhere in Europe.
 
From what i've seen, they shipped around 230k PS3s in the UK. And even with price reduction, the RRP was £425, so its pricetag was still very high. The UK PS3 launch was definitely strong concidering the price :)

PS3 had a great launch but it was more to do with great stock than anything else, it didn't really sell out anywhere unlike almost every other system launch.

Had Wii, Xbox 360 and the others had supply like PS3 had at launch then they could've been near PS3 in terms of launch sales in the UK.
 

Rolf NB

Member
One down, one to go. Mass Effect 3 will put up a bigger fight, unfortunately.
Mass Effect 3 will sell gangbusters anyway. There's just no way around it with the marketing push it has been given. You couldn't go anywhere on the internet in the past three months and not have ME3 hype forced down your throat. Quality won't factor into this one at all.
 

test_account

XP-39C²
PS3 had a great launch but it was more to do with great stock than anything else, it didn't really sell out anywhere unlike almost every other system launch.

Had Wii, Xbox 360 and the others had supply like PS3 had at launch then they could've been near PS3 in terms of launch sales in the UK.
That could be, but it is also the combination of the high pricetag that makes 165k very good in my opinion :)
 

AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
For launch week sales? Your hardcore fanbase is usually going to buy as many units as you ship the first week/month. Sustaining sales beyond that point then requires the right mix of software and pricing.

Ya, I was thinking more long term.

BTW why are people still trying to extrapolate system sales based on game sales for a DD heavy console?
 

BKK

Member
Ireland:
Week 8, 2012 - Entertainment Software (All Prices)

01 (NE) Uncharted: Golden Abyss (Sony Computer Ent.)
02 (01) Ufc Undisputed 3 (Thq)
03 (NE) Fifa Football (Electronic Arts)
04 (02) Fifa 12 (Electronic Arts)
05 (05) Mario & Sonic London 2012 Olympic Games (Sega)
06 (04) Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (Activision Blizzard)
07 (03) Battlefield 3 (Electronic Arts)
08 (12) Zumba Fitness (505 Games)
09 (07) Just Dance 3 (Ubisoft)
10 (09) The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim (Bethesda Softworks)
11 (16) Super Mario 3d Land (Nintendo)
12 (NE) Syndicate (Electronic Arts)
13 (NE) Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition (Bethesda Softworks)
14 (NE) Wipeout 2048 (Sony Computer Ent.)
15 (20) Lego Pirates Of The Caribbean (Disney Interactive Studios)
16 (17) Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo)
17 (RE) Deus Ex: Human Revolution (Square Enix Europe)
18 (RE) Rayman Origins (Ubisoft)
19 (13) Saints Row: The Third (Thq)
20 (NE) The Jak And Daxter Trilogy (Sony Computer Ent.)
 

noobie

Banned
Playstation Vita registered a total sales of 150 units on launch day, including pre-orders.

Flanco estimates sales of more than 4,000 PlayStation Vita until the end of this year, registering after the launch day a total sales of 150 units, including pre-orders. The retailer had a pre-orders campaign a few days before the big releases of February 22, 2012, receiving over 100 requests from customers. According to Flanco representatives PlayStation Vita model with 3G and WiFi connectivity generated over 60 percent of sales of the new game console. PlayStation Vita 3G/WiFi is available at a price of RON 1,449, while the PlayStation Vita WiFi can be purchased at the price of RON 1129 in the Flanco network. PlayStation (PS3, PS2, PS and PSP VITA) is over 60 percent of console sales in stores Flanco, according to retailer. Meanwhile, PlayStation games and accessories account for 65 percent of sales in these product categories in Flanco network.

Flanco expects sales of more than 4,000 PlayStation Vita in Romania in 2012

:D
 

Bruno MB

Member
TOP 10 NINTENDO 3DS (FULL PRICE), WEEK ENDING 25 February 2012

01 (01) [3DS] Super Mario 3d Land (Nintendo)
02 (01) [3DS] Mario & Sonic London 2012 Olympic Games (Sega)
03 (03) [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo)
04 (04) [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: Golden Retriever (Nintendo)
05 (05) [3DS] Sonic Generations (Sega)
06 (06) [3DS] Super Pokémon Rumble (Nintendo)
07 (07) [3DS] Resident Evil: Revelations (Capcom)
08 (08) [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D (Nintendo)
09 (09) [3DS] Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure (Activision Blizzard)
10 (10) [3DS] Rayman 3D (Ubisoft)

I didn't expect Super Mario 3d Land to show a similar (if not slightly better) performance to Mario Kart 7. Resident Evil: Revelations sales are really pitiful. It's been almost a year since Rayman 3D was released and we still can see it charting on a weekly basis. I wonder how well Rayman Origins will do.
 
Re: Vita sales:

http://www.pocketgamer.biz/r/PG.Biz/PlayStation+Vita/news.asp?c=38346

Week one Chart-Track figures reveal that Sony's new handheld device sold "around one quarter" of the number of the 185,000 PSP units shifted in the UK during its first week on sale back in September 2005.

...

Although exact data has not been publicly announced by either Chart-Track or Sony, industry sources have confirmed that the figure is "just over half" of the 89,000 sold by the Nintendo 3DS in its first week almost a year ago.

I have no idea how this doesn't contradict Patrick Garratt calling Vita week-one UK sales "strong" and "comparable to 3DS," so I'll take both with a grain of salt for now.
 

BKK

Member
Awful debut for Vita software in German chart. Uncharted PS3 #1 with Uncharted PSV not even in Top100? I'd have thought it was an error if Uncharted PS3 hadn't been #1 the previous week too.

Edit: It was an error.
 

iceatcs

Junior Member
Not bad debut for German. It could have worse like not Vita game on top 20 or 40.

It could be UC3 mistook count UC Vita sale as well.
 

BKK

Member
Gamesmarkt just say Q1 2012 for Syndicate, and Amazon.de only have the PEGI version, so I don't think it has been released in Germany yet. It hasn't been "banned" has it?
 

BKK

Member
Sweden:
Week 8, 2012

01 (01) [PC] World Of Warcraft Game Card (60-day Pre Paid Gamecard) (Activision Blizzard)
02 (11) [PS3] Fifa 12 (Electronic Arts)
03 (05) [PC] Battlefield 3 (Electronic Arts)
04 (06) [PS3] Battlefield 3 (Electronic Arts)
05 (08) [360] Battlefield 3 (Electronic Arts)
06 (RE) [PS2] Singstar (incl Mics) (Sony Computer Ent.)
07 (NE) [PSV] Uncharted Golden Abyss (Scee)
08 (RE) [360] Fifa 12 (Electronic Arts)
09 (RE) [PC] Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 3 ((Activision Blizzard)
10 (12) [PS3] Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 3 (Activision Blizzard)
11 (NE) [PSV] Rayman Origins (Ubisoft)
12 (RE) [WII] Skylanders Spyro's Adventure Starter Pack (Activision Blizzard)
13 (09) [PSN] Playstation Network Voucher 200 Sek (Sony Computer Ent.)
14 (RE) [360] Dance Central (kinect) (Microsoft)
15 (15) [PS3] Uncharted 3 Drake´s Deception (Scee)
16 (02) [PS3] Ufc Undisputed 3 Limited Edition (Namco Bandai Games)
17 (14) [PS3] Nhl 12 (Electronic Arts)
18 (10) [XBL] Live 3 Month Card (Microsoft)
19 (07) [3DS] Super Mario 3d Land (Nintendo)
20 (RE) [360] Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 3 (Activision Blizzard)
 
Not bad debut for German. It could have worse like not Vita game on top 20 or 40.

It could be UC3 mistook count UC Vita sale as well.

Uncharted: Golden Abyss is Nr. 1 in Games > PlayStation Vita > Games

at amazon germany. there must be an error in that chart.
 

BKK

Member
http://www.mediabiz.de/games/news/spielemarkt-2011-extrawurst-deutschland/316335

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Google Translate:

Games market in 2011: Germany Extrawurst

With a fall of only one percent of Germany comes unscathed from the crisis in the international games industry. But otherwise eagerly at the image of the nerd getting creative.

Especially in handheld / mobile sector of the games sales fell back in Germany 2011 (Source: BIU) Enlarge
Especially in handheld / mobile sector of the games sales fell back in Germany 2011 (Source: BIU)
Germany has always been different, at least as a game country. The German penchant for gamers building strategy title, and business simulations on the PC is an international legend, the German predilection for young guards notorious green blood. And obviously, the German gaming market still retains some characteristics, even if it's been some assimilation.

At least the market for several years, disconnected from the international scene. And while the bad as in good. For example, Germany in 2008 was not, for example, participates in the same degree as other countries in the towering Nintendo comeback (in the U.S. alone at the time of the industry revenues grew by 43 percent to almost 18 billion dollars). On the other hand, remains the local market, the hangover after the Nintendo sauce saves. For while in the U.S. and Japan markets in each of eight percent, in the UK shrank by 13 percent, the Federal Association of Interactive Entertainment Software (BIU) for 2011 and identify a relatively stable market development.

1.57 billion euros last year were therefore treated with the sale of PC, console and handheld and mobile games. "In the area of ​​sales of disks and downloads, we are in a slight decrease of one percent," assigns BIU MD Dr. Maximilian Schenk data. These are based, as in the previous year on a survey of 25,000 consumers by GfK. The advantage of the survey by the so-called "consumer panel" is that content can be queried and games that are not sold through retailers. "In short, the numbers appear on the sales of online and browser games, including virtual additional content that round out the picture of the overall market and hope for a better end of the year can be" is, Schenk deeper insights into the market prospect.

Such insights are an international comparison by the way just as unusual as the little minus. The flip side of that market transparency is that the data on the German market for games is not located in the subject economic journalists are anything but convenience food. But homemade tastes best anyway.

Graphic (sourced from BIU) units don't match this ...

Original German for those interested;

Spielemarkt 2011: Extrawurst Deutschland

Mit einem Minus von nur einem Prozent kommt Deutschland glimpflich aus dem Krisenjahr der internationalen Spielebranche. Doch auch sonst wird eifrig am Image des Sonderlings gebastelt.

Vor allem in Handheld/Mobile-Sektor ging der Games-Umsatz in Deutschland 2011 zurück (Quelle: BIU) Großansicht
Vor allem in Handheld/Mobile-Sektor ging der Games-Umsatz in Deutschland 2011 zurück (Quelle: BIU)
Deutschland war schon immer anders, zumindest als Spieleland. Die Vorliebe deutscher Gamer für Aufbaustrategietitel und Wirtschaftssimulationen am PC ist international Legende, die Vorliebe deutscher Jugendschützer für grünes Blut berüchtigt. Und ganz offenbar hat sich der deutsche Spielemarkt bis heute einige Eigenheiten bewahrt, auch wenn es zu einer gewissen Assimilation gekommen ist.

Zumindest ist die Marktentwicklung seit einigen Jahren abgekoppelt vom internationalen Geschehen. Und zwar im Schlechten wie im Guten. So hatte Deutschland 2008 beispielsweise nicht im gleichen Maß wie andere Länder am alles überragenden Nintendo-Comeback partizipiert (allein in den USA wuchs damals der Branchenumsatz um 43 Prozent auf fast 18 Mrd. Dollar). Auf der anderen Seite bleibt dem hiesigen Markt auch die Katerstimmung nach der Nintendo-Sause erspart. Denn während in den USA und Japan die Märkte jeweils um acht Prozent, in UK sogar um 13 Prozent schrumpften, kann der Bundesverband Interaktive Unterhaltungssoftware (BIU) auch für 2011 eine vergleichsweise stabile Marktentwicklung ausweisen.

1,57 Mrd. Euro wurden demnach im vergangenen Jahr mit dem Verkauf von PC-, Konsolen- sowie Handheld- und Handyspielen umgesetzt. "Im Bereich der Umsätze mit Datenträgern und Downloads liegen wir bei einem leichten Minus von einem Prozent", ordnet BIU-Geschäftsführer Dr. Maximilian Schenk die Daten ein. Diese basieren wie im Vorjahr auf der Befragung von 25.000 Konsumenten durch die GfK. Der Vorteil der Erhebung durch das sogenannte "Consumer-Panel" besteht darin, dass auch Gamesinhalte abgefragt werden können, die nicht über den Handel vertrieben werden. "In Kürze erscheinen auch die Zahlen zu den Umsätzen mit Online- und Browsergames, inklusive virtueller Zusatzinhalte, die das Bild des Gesamtmarkts abrunden und auf einen noch besseren Abschluss des Jahres hoffen lassen", stellt Schenk tiefere Markteinblicke in Aussicht.

Solche Einblicke sind im internationalen Vergleich übrigens genauso ungewöhnlich wie das geringe Minus. Die Kehrseite dieser Markttransparenz ist, dass die Daten zum deutschen Spielemarkt für nicht im Thema befindliche Wirtschaftsjournalisten alles andere als Convenience Food sind. Aber selbst gemacht schmeckt ja ohnehin am besten.
 

BKK

Member
Finland:
Week 8, 2012

01 (01) [PC] Angry Birds Seasons (Others)
02 (07) [PSN] Playstation Network Card 20 Eur (Sony Computer Ent.)
03 (06) [PS3] Battlefield 3 (Electronic Arts)
04 (05) [PC] World Of Warcraft Pre-paid Game Card 60 Days (Activision Blizzard)
05 (10) [PS3] Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (Activision Blizzard)
06 (08) [PS3] Nhl 12 (Electronic Arts)
07 (RE) [PS3] Rage Anarchy Edition (Bethesda Softworks)
08 (16) [PS3] Uncharted 3 Drake´s Deception (Scee)
09 (NE) [PSV] Uncharted: Golden Abyss (Scee)
10 (03) [PS3] Ufc Undisputed 3 : Limited Edition (amco Bandai Games)
11 (11) [PC] Battlefield 3 (Electronic Arts)
12 (18) [PS3] Fifa 12 (Electronic Arts)
13 (RE) [360] Rage Anarchy Edition (Bethesda Softworks)
14 (NE) [360] Syndicate (Electronic Arts)
15 (RE) [PC] Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (Activision Blizzard)
16 (RE) [XBL] Xbox 360 Live 3 Months Gold (Microsoft)
17 (14) [PC] Angry Birds Classic (Others)
18 (NE) [PS3] Syndicate (Electronic Arts)
19 (RE) [WII] Mario & Sonic At The London 2012 Olympic Games (Sega)
20 (RE) [PS3] Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2: Platinum (Activision Blizzard)
 

Guenther

Member
German charts - incl. Uncharted for PS Vita:

1." Uncharted: Golden Abyss" - PS Vita (NEW)
2."Uncharted 3 - Drake's Deception "- PS3 (1)
3."FIFA 12 " - PS3 (4)
4." The Last Story" - Wii (NEW)
5."Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 3" - PS3 (3)
6."FIFA Football" - PS Vita (NEW)
7."Battlefield 3" - PC (10)
8."Bau-Simulator 2012 " - PC (NEW)
9."Rayman Origins " - PS Vita (NEW)
10."Battlefield 3" - PS3 (18)

http://www.mediabiz.de/games/news/c...408?NL=gmd&uid=38333&ausg=20120301&lpos=Anr_1
 

John Dunbar

correct about everything
With a fall of only one percent of Germany comes unscathed from the crisis in the international games industry. But otherwise eagerly at the image of the nerd getting creative.

makes sense.
 
There is definitely something wrong with the German chart. There is literally no way GA wouldn't make the Top 100.
Either way, that's a pretty weak debut for the Vita.

/edit/ Oh, so it was an error.
 
If you look at the graphs above you can see that Germany's software market is shrinking too. Though quite how much in comparison to the UK I could not say.

Anyone have the UK's GBP / EUR values for 2011?
 
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